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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Rubber Side Down! >> Using slightly more oil w/Rotella syn - normal? /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1255179681 Message started by voldigicam on 10/10/09 at 06:01:21 |
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Title: Using slightly more oil w/Rotella syn - normal? Post by voldigicam on 10/10/09 at 06:01:21 I appear to be using very slightly more oil with the 5W50 Rotella synthetic. Is this normal perhaps? Looks like I'll drop 1/8" in the window over 500 miles. Which seems acceptable to me, but is roughly double the drop with the 15W-40 regular Rotella. Only limited testing, so I could be wrong. I'm not worried, just curious. |
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Title: Re: Using slightly more oil w/Rotella syn - normal Post by Oldfeller on 10/10/09 at 06:08:12 I've not noticed an increase in oil usage personally, but you and Verslagen have. Interesting point, anyway. Any shifting changes (we have 4 reports of improved shifting) or more free rpm pickup (2 reports of freer revving)? ============ There is a known correlation between people wicking it up more and increased oil usage, type of oil irregardless. If you are enjoying the free revving, you might kinda expect to lose some extra oil through the air box dump tube. |
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Title: Re: Using slightly more oil w/Rotella syn - normal Post by voldigicam on 10/10/09 at 09:11:46 Oh yes, on the shifting, much much better. No comparison. Engine runs freer, gets noticeably better mileage. Previously 45 to 52 mpg, now 48 with 2 on board running hard, 55 normally. Impressive. |
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Title: Re: Using slightly more oil w/Rotella syn - normal Post by Oldfeller on 10/10/09 at 09:32:54 I know this shouldn't be coming from me (since I am a known partisan for Rotella Syn) but the change in shifting and engine run up/wick up characteristics just from changing to the blue jug stuff altered performance of my bike about as much as unstopping the air filter did. As such, should this be listed as a mod? I mean, we list the platinum plug as a mod -- but Rotella Syn made a much larger actual change in my engine performance than the platinum plug ever did. |
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Title: Re: Using slightly more oil w/Rotella syn - normal Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/10/09 at 09:33:40 A thinner oil may be allowing some leakage in places that didnt seep any out before. Thats one of the reasons I went to 15/40. I think it slowed it some at the o-ring where the clutch arm goes thru the side. Keeping it topped off with the 15/40 Rotella-T is plenty cheap. 1/8th" in 500 miles? Id say youre doing pretty danged Good. |
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Title: Re: Using slightly more oil w/Rotella syn - normal Post by PTRider on 10/10/09 at 16:46:15 The oil is no thinner at operating temperature. Both meet the 40 wt. spec at 100°C, the test temperature. |
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Title: Re: Using slightly more oil w/Rotella syn - normal Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/10/09 at 18:29:52 04031C4F0 wrote:
Good point. Given what Ive read, I think Ill just swap over to the synthetic & see how it goes. I guess Ill have to fix that leaky O-Ring issue,, dang ITTT,,, Owell, I have an oil change coming up, that would be when to do it all & just be DONE wiff the dang thang,, |
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Title: Re: Using slightly more oil w/Rotella syn - normal Post by 4carbcorvair on 10/11/09 at 07:57:19 Definately an improvement in shifting with the Rotella syn. :) |
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Title: Re: Using slightly more oil w/Rotella syn - normal Post by Oldfeller on 10/11/09 at 08:13:35 We also have enough people saying they get better gas mileage for me to start trying to collect my own information to see what is what on that topic. I generally get 47-48 mpg around town historically due to my bad habits with the right wrist, so we will see if Rsyn makes any difference mileage wise. I know I am one of the ones who is a "freer wicker" and an "easier shifting" anyway. Mpg, I dunno yet. |
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Title: Re: Using slightly more oil w/Rotella syn - normal Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/11/09 at 08:18:58 It would need to a dramatic increase in pure engine efficiency to translate into better MPG what will all the grins from the newly discovered "Free Wicking" & easy shifting. IOW, Id be riding stewpid & waste it all,, yea, like that. |
