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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Rubber Side Down! >> Everstart battery /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1256960751 Message started by Jay on 10/30/09 at 20:45:50 |
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Title: Everstart battery Post by Jay on 10/30/09 at 20:45:50 OK, I know Big Crank is great, but eventually every battery dies. Looking at the Everstarts at my local WallyWorld, I see that the Savage isn't listed. Do any of you have experience with Everstart in a Savage? I'm not looking to use it as a everyday battery, but it would be nice to know that in the event of a battery failure, I can just run up to my local 24 hour WalMart, slap an Everstart in it, and get back on the road. Thanks. |
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Title: Re: Everstart battery Post by superdave on 10/31/09 at 00:25:00 I have looked for a battery for my S40 in many stores that carry batteries. I have not found it in stock even once. Of course, you can have it ordered, but that won't help on the day that it dies on you. When my '06 hits the 7500 mile checkup point (probably next year), I am thinking of having the local dealer replace the factory battery with a new one while it is in the shop getting its oil and filter changed. Getting four years out of a motorcycle battery is about all you can expect anyway, right? My son's sport bike battery wouldn't even last that long. What do you all think? |
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Title: Re: Everstart battery Post by bill67 on 10/31/09 at 02:00:57 I would buy the stock battery |
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Title: Re: Everstart battery Post by Routy on 10/31/09 at 05:47:25 Everstart starting batteries are made by any one of the 3 major batt MFGs, Johnson controls, Us Battery, and Excide. I have 2 everstarts, one as a starting battery in my RV, the other in my pickup. One is 4 yrs old, both are giving good normal service. I would be surprised if they didn't have one that would fit the s-40. My comment on the longivity of MC batteries is the same as car batteries, ....if they are kept watered, fully charged, preferably on a float charger thru the winter, they have been known to last much longer than 4 yrs. |
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Title: Re: Everstart battery Post by rigidchop on 10/31/09 at 06:46:39 the battery i replaced with a big crank was an everstart. as long as the measurements are the same, it shouldnt be a problem. i think the vent was on the wrong side though. |
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Title: Re: Everstart battery Post by LANCER on 10/31/09 at 17:56:48 I just replaced my Odyssey that lasted 7-8 years, and would likely have made it a couple more if my battery had not gone unreplaced for almost 2 years, with a AGM GEL Battery YTX20L-BS (270 CCA). Got it on ebay for $53 incl shp. It is for the big HD's. The one listed for the Savage had 170 CCA. |
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Title: Re: Everstart battery Post by greyhead51 on 10/31/09 at 18:28:11 i put a yuasa on my son's savage. (costly but worth it) |
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Title: Re: Everstart battery Post by Oldfeller on 11/01/09 at 03:34:41 Jay, yes you can put in an "instant" Walmart replacement -- just be prepared to do some work the first time you do it. Walmart batteries will send your vent tube off in odd directions and will sometimes put your battery terminals on the "wrong" side -- neither are fatal with a little thought. Take all the routing slack out of your battery leads heading to the battery box and you may find you have enough slack to get to the connections on the Walmart battery. If not, take out some cable and a soldering iron and give yourself the necessary leg room -- to use a generic battery you have to be able to put the connections wherever the generic battery happens to have them. Once you have the cable length, you are always prepped for a drop in battery. The vent tube is easy -- they give you a long clear tube with the battery, so go over the top of the battery to the proper side to run the tube down the battery box. As long as the tube isn't pinched it can still do its job. The Savage battery terminal configuration is an odd one that is NOT stocked by many places any more. Walmart stocks its popular brother, the one with the + & - in the wrong places. Mod your Savage a bit and be able to pick up a popular generic battery from anywhere at any time. |
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Title: Re: Everstart battery Post by Routy on 11/01/09 at 03:47:11 Thanks, good to know what to expect when the time comes. |
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Title: Re: Everstart battery Post by srinath on 11/01/09 at 05:30:34 Everstart wont quite fit in that battery box, and cables wont reach. I am re fabbing that battery box so it will work. But Otherwise its fine for capacity if you get an ES14BS. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: Everstart battery Post by srinath on 11/01/09 at 05:32:41 I was referring to the sealed version, sorry. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: Everstart battery Post by Oldfeller on 11/01/09 at 07:08:57 We were talking the cheaper wet acid type when we are talking cheap replacement battery. If you want to mod your box to use the bigger ventless battery, that's fine -- but the cost goes up towards the Big Crank price range. |
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Title: Re: Everstart battery Post by srinath on 11/01/09 at 15:23:38 The sealed 14-AHLBS fits without mods to battery box. The battery costs 50 bucks on fleabay for a decent make - dont recall what make, but its there in my savage right now. However the savage battery box can be modded to take the 14-BS battery which I can scavenge off reject piles @ my local friendly bike dealer ... and modding the box cost me 10 bucks (I fabbed a whole new one, you just have to make an Z shaped plate with boltholes to fit the original battery box. Or just zip tie it in and leave the tool box out ... Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: Everstart battery Post by MMRanch on 11/01/09 at 20:30:31 I got a Everstart since Aug 09 --- been good so far |
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Title: Re: Everstart battery Post by babyhog on 11/02/09 at 08:31:57 Battery died on my husband's C90 Friday. We went looking for a local replacement. A month or so ago, I replaced the one in my S40 with a Big Crank that I ordered online. When it came in, the box was something like "Magna Extreme". Size ETX15L. When we went looking for his, Advance Auto has several on the shelf now. I'm pretty sure I saw an ETX15L, in the same box as what came when I ordered online from Big Crank! At the time, I couldn't remember the number from mine, but I'm pretty sure it was the same battery. None of the other places we checked (including WallyWorld, Sears, K-Mart, AutoZone, Napa, etc) had a match. (I ended up ordering one for the C90 from Big Crank online also) |
