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Title: taking bike to dealership for maintenance Post by kk lewi on 09/23/09 at 17:36:09 Hellloooo forum peoples! It's great to have found this resource. In fact, this website is probably one of the main reason I purchased my s40. :) It's great to be here! Now for my story and question. :D I just purchased my bike from a local dealership. It is an '07 and had 140 miles on it when I bought it. It had one prior owner. I got a decent deal and according to the service records I asked for, they did an oil\filter change to her along with their 60 point inspection check (wink, wink) when she was traded in to them. It was backfiring like crazy when I left so I took her back in for them to check out. They looked it over and ended up saying the nuts from the head pipe were loose and gave it back to me. I had already read here that these bikes do backfire often, but I took it back in anyway. I have since put a couple of hundred miles on her. It still backfires and I'm certain it needs some carb/spark plug/rejet love. It does have an aftermarket muffler (Jardine) so that may be some of it too. I will be coming up on my 600mile checkup soon, and I'm not real confident that the dealership will do more than change my oil/filter with maybe a few common screws to tighten (although they apparently couldn't be bothered to check it out when the old owner traded it in. ie loose header pipe nuts). Now to the meat and potatoes of it. Stay with me now! :P They charge $250 to do the routine maintenance called for in the manual. $250 to change my oil/filter doesn't seem like much of a bargain! :o Problem is I have 11 months left on the manufacturer warranty. As you all know if I don't have the routine maintenance done by them or a certified Suzuki mechanic I will void the warranty that is left on the bike. I'm not an idiot and have the manual so I can tighten what needs tightening and can certainly change the oil/filter. I think the next routine maintenance is at 1500 or 2500 miles. 2x routine maintenance in the next few months (my primary mode of transportation). That's $500! (duh) Worst case scenario: I do the maintenance myself and lose the manufacturer warranty. It locks up (all the manufacturer warranty covers I think) I have to buy a new engine. I imagine I could get one for a few hundred to five hundred dollars? Best case scenario: I do the maintenance, learn a few things and all is good in 11 months. Intermediate scenario: I pay the dealership $500 for the routine maintenance. Bike locks up or doesn't in the next 11 months and is then fixed or still running same. What do you guy/gals think? Thanks all ;D I promise to never write such a long post again! ;D |
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Title: Re: taking bike to dealership for maintenance Post by verslagen1 on 09/23/09 at 19:04:49 alrighty lewi ;) ;) Tell the dealer you want to inspect the head when they torque the head bolts. when they call you in... take the head plug and tell 'em to put a new one in. They most likely won't putt RTV on it so tell 'em to do it. You don't want it leaking down the road. |
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Title: Re: taking bike to dealership for maintenance Post by boofer on 09/23/09 at 19:10:23 Whenever I have bought anything with a warranty, I asked the service mgr if I could change my own oil. One wanted me to buy his filter with bypass valve (not unreasonable). The others only said to use good quality oil and keep records and receipts, which I do anyway. It couldn't hurt to ask. If you look in the Tech forum at the oil change and other maintainence that $250 will probably make you mad. Welcome and happy riding. Boofer |
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Title: Re: taking bike to dealership for maintenance Post by boofer on 09/23/09 at 19:12:48 I bow to verslagen's superior knowledge on newer bikes. Mine has 9000 miles on it. Boofer |
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Title: Re: taking bike to dealership for maintenance Post by SavageDude on 09/23/09 at 19:45:58 33203736292422202B74450 wrote:
IMHO- I have an 05, all I ever did all it was change oil , oil filter, and check the valves clearance. Plug's leaking! What's that? My haven't leak a drop for the last 4 years. Do the routine maintenance and ride and ride. Unless you do a lot of superslab riding, those head bolts will not go anywhere. Save your money and check the torque on nuts and bolts on your bike. Invest in a torque wrench, it will comes in handy in many occassion. |
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Title: Re: taking bike to dealership for maintenance Post by kk lewi on 09/23/09 at 20:04:52 50627562646647766766030 wrote:
...check the valves clearance.[/quote] The valves were exactly what I was thinking would need adjusting at the 600mile! I asked if valve service was included. He said ehh no.... :-/ That would be another $200. ::) It actually gets comical in what is being charged and the product that is being offered or even completed. |
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Title: Re: taking bike to dealership for maintenance Post by SavageDude on 09/23/09 at 20:10:32 lewi Checking the valves is easy! I did mine twice and found that only the Exhaust ones need to be adjusted :) and those valves sit forward of the engine which BTW can be accessed easily. Ka ching $200 saved 8-) |
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Title: Re: taking bike to dealership for maintenance Post by runwyrlph on 09/23/09 at 20:17:36 do it yourself - get a clymers - use this site - save big $$$ i also have an 07 bought new - have found all the info needed for all the maintenance needed this bike WILL outlast your warranty |
