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Title: Baffle, Stock Muffler and other Option Post by FreeSpirit on 09/06/09 at 22:35:49 What will happen if I take the baffle out of my Stock muffler? I know it would be louder,but how much louder? Would I have to change anything else? Would just drilling holes be better? I want all/ any details,please. I did a search here,spent over an hour reading posts and still didnt see anything on this! I really would like a better sounding muffler,but where I didnt have to change anything else...if that's possible. Also what did this person do to their muffler????? It sounds good enough to me! But dont have a clue what they did. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z3gFY8NXVY&NR=1 Thanks, any help/ideas would be good! |
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Title: Re: Baffle, Stock Muffler and other Option Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/06/09 at 22:57:10 If you screw the muffler up, youll be needing a muffler. Why not drop a few bucks & get a Dyna? |
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Title: Re: Baffle, Stock Muffler and other Option Post by FreeSpirit on 09/06/09 at 23:15:53 Do you need to rejet,etc if you get a dyna? |
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Title: Re: Baffle, Stock Muffler and other Option Post by verslagen1 on 09/06/09 at 23:27:50 you would need to rejet if you removed the stock baffle. yes most likely |
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Title: Re: Baffle, Stock Muffler and other Option Post by Routy on 09/07/09 at 05:59:10 That looked like a HD muffler. I drilled (8 7/32 holes) my stock muffler and I like it. Idle sounds really nice. It backraps a little when shifting, and its not obnoxiously loud. Rich |
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Title: Re: Baffle, Stock Muffler and other Option Post by Midnightrider on 09/07/09 at 07:50:19 You dont have to jet with a Supertrapp Muffler but they are expensive. I love the sound of mine. A nice low rumble but not loud enough to annoy anyone. |
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Title: Re: Baffle, Stock Muffler and other Option Post by prechermike on 09/07/09 at 08:00:58 I know that all bikes are different, but when I put the dyna on mine, I did not have to rejet. I had already done the while spacer mod and just needed to adjust the idle mixture screw a little. Mine does have a little gurgle when I slow down. |
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Title: Re: Baffle, Stock Muffler and other Option Post by FreeSpirit on 09/07/09 at 09:45:20 Thanks guys, maybe if I understood the reason for re-jeting,it would help more.(which I will google and see if I can find/understand why) The very end of my muffler has quite a bit of rust,so I may have to replace it (with a stock or different one )one day in the near future anyway. And one problem I get is...a few guys locally try to tell me what to do,muffler-wise,but I dont feel they know the Savage that well.Because it dosent sound right according to what I read in the forum. :-/ (I think they're use to Harleys!) |
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Title: Re: Baffle, Stock Muffler and other Option Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/07/09 at 09:55:55 The reason we rejet is, the bike is set up to run lean, from the factory. My understanding is that its done like that to help the bike get thru certain EPA requirements. Some older models had reasonable jetting from the factory, back before the EPA requirements. Running lean, as it does, makes it run hotter & decreases performance & makes it backfire & just generally isnt okay, so, we rejet, even if leaving the exhaust stock. Now, you go a diddlin with the way it breathes & getting the airflow thru the motor working smoother & faster, that will lean it out some MOre, so ya sure gotta rejet, then. IDK how the Dyna flows compared to the stock unit, but, unless its old enough to be jetted right, it needs rejeted. Even if you leave the stock exhaust. |
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Title: Re: Baffle, Stock Muffler and other Option Post by FreeSpirit on 09/07/09 at 10:08:38 Thanks Justin! Very good explanation! Mine is a 2002. Not sure what year Prechermike's is! Maybe he'll see this and tell me/us. And another thing...I really dont know what the original owner did to the bike before I got it! Another guy bought it from the him and kept it maybe a month or two before I bought it. He didnt tell me anything,if he even knew. :-/ All I know is it looked really good...like someone had taken care of it. |
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Title: Re: Baffle, Stock Muffler and other Option Post by prechermike on 09/07/09 at 10:38:04 OK, I get the message, I added the information in my signuature line. 1987 Savage, white spacer mod, dyna muffler. other than that it is all stock as far as I know. I am right about sea level on the North Carolina coast. What else you want to know? :D |
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Title: Re: Baffle, Stock Muffler and other Option Post by FreeSpirit on 09/07/09 at 11:17:37 Prechermike....I just had a feeling yours may be older than mine...the reason you didnt need to rejet. After reading Justins post/info. But I do think its good to have the year of the bike in the signature....so now I'll have to do that myself. ;) Thanks for the info! BTW-great mileage for the year of bike! If that's original miles. :-/ |
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Title: Re: Baffle, Stock Muffler and other Option Post by prechermike on 09/07/09 at 11:40:31 As far as I know it is original. |
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Title: Re: Baffle, Stock Muffler and other Option Post by boofer on 09/07/09 at 20:10:34 FreeSpirit, After about a week on my 2001 I noticed a screw wedged into the stock muffler end. I removed it and the little 3/4"x4" baffle slid out. It sounds better at idle. What I intend to do is get someone to ride away from me to see if I like it. It's hard to tell what others hear when riding. Plan B (And I would appreciate comments on this.) I want to drill two 1/4" holes 180 degrees apart in the round plate and see what happens. I want to continue drilling until I mess up or get what I want. I think I could then force slightly larger screws back into these holes if needed. Comments please. Am I headed in the wrong direction? Boofer |
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Title: Re: Baffle, Stock Muffler and other Option Post by FreeSpirit on 09/08/09 at 00:22:54 Boofer,did you rejet? Or are you planning to? Hope someone can answer your question! Ya know I didnt notice until just now,but the video(link) above that I posted says "Savage with "hartman-like" mod done to muffler " I like the sound of it! Not too loud but good. |
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Title: Re: Baffle, Stock Muffler and other Option Post by John_D on 09/08/09 at 01:30:48 353A203B27213230383621530 wrote:
It kinda looks like the stock muffler