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Title: Re: Everstart battery Post by Serowbot on 11/02/09 at 11:41:49 This one looks o.k.... $61.00 http://www.batterystuff.com/batteries/motorcycle/sYTX14AHL-BS.html http://www.batterystuff.com/images/productimages/276x_ytx14ahl-bs_md.jpg |
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Title: Re: Everstart battery Post by Oldfeller on 11/02/09 at 12:13:58 If ordering on line, you can go old school wet acid with the "stock" battery in either terminal position for $29.95 from these folks. ======== this is supposedly the rare "right one" ========= http://www.batteryxpress.com/store/ProdImages/14L-B2%20%20LRG.JPG ======== this is the commonly available "Walmart" one ========= http://www.batteryxpress.com/store/ProdImages/14L-A2%20%20LRG.JPG located at: http://www.batteryxpress.com/store/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=96 http://www.batteryxpress.com/store/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=95 |
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Title: Re: Everstart battery Post by bill67 on 11/02/09 at 12:30:00 That battery looks reversed to me. |
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Title: Re: Everstart battery Post by Oldfeller on 11/03/09 at 04:51:24 Durned if they don't look wrong to me too. Those pictures don't seem to match the product listing, do they? Here is a pic of a stock YB14L-A2 Yuasha battery from Bob's for comparison. Bob's is listing the alternate configuration as "the battery" now. http://www.bobscycle.com/prodimg/300206.JPG http://www.bobscycle.com/browse.cfm/4,19597.htm ============= Bill, if you want the reversed pole position they sell that one too for the same price. I think you need to watch out for the pictures though, I am not sure but that they don't use the same pic for a lot of different designations as these terminals didn't move left right either. The CB prefix number on the battery doesn't seem to match the YB product listing either. It does give the suffix as A-2 though. Do you think maybe some generic substitution is going on at the wholesale level also? Or is that a manufacturer specific part number instead of the Yuasha system number? http://www.batteryxpress.com/store/ProdImages/14L-A2%20%20LRG.JPG http://www.batteryxpress.com/store/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=95 The A-2 or the B-2 is the crux of the old Yuasha style designation for the lead acids as far as flipping the terminals front/back right/left. I think these guys have the correct battery for any Yuasha battery designation at a very reasonable $29.95 price. I would just type in the whole and correct battery number into the search box and it will show you all the competitive brand names and prices. Perhaps this is a sign of our battery future -- if you lengthen your cables a bit you can digest whatever the current generic lead acid battery comes in looking like. If you have to get the exact terminal configuration you used to get, use the full battery designation and cross your fingers that there hasn't been a substitution done by the vendor chain. ================= With the influx of sealed batteries running under the manufacturer's own designation systems, the old wet acid "habit" of always listing batteries under the Yuasha designation system seems to be breaking down industry wide. Go net looking for an LS650 battery now days won't even yield the "generic" battery type number listing any more, just that particular manufacturer's number. ================= Battery prices are getting right shocking too. Last battery I bought was $14.95 shipped dry with an acid pack in the box. I kept it around for a while before using it, but shipped dry & stored indoors a battery has nearly infinite storage life. I saw some for $95 this time around (shudder). $29.95 seems to be the best price around right now. Your next battery will likely cost a lot more. |
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Title: Re: Everstart battery Post by srinath on 11/03/09 at 07:01:37 The Koyo 14 LB2 is the right battery. The drain has to be on the right with the negative on the left, positive on the right toward the rear of the bike. A sealed one dont have a drain. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: Everstart battery Post by vhfkid on 11/06/09 at 07:27:59 6241494B484141485F2D0 wrote:
I bought the KOYO for my wife's S40. Got battery acid at interstate battery for $1.99 Careful with filling it, always follow instructions. Worked like a champ, and was the least expensive way to go (for a stock fit), but had to wait 2 days to get the battery. If you're stranded look at sears, batterysplus, and Oriley's autoparts for an AGM or standard that'll fit. Other stores like autozone, CSK, Walmart and the like should have the LA2 in stock for like $20-$40 but it'll need to be rigged. I wish this post was up when I was looking for a stock fit battery. The Koyo from batteryexpress took me a day of scouring the internet to find that deal! ;D |
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Title: Re: Everstart battery - thanks Post by Jay on 11/06/09 at 14:08:26 Guys, thanks so much for the replies. I was afraid there wouldn't be a drop in replacement, but I was hoping. Still, with the suggested mods by Oldfeller, I could drop in just about any battery. Thanks again everybody. |
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Title: Re: Everstart battery Post by vhfkid on 11/06/09 at 15:29:19 Let us know if you do mod the battery box. Post Pics!!! We love to see what's been done. |
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Title: Re: Everstart battery Post by srinath on 11/06/09 at 20:17:26 I modded mine. I bent a 7inch X 12 inch piece of stainless 16 guage perforated sheet metal which had 1/4 inch holes into a channel shape. Then I welded up a 4 inch X 3 inch end plate on the left side. Right side can be closed with a zip tie or make a bolt with a L shape head. Or a hook shape. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: Everstart battery Post by Mr 650 on 11/08/09 at 08:18:58 Advance used to be Western Auto, had a Yuasa for my PC800 on the shelf. The Big Crank has endured a few seasons it is getting weak now. |
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Title: Re: Everstart battery Post by Mr 650 on 11/08/09 at 08:26:20 A bud was prepping for the 1st race of the spring. The old 12V batt. in the trailer was run down & dead so he trotted out the charger and charged it all night. It took him along time to figure out why the wench operated backwards. Yup, he had the black & red crossed and charged the battery back to reverse polarity. |
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