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Title: LED fuel gauge (for savage?) Post by Stimpy on 10/13/09 at 13:16:40 For those of you who are still annoyed at having to remember to gas up every 100miles here is a possible solution for our bikes, a friend of mine bought a used harley that came with a neat LED tankcap/fuel gauge, so he does not know where to buy it but it works like this: You stick it in the gas tank and screw it put (in this bike w/2 holes in it's tank, the right cap is the actual fuel cap and the left one is the gauge) the thing has these sensors inside (a float mechanism maybe?) that tells you from 1 to 6 how much gas you have left by lighting LED lights on the skull's teeth (see pictures), the first one is red (reserve) and the rest are blue, works fine, lit 2 blue ones when I straightened the bike upright; very nice but pricey I'm sure since it may well be an original harley accessory and the tank may need to be adapted for use in the savage, well now you know they exist. Anyone has anything similar installed? (apart from our lock/tripmeters ) ;D http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/1796/10102009248.jpg http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/7950/10102009249.jpg http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/2129/10102009250.jpg |
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Title: Re: LED fuel gauge (for savage?) Post by BurnPgh on 10/13/09 at 13:19:01 im sorry...thats just tacky. Skull teeth that light up? Gimme a break. |
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Title: Re: LED fuel gauge (for savage?) Post by Stimpy on 10/13/09 at 13:23:51 +1 Agreed. ...but that's what the harley crowd seems to like, whatchagonnado?! :D Anyway, what I would do if I had an extra tank, the right tools, materials and interest in really doing it would be to slash a 1" cut in our tanks that runs from somewhere close to the bottom to the top close to there the cap is and then place a window there made of thick glass or plexiglass or something the gas won't eat through and seal it with some marine-tex or something and there you have it, a see-through window fuel gauge for the savage (or run an outside clear tube of some sort from bottom to top to see the tank's level) now THAT would be cool! So there, there is my million dollar idea, any volunteers for the savage prototype? http://www.flyritechoppers.com/Pix/sight_glass.jpg |
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Title: Re: LED fuel gauge (for savage?) Post by babyhog on 10/13/09 at 13:30:45 +1 on tacky, but the principle is interesting! |
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Title: Re: LED fuel gauge (for savage?) Post by Oldnewguy on 10/13/09 at 13:35:02 I have an old John Deere tractor that has a fuel gauge in the cap. It would be easy to weld the neck to the gas tank of the 650. I just like the tractor to much to do it. I'll just keep on dialing my lock. |
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Title: Re: LED fuel gauge (for savage?) Post by prsavage on 10/13/09 at 17:41:55 I work as a marine engineer and I have nevere seen a tank fitting that didn't eventually leak. Yes some of them took many years to leak but they did leak in the end. The amount of vibration that sight glass would endure would get it leaking quick. It does look good though. ;) |
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Title: Re: LED fuel gauge (for savage?) Post by thumperclone on 10/13/09 at 18:05:28 3E3D3C313329500 wrote:
tell me if get it to work on the savage.. my bet it wont for the $$$ spent... |
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Title: Re: LED fuel gauge (for savage?) Post by Routy on 10/13/09 at 18:25:19 Ok, but at the same time if a person was to T into the petcock w/ a clear plastic line, and run it along the bottom of the fuel tank and where ??up into the headlight ? Then stick a carb jet w/ the smallest hole in the end of the hose ? There, now you have a visual fuel gauge. |
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Title: Re: LED fuel gauge (for savage?) Post by Rocco on 10/13/09 at 19:39:15 a buddy of mine has a clear tube sticking out of his tank like the one above and it is SICK!!! i'd totally get it done 2 mine, except it costs 100 bucks. which is perfectly ok since his is a big old custom. if i can't make mine or zip tie something...i don't want it :P |
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Title: Re: LED fuel gauge (for savage?) Post by verslagen1 on 10/13/09 at 23:13:14 I checked out the featured gage, only works if you have as tank with a built in sensor. |