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Title: Re: Using slightly more oil w/Rotella syn - normal Post by Oldfeller on 10/11/09 at 08:20:55 I already ran stupid before, so if I am more efficiently doing stupid it might actually show in the mpg numbers -- plus, I'm curious anyway. |
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Title: Re: Using slightly more oil w/Rotella syn - normal Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/11/09 at 09:22:40 Good Point, O.F., Good Point.. I gotta get that Goodrich on. So I can do some more Stewpid. I am really anxious to see how having it on affects the rear braking. Right now, the ground is too wet to set the Harbor Freight tire changer in the cement. |
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Title: Re: Using slightly more oil w/Rotella syn - normal Post by buttgoat1 on 10/12/09 at 14:53:14 I also noticed more oil consumption with Mobil 1 v twin synthetic. I topped it off with rotella between oil changes. |
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Title: Re: Using slightly more oil w/Rotella syn - normal Post by bill67 on 10/12/09 at 15:02:47 I've never notice any difference in oil consumption between syn,and regular oil. |
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Title: Re: Using slightly more oil w/Rotella syn - normal Post by Oldfeller on 10/12/09 at 16:14:36 I was riding today in the rain and I was able to break free the rear tire accelerating from the stop lights -- I didn't have that issue in the past, but cannot say what the real root cause was either. Could have been residue of oil on the street, could have been extra power available, could have been "more wick" coming up quicker on the acceleration - who knows? Really no way to discern what caused it, not completely. I just know I liked it. The converse to this being I've got to start being more careful accelerating around the curves now because that "digging in" sensation when whapping it on the second half of the turn might turn into a butt end power slide --- and that could be right scary. (I don't do that in the rain -- too wet and slick already !!) I think "more wick" = more oil consumption blowing it out the bypass tube in the head down to the air box. Plus if you make a habit out of wicking it hard you are going to loosen up your engine over a period of time. I think they call it "intentional abuse" .... |
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Title: Re: Using slightly more oil w/Rotella syn - normal Post by bill67 on 10/12/09 at 17:02:06 OF I think your due for new tires,I recommend Pirelli Route 66 |
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Title: Re: Using slightly more oil w/Rotella syn - normal Post by Oldfeller on 10/13/09 at 05:34:13 Same old tire that's been there for over 2 years (about half worn out now). Could be, who knows? Wet, cold -- all the stuff tires don't like. Braking seems OK though. Tire is still wearing itself back into perfect round from the wreck, so that could be part of it too. Still, having it spin out a bit on acceleration feels nice. You'd never spin it out on dry pavement, you'd hook up and wheelie instead. ========================== Hot Wheels! The sound of POWER! RRROAR! |
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Title: Re: Using slightly more oil w/Rotella syn - normal Post by supernes550 on 10/13/09 at 16:16:03 4261696B686161687F0D0 wrote:
i'd like to see a pic of a savage being wheelied. |
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Title: Re: Using slightly more oil w/Rotella syn - normal Post by BurnPgh on 10/13/09 at 18:55:23 it's not super hard to do on these things. Ineclipse wheelied, on accident, riding 2 up, and his passenger was another fully grown +/- 180lb man. Popped a fork seal on the way down. I personally dont know how to wheelie, and the one time i did on accident my butt had a few quick puckers so...no pics coming from me. |
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Title: Re: Using slightly more oil w/Rotella syn - normal Post by Oldfeller on 10/13/09 at 19:47:32 Wheelie on a Savage, not hard to do -- all of them can do it. Jest rev it up hard in first gear, dump clutch -- SEE THE SKY !! Aaaarugh! <KERBAM> <CRASH> :-/ Pick the torn up bike up from pavement, replace the clutch, replace mirrors, levers, turn signals .... you get the picture. :-? |
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