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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Rubber Side Down! >> S40 Engine Counter-balancer Information Needed /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1256240597 Message started by Kevininsc on 10/22/09 at 12:43:17 |
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Title: S40 Engine Counter-balancer Information Needed Post by Kevininsc on 10/22/09 at 12:43:17 Greetings: Can anybody tell me if suzuki has changed the counter-balancer (S40) in the engine in the last couple of years. I've read somewhere that they might have refined it a little in the 2009 model? TRUE/FICTION?? thanks Kevin |
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Title: Re: S40 Engine Counter-balancer Information Needed Post by Mr. Hyde on 10/22/09 at 13:11:17 I know the counter balance on my '07 was improved but I think the changes were made in '05. Don't know about '09. |
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Title: Re: S40 Engine Counter-balancer Information Needed Post by Kevininsc on 10/22/09 at 15:11:25 Thanks Mr Hyde: ;D The reason I ask- is that I have heard that the vibrations from the single at highway speed on the S40 is pretty bad. But, if they have since made improvements on the counter-balancer from 2007 and up, this might not be true anymore. Any comments on highway speed vibrations on later S40s' that would be great. :) Thanks Kevin |
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Title: Re: S40 Engine Counter-balancer Information Needed Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/22/09 at 15:19:05 I have an 05. If I had a windshield I might be more aware of vibration at speed, but as is Im so busy hanging on Im not all that aware of it being "oppressive" or too intrusive. Its not an inline 4 cylinder Honda, fershure, but its not what I call Bad. Now, if I hold the throttle too tight, the hand will go all tingly. I like the way it makes my feet feel on the pegs. Maybe thats why the tank is small, so people have a reason to take a break pretty often? Maybe thats why the seat sux, to keep people focused on something else? Its been in production a long time. If it was too bad, well, you know.. OHH, & you can fill the handlebars with lead shot, too. |
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Title: Re: S40 Engine Counter-balancer Information Needed Post by Phelonius on 10/22/09 at 15:29:08 Mine modified itself. The whole counterbalancer shaft left the engine at 60MPH, along with 2 quarts of oil. Then I ran over it with the rear wheel. Some days are more fun than others. Phelonius |
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Title: Re: S40 Engine Counter-balancer Information Needed Post by verslagen1 on 10/22/09 at 18:08:38 I heard people with more than one cylinder lie. :-? |
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Title: Re: S40 Engine Counter-balancer Information Needed Post by gerald.hughes on 10/22/09 at 18:42:34 I don't know about the other riders on this site, but I tend to listen to my bikes and ride where they are happiest. At 60, my 03 is happiest in 4th gear. It may not be the best for gas mileage, but the engine is running smoothly and feels like it has a lot to give. In 5th, that sweet spot is at 70, but I notice that my oil consumption goes up above 65, so I don't tend to ride there unless I am in a hurry to get somewhere, which is almost never any more. I do not notice any appreciable vibration, in the saddle, the foot pegs, or the handlebars, when the bike is running in the sweet spot. |
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Title: Re: S40 Engine Counter-balancer Information Needed Post by T Mack 1 - FSO on 10/22/09 at 19:32:37 Guys, it's so easy to check if there was a change. Go to one of the On-Line parts microfische places like Bike Bandit, or Ronayers.com and look up the different years. It was replaced in 1996 (long ago). 1986 BALANCER, CRANK 12651-24B00 (replaced by 12651-24B01) 1988 BALANCER, CRANK 12651-24B00 (replaced by 12651-24B01) 1995 BALANCER, CRANK 12651-24B00 (replaced by 12651-24B01) 1996 BALANCER, CRANK 12651-24B01 2001 BALANCER, CRANK 12651-24B01 2009 BALANCER, CRANK 12651-24B01 |
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Title: Re: S40 Engine Counter-balancer Information Needed Post by kk lewi on 10/23/09 at 07:53:04 6159545D5E5F584442310 wrote:
AHAHAHA ;D |
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Title: Re: S40 Engine Counter-balancer Information Needed Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/23/09 at 08:15:10 I had included in my post, at the end "If you arent happy with how its balanced, someone here will surely help you modify it" but ,,,seemed wrong somehow, but since Phelonius brought it up.. |
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Title: Re: S40 Engine Counter-balancer Information Needed Post by Phelonius on 10/23/09 at 09:55:54 382721263B3C0D3D0D35272B60520 wrote:
I not only brought it up, I brought it out. And, I did it much faster than any of you have. Phelonius |
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Title: Re: S40 Engine Counter-balancer Information Needed Post by T Mack 1 - FSO on 10/23/09 at 09:58:50 646671626F672D6B76646B6670030 wrote:
Hmmmmm.... I always thought that going down the higway at 60 in fifth seems like th engine could use a 6th gear. Doing it in fouth for any lenght of time .... :-? |
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Title: Re: S40 Engine Counter-balancer Information Needed Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/23/09 at 11:33:04 I not only brought it up, I brought it out. And, I did it much faster than any of you have. First real LOL Ive had in a while. Glad you can laff about it now & real glad it didnt cause you to lose control & get hurt. |
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Title: Re: S40 Engine Counter-balancer Information Needed Post by Ebikerman on 10/24/09 at 06:33:06 Kevininsc, The vibrations that you feel with the S40 are different from high reving engines. At least that is the case with my '06 S40. Some engines produce a high frequency vibration while the S40 seems to produce a lower frequency vibration. I have had other bikes put parts of my anatomy to sleep, but not the S40. You will feel the single cylinder fireing pulses, but they are mild and even pleasant. There are some higher pitch vibs, but I have not found them objectional. As to the S40 making body parts tingle, those bikes must have muffler mods or are driven at extra high speeds. When I bought this S40, I aked the seller about vibration. He compared it to a riding lawn mower. However, I don't think lawn mower when riding my S40 Boulevard. I believe, if you get a good S40 without much engine wear and is running right, you will be very pleased with the amount and type vibration it produces. It is a motorcycle and feels like one, It has a fairly large displacement of 652ccs, so some pulsing and vibration is to be expected. These are only my observations on the bike in question. I suggest you find someone with an S40 and give it a ride since you are not sure about the vibrations. Good luck......Dan |
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Title: Re: S40 Engine Counter-balancer Information Needed Post by LANCER on 10/26/09 at 02:41:22 A big single is supposed to feel like a bed with a good vibrator built in. 8-) |
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Title: Re: S40 Engine Counter-balancer Information Needed Post by bill67 on 10/26/09 at 04:23:27 Seems like a 4 cylinder would vibrate 4 times as much. ;) |
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Title: Re: S40 Engine Counter-balancer Information Needed Post by Ebikerman on 10/26/09 at 05:20:08 You will not even be thinking vibration while riding your S40 it is just not a real concern, at least not on my '06 model. Power is strong if you need it and easy and controlable if you don't. If excess vibration does occur, I doubt it will be under 70mph. I have been over 60 and my concern was with the wind on my body, not vibration. I don't see how anyone could complain about vibration on one of these bikes. Carburation and maybe some oil condumption are about the only issues that deserve any consideration. Also possibly the cam chain and it's related parts....Dan |
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Title: Re: S40 Engine Counter-balancer Information Needed Post by Ebikerman on 10/26/09 at 05:23:29 53545F5D53445B5758360 wrote:
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