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Title: Re: LED fuel gauge (for savage?) Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/14/09 at 08:01:57 Siometimes I forget when I filled up last. But, if Im going for a ride, I have my keys "Right THERE", ya know? So, I know it's kinda radical, but here's what I do.. I Pop the gas cap OFF & Peek down in yonda. If I think I can ride a while, I do, if I figure I should just go on & fill up so my fun isnt interrupted, then I do that. Once Im "Out there" & have an idea how much gas I have, Im happy, but I dont like wondering if its about to cut out as I slow for a corner. |
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Title: Re: LED fuel gauge (for savage?) Post by MauiNancy on 10/14/09 at 20:48:22 352A2C2B3631003000382A266D5F0 wrote:
Yep, I always look in the tank before a ride and fill-up if it is more than a 1/4 low. Only once had to fill-up during a ride [not often we go more than 125 mi. on the isle!] |
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Title: Re: LED fuel gauge (for savage?) Post by qp on 10/24/09 at 12:11:50 The fuel gauge shown is a receiving unit, there needs to be a transmitter of some sort in the tank, and the Savage doesn't have one. Oh, besides the skull with teeth, you can have plain dome, HD emblem, Cross, Sixshooter, Flames and maybe one other. HD and Kuryakyn carry them. I, too, am a marine engineer, and you can run a clear tube from the bottom of the tank to the top, it doesn't matter how long or what it's path is, you will get an accurate level reading, but really, do you want to carry gasoline outside of your tank? That will certainly raise the excitement level in case of a collision. (The top of the tube must return to the tank, a closed-end tube is nothing more than an air trap that will never give an accurate reading.) The best idea I've heard, besides replacing the tank with one containing a float, is a cap that has float-and-screw attached to its bottom so the float will sit in the gasoline. Wish I new where to find one. |
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Title: Re: LED fuel gauge (for savage?) Post by RidgeRunner13 on 10/24/09 at 12:39:07 Why not take an old dipstick, measure from the bottom of the tank to the top of the filler neck, subtract the distance the cap goes down, bend an ell & drill a small whole to attach it to one of the screws in the cap. You still have to pull the cap, but the dipstick would give you a visual reference of your fuel level. Might be better than just trying to look in the tank. :) |
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Title: Re: LED fuel gauge (for savage?) Post by FreeSpirit on 10/24/09 at 12:43:04 Quote-"a cap that has float-and-screw attached to its bottom so the float will sit in the gasoline. Wish I new where to find one. " Sounds like the most logical idea! Let me/us know if you find one ;) I would think Suzuki could have come up with that for the Savage/S40. :-/ |
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Title: Re: LED fuel gauge (for savage?) Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/24/09 at 12:46:57 5B5A4B49414B584E2A0 wrote:
14 View Details Title Replacement Gas Cap With Gauge for Toro wheel Horse 10-6945 Description Replacement fuel cap for Toro / Wheelhorse tractors with gauge with cap Diameter of 2 1/4" and 7" deep tank SKU 125-112 Mowtownusa Price $14.99 Qty 15 View Details Title Replacement Gas Cap With Gauge for John Deere am39206 & Exmark 513508 Description Replacement fuel cap with gauge for John Deere Tractors with 2 1/4" diameter opening and 9" tank depth SKU 125-120 Mowtownusa Price $12.99 Qty http://www.mowtownusa.com/291.html MOW Town,,, a lawnmower supply house,,,LMAO... just search lawn mower gas cap fuel gauge..plenty there. Some happy modding & Viola! Oughta have a fuel gauge. Id want a replacement gas cap, in case I screwed it up. |
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Title: Re: LED fuel gauge (for savage?) Post by bill67 on 10/24/09 at 12:47:17 I just leave the cap off and put a fish bobber in there with a flag on top when the flag goes below the tank it time for gas. |
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Title: Re: LED fuel gauge (for savage?) Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/24/09 at 12:51:44 I want Bill at my next party..Crazy SOB,, |
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Title: Re: LED fuel gauge (for savage?) Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/24/09 at 12:57:34 http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&source=hp&q=lawnmower+gas+cap+with+fuel+gauge&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=E1njStGXNcye8AbW48j5AQ&sa=X&oi=product_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CCIQrQQwAA |
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Title: Re: LED fuel gauge (for savage?) Post by FreeSpirit on 10/24/09 at 12:59:18 26393F3825221323132B39357E4C0 wrote:
