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Message started by HappyHighwayman on 12/04/09 at 22:45:37

Title: Proper warm-up methodology?
Post by HappyHighwayman on 12/04/09 at 22:45:37

So I recently had some issues with my spark plug being "fouled", and I think I might have done it letting it warm up too long with the choke out.

What is the most recommended method for starting a cold Savage? I've been pulling the choke, starting it, and letting it warm up for 2-3 minutes. Then I push the choke in a little more to idle faster and then push it all the way.

I think my method is wrong, and I'd like to hear the proper method, including how to know when the bike is sufficiently warm, and how long I should let it idle.

Title: Re: Proper warm-up methodology?
Post by EJID on 12/04/09 at 22:49:21

I don't know about being "proper," but I usually
pull the choke all the way, get it started,
after 10-15 seconds put it on 1/2 choke,
finish putting on my helmet & gloves then ride off for the first block or two,
then I reach down and push it in the rest of the way.

Seems to work for me... ;D

Title: Re: Proper warm-up methodology?
Post by thumperclone on 12/05/09 at 00:49:33

my 06 "tells me when to push the choke 1/2 in then all the way in by the sound of the thump thump thump as it gets slower i push the choke in..
doesnt fully have a warm throat for wot till she idles at 1.1 K sometimes i have the choke all the way in and have to put a twig between the throttle lever and the idle screw as i finish dressing specially this time of year was 6F this mornin..toy run at 9am thakfully the wifey got my long johns clean!!!

Title: Re: Proper warm-up methodology?
Post by Paladin. on 12/05/09 at 06:25:43

If I want to keep the loud MAC muffler I'm not allowed to sit outside the house idling at 6:40 am. Fortunately, here in So.Cal., I rarely need to pull out the enricher knob. (it adds fuel, it doesn't choke off the air supply) For over half of the mornings in the past five years I have simply fired up and gently rode off within a second or two.

I'm from the school of "whatever works!"

Title: Re: Proper warm-up methodology?
Post by Serowbot on 12/05/09 at 08:56:07

Me too,... If you think you're fouling it out,... try less... ;)

Too many variables to have a standard....

Title: Re: Proper warm-up methodology?
Post by jabman on 12/05/09 at 09:58:44

i use the lowest choke for starting and idling for 1 min then no choke untill the head fins are warm to the hand

Title: Re: Proper warm-up methodology?
Post by Yonuh Adisi on 12/05/09 at 16:26:16

I usually don't use the choke/enricher, I usually fire it up and turn the idle screw up a bit until I have a smooth idle and let it warm up. When the rpms start getting faster I then turn the idle screw back down and then take off.

Like Paladin, I am from the "Whatever works school"

Title: Re: Proper warm-up methodology?
Post by John_D on 12/09/09 at 01:45:24

I usually give it 1/2 choke, unless it's real cold, then go all the way (like I expect it to be this afternoon, probably won't get above freezing :P). When it warms up a little the idle sounds rougher, so I go in a notch, until it's warm enough to idle with no choke. I'll bump up the idle a little if it sounds too low, and back it down again later, since it's easy to get to. And go easy on it until I'm sure it's warmed up fully.

Title: Re: Proper warm-up methodology?
Post by Rocco on 12/09/09 at 21:13:07

i usually go half choke, ride for a little then push it in. no more then a couple of minutes.

i used to adjust my idle screw, but it would loosen so i'd stall alot. i put some threadlock and now i idle a little fast when warm. i heard that was no biggie though.

she'll tell u when she's warm, listen and she will talk lol

shhh hear that????? lol me neither

Title: Re: Proper warm-up methodology?
Post by matt on 12/14/09 at 11:29:35

probily depends on configuration and location.

i start mine let her site for a minute or two and im off.

When im fully "enriched" she dies likes its way to rich, even half choke makes it stumble a little bit.. maybe my supertrapp needs some adjusting... from central florida area

Title: Re: Proper warm-up methodology?
Post by Digger on 01/02/10 at 21:06:31

I think it is generally good practice to use as little choke for as short of a time as the bike can stand and still start/run.

If you think it is idling too low after you shut off the choke, just blip the throttle a bit every now and again to get some fresh oil into the top end. Either that or just hold the throttle open a bit to increase the idle speed.

JMHO.

Title: Re: Proper warm-up methodology?
Post by savagejoe on 01/03/10 at 01:20:32

I usually pull the choke all the way to get it going then just turn the throttle screw up until it gets warm enough to drive.

Title: Re: Proper warm-up methodology?
Post by mpescatori on 01/04/10 at 04:03:21

The issue is not only "starting" but also "fouling the plug".

There are only 3 sure ways of avoinding to fould the plug, that I know of :

1) a 3 - 4 electrode plug (but, do they make one in the Savage's size and temperature grading ?)

2) EFI (whoch means ripping the basics out of the savage)

3) Ballast load resistor on the ciol (essentially, using a 6V coil with a ballast load resistor which will be "bridged' during startup, it will double the voltage load on the coil but only for a few seconds, awsome spark as long as the engine is cranking)

The 1st system is my preferred method, but I can't find a 3-4 electrode plug in our size.

Title: Re: Proper warm-up methodology?
Post by Trippah on 01/04/10 at 09:48:02

I ususally pull the choke all the way out while I put on my helmet, then put it half way when start riding,,if it runs ok, usually all the way i n by the time i leave town@2-5 minutes.