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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Rubber Side Down! >> Anyone done a model A tail light? /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1261514232 Message started by Biddie on 12/22/09 at 12:37:11 |
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Title: Anyone done a model A tail light? Post by Biddie on 12/22/09 at 12:37:11 I am in the process of bobbing and can not figure out how to wire my model A taillight/tag light combo. The light has two single filament bulbs with only one wire coming from each. one is supposed to constantly burn as a tag light and the other should light with I depress the brake. Have any of y'all done this with success? The first pic is the taillight/tag combo. Also included are picture of the bobber conversion. http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2009/12/22/bikepics-1859462-full.jpg http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2009/12/22/bikepics-1859460-full.jpg |
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Title: Re: Anyone done a model A taillihght? Post by Biddie on 12/22/09 at 12:38:36 I don't know why the pics are so big. The green wire goes to the top light and the black goes to the bottom. |
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Title: Re: Anyone done a model A tail light? Post by Serowbot on 12/22/09 at 13:55:12 Green = brake black = tail ground is through the housing,... must bolt to grounded metal... on bike... white w/black tracer = brake brown = tail black w/white tracer = ground and attaches to nothing... |
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Title: Re: Anyone done a model A tail light? Post by marine5317 on 12/22/09 at 17:01:35 If that's a real mod. A tail light it is 6v. I think everything went to 12v in 1955. You will need 1156 single or 1157 duel bulbs. Ride Safe Marine5317 |
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Title: Re: Anyone done a model A tail light? Post by Serowbot on 12/22/09 at 17:25:38 7C65606B7E65613F3F3B3D380C0 wrote:
It's not,.. look at the connectors... |
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Title: Re: Anyone done a model A tail light? Post by Paladin. on 12/22/09 at 18:23:06 4751465B43565B40340 wrote:
ALMOST right. Green wire, brake, ties to the bike's white/black. Black wire, tail, ties to bike's brown wire. The bike's black/white tracer, ground, attaches to the lamp housing, mounting screw, etc.. Because of the swingarm/fender/whatever being bolted but not strapped, getting a chassis ground for the taillight is not reliable. Connecting the Black/White ground wire insures a reliable ground connection to the taillight. Faulty grounds are *not* fun to troubleshoot. |
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Title: Re: Anyone done a model A tail light? Post by Serowbot on 12/22/09 at 22:42:15 Quote:
The majority of my electrical troubleshooting involves chasing the flames..... better go with Paladin's advice... :-? |
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Title: Re: Anyone done a model A tail light? Post by Biddie on 12/26/09 at 12:15:43 I have tried Paladin's. However; only the top light comes on and nothing happens when I depress the brake. But I also noticed that if I switch green&white/black&brown the other light comes on. The brake still does nothing. Also if the whole thing is off the bike none of the above applies, both lights come on but are dim. The brake does nothing, while the whole thing id off the bike. I have never claimed to be an electrician and this why. |
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Title: Re: Anyone done a model A tail light? Post by Paladin. on 12/26/09 at 15:06:34 OK, lets restart from square one. Obtain 12 volt source, I like to use a car battery charger as it has handy clips on it. Clip one side to the lamp housing. Touch the second clip to a wire, a lamp should light. Touch the second clip to the other wire, the other lamp should light. If this happens, the tail light is good. On to the bike. The black-white tracer is supposed to be ground. Attach to the lamp housing. Ignition on, touch brown bike wire to one of the lamp wires, one lamp should light. Touch to the other wire, the other lamp shoudl light. Leave brownb wire connected to the tail light. The bike's White-black tracer attaches to the not taillight wire to the lamp -- the brake light should now work. |
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Title: Re: Anyone done a model A tail light? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/26/09 at 16:33:36 You might want to have a look at the brake light switch. The rear one can get outta whack. They sometimes lose the spring that pulls the switch. |
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Title: Re: Anyone done a model A tail light? Post by Biddie on 12/28/09 at 11:39:02 Paladin I tried everything you said, but it just results in a blown fuse when I depress the brake. Also another quirky thing is instead of it being the brown wire that makes the light come on it is the white/black tracer. On a good note though I can hook up LED running lights to the old taillight wires. |
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Title: Re: Anyone done a model A tail light? Post by verslagen1 on 12/28/09 at 12:14:43 4751465B43565B40340 wrote:
white w/black tracer = brake [light] brown = tail [tag light] black w/white tracer = ground and attaches to [the mounting bolt of the tail light.] If you're still blowing fuses, check the wattage of the lights, and of course check for shorts. |
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Title: Re: Anyone done a model A tail light? Post by Biddie on 12/28/09 at 14:44:39 Bulbs are 12v23w. |
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Title: Re: Anyone done a model A tail light? Post by verslagen1 on 12/28/09 at 14:52:46 If both bulbs are 2 amp (23watts/12volts=amperage), that might be the problem. Tag light should be less. |
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Title: Re: Anyone done a model A tail light? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/29/09 at 08:29:01 716275746B6660626936070 wrote:
white w/black tracer = brake [light] brown = tail [tag light] black w/white tracer = ground and attaches to [the mounting bolt of the tail light.] If you're still blowing fuses, check the wattage of the lights, and of course check for shorts.[/quote] If theres a short, shouldnt it pop the fuse even with no bulb installed? |
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Title: Re: Anyone done a model A tail light? Post by Biddie on 12/29/09 at 16:16:12 They are the same bulbs. How much less should the tail light be? |
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Title: Re: Anyone done a model A tail light? Post by verslagen1 on 12/29/09 at 16:36:25 half the other I think |
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Title: Re: Anyone done a model A tail light? Post by Biddie on 01/04/10 at 10:30:17 Can anyone with a stock tail light tell me: how many bulbs there are, the watt/amps of said bulbs, and which wires go to previously aforementioned bulbs. Clymer says two bulbs on a '96 but not watts/amps nor which wire goes to which bulb. please and thank you. |
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Title: Re: Anyone done a model A tail light? Post by Serowbot on 01/04/10 at 10:55:03 one bulb, 1157 dual filament BULB 12V21/5W in tail light one 8w bulb for license plate http://fiche.ronayers.com/Index.cfm/Module/Main/TypeID/26/Type/Motorcycle/MakeID/2/Make/Suzuki/YearID/38/Year/1997/ModelID/6345/Model/LS650P_SAVAGE/GroupID/261323/Group/REAR_COMBINATION_LAMP |
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Title: Re: Anyone done a model A tail light? Post by Biddie on 01/17/10 at 09:15:00 Finally got it to work. Paladin was right but I had to isolate the housing from the mount with some PVC bolts. I'll post pics later. |
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