You should buy plenty of Kleenex's ....people will have many tears from laughter ;) |
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Title: Re: LED fuel gauge (for savage?) Post by Rocco on 10/25/09 at 10:01:59 i was so proud the other day, i was coming around a corner(ironic that was mentioned) and i felt her kinda stutter, i gave her a little gas and the mph dropped. so i reached under put her to res and kept going....i was so proud that i heard what she was saying this time ! lol |
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Title: Re: LED fuel gauge (for savage?) Post by dinsdale on 10/27/09 at 07:58:48 If you put a hole in your tank opposite the Fuel cap to maintain symmetry, you might be able to use one of these if the tank is 20 cm deep or more. Anyone know the depth of the tank? http://www.tek-tanks.com/senders_gauges/imgs/Fozmula.jpg http://www.tek-tanks.com/senders_gauges/imgs/Fozmula_Flange.jpg Quote:
http://www.tek-tanks.com/senders_gauges/fuel.html |
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Title: Re: LED fuel gauge (for savage?) Post by Oldnewguy on 10/27/09 at 11:28:09 20 c = 7.87ins The tank depth appears to be 7.25 ins max. :-[ |
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Title: Re: LED fuel gauge (for savage?) Post by Oldnewguy on 10/27/09 at 11:32:36 BTW that link says that custom lengths are available. I was going to call them, but they are in the UK! :-[ |
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Title: Re: LED fuel gauge (for savage?) Post by JohnBoy on 10/28/09 at 17:57:35 "Yep, I always look in the tank before a ride and fill-up if it is more than a 1/4 low. Only once had to fill-up during a ride [not often we go more than 125 mi. on the isle!] " Maui, in West Texas and here in AZ it's 125mi to the mailbox! :) |
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Title: Re: LED fuel gauge (for savage?) Post by Mr 650 on 10/30/09 at 01:46:55 This came up awhile back, because this is gravity fed, it is basically a manometer. It measures the top of a "column " of fluid from the carb needle up to the level in the tank. Would not need to put any holes in the tank. One could run a transparent line from a tee below the petc0ck up to the cap. And if one could come up w/ a check valve of some sort, it would not have to return to the cap, but the end must be higher than the cap like up the bar. So no holes, same effect, does not need to be a large line either.It would defeat the vacuum shut off but only the small amount of fuel in the new tube might return to the carb so a shutoff below that might be considered. The stock vacuum shut off will prevent the level from equalizing when the motor is shutoff too. Until it is cranked again and then the level can equalize again. Still a fuel line would likely be to run up to the cap. If It were up by the fork, you couldn't see it very well, if you come up toward the back well you have a gas line betwix yo legs. Not sayin it is the best way but it would be a cheap way to see the gas level. :) |
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Title: Re: LED fuel gauge (for savage?) Post by qp on 11/09/09 at 15:13:42 I talked to the nice folks at Tek-Tanks today: their gauge is 50 gbp + 40 gbp shipping, which converts to about $150. Ouch. Then add the $65/hr labor charge to install it professionally and that solution is approaching $250. Double ouch. Most of the parts people at the lawnmower/ATV stores whom I approached seemed astonished that I could read and write and I often got that deer-in-the-headlights look. The John Deere dealer was enthusiastic about the idea, and while he did not have any appropriate parts he did have some good suggestions. Then I finally found one fellow in Salt Lake who said We can do this (Mower-Medic, South Jordan UT). He described how he would weld a mount to the tank and then securely fasten to it a gauge/cap. He asked me to bring in a list of caps (go to amazon) that might work and he will figure out the best solution. I'm thinking of the cap/gauge by Simplicity, 171152, because the 2008 savage tank is 8 inches deep. I'll get started on this in a few weeks when the riding season is over and then I'll post the results. |
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Title: Re: LED fuel gauge (for savage?) Post by qp on 11/19/09 at 16:03:16 I spoke too soon, I should not have shot off my mouth. I finally found a local who has done this before, and while it will be a professional job, it will still run $250. I give up and will stick with the combo-lock and reserve valve. :'( --------- My Savage runs fine, it backfires normally. |
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