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Title: Re: taking bike to dealership for maintenance Post by verslagen1 on 09/23/09 at 20:25:16 Although comical, they are supposed to "check" the valves not adjust. I suggest you let them "check" the valves and ask them to report on the clearances. if oh we don't do that then ask them how did they check? Then ask them if that's what they want on the afidavid? We'll teach how to adjust the valves when you are ready. |
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Title: Re: taking bike to dealership for maintenance Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/23/09 at 20:49:46 I'd keep it at home, do the work, use the $$$ saved to buy tools, manual, beer. So far, in the 3 years Ive been on this site, Ive only seen 2 engines screwed up completely. Each was done by a shop. No one here has ruined their own. |
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Title: Re: taking bike to dealership for maintenance Post by Dj12midnit on 09/23/09 at 20:59:11 Where do you live? I can get the whole thing done valves and all for a buck twenty five. |
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Title: Re: taking bike to dealership for maintenance Post by Bubba on 09/24/09 at 09:58:23 Just a comment...I went to the tech ref section, selected the table of contents with links, selected valve adjustment and it took me be back to the homepage...anyone have that link handy??? Thanks |
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Title: Re: taking bike to dealership for maintenance Post by kk lewi on 09/24/09 at 10:14:13 606E3536696D606A6D70040 wrote:
buck twenty with valve adjust is reasonable. 2 fitty plus 2 for valves is frickin highway robbery. I live in NC mate. Eastern NC. Thx for the reply. :) |
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Title: Re: taking bike to dealership for maintenance Post by kk lewi on 09/24/09 at 10:19:38 4E796E6E6D3D3C343F0C0 wrote:
hmmmpf, did the same for me just now. :-/ Back to the forum. link for moderator type people is "adjusting your valves" http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=tech;action=display;num=1151938664 |
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Title: Re: taking bike to dealership for maintenance Post by kk lewi on 09/24/09 at 10:22:03 594640475A5D6C5C6C54464A01330 wrote:
;D yes indeed ;D |
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Title: Re: taking bike to dealership for maintenance Post by matt on 09/24/09 at 10:29:57 man think of all the cases of beers you can buy from saving about 25% of the bikes resale value in money by not taking it to the dealership. Cheers |
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Title: Re: taking bike to dealership for maintenance Post by BurnPgh on 09/24/09 at 10:38:33 I wouldnt trust a shop unless you know the guy who owns it personally or unless you're riding a $10k + bike. Our little bikes and other similarly small/cheap bikes usually end up with the shop trainee (ie idiot). Before Ineclipse bought a Savage he took his 250 nighthawk to the local shop for a rear tire change. The idiot they had do it was in a hurry i geuss and didnt tighten the axle bolt. A week or so later his chain adjusters (which were bearing all the load since the axle wasnt tightened) broke, his chain jumped sprocket and he came to very abrupt hault in traffic. We found out a couple months later after he got a flat that the idiot had also put in the wrong tube. The tube he had installed was WAY too big and pinched in several places. The point is, our bike is simple and easy to work on. get a manual, a small tool kit with some feeler gauges, and a funnel. That pretty much all you'll need for basic upkeep. if something actually goes wrong hit us up and we'll get you through it. |
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Title: Re: taking bike to dealership for maintenance Post by kk lewi on 10/07/09 at 16:18:28 Finally got around to adjusting my carb. The dealership (prob previous owner!) had the pilot screw adjusted five....FIVE full turns out. :o No wonder it was backfiring so much! Frakin nubs. >:( I kept turning, and turning, and turning to close that thing up to see where it was! ;D I've opened it up to 2.5 turns out. I quick test rode 1 turn and then half a turn out until I got to 2.5 turns. It only backfired in a 3rd gear chop once at that adjustment. It was a really quick ride tho. I'll ride Suki tomorrow for reals to see how that adjustment fairs. :) |
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Title: Re: taking bike to dealership for maintenance Post by PTRider on 10/12/09 at 19:51:28 404D5456595F59380 wrote:
No, we don't all know that. Read your warranty paperwork. That is what you need to KNOW. You can do whatever it says there, and don't fall for the hype from the crooks at the stealership. In any case, anything you do that might harm part of the bike would only make the warranty void on those parts, not the entire warranty. If you screw up the valve adjustment, the warranty is still good on the transmission, clutch, electrics, etc., etc. In general, service can be done at any state licensed motorcycle repair shop*--be sure a complete description of the work is on the receipt and save the paper--and usually the owner can do oil changes and stuff and save the receipts for the oil & filter. If you want, do it all, photograph and document what was done, and save those. *My state, at least, has licensed motor vehicle repair shops. See if yours does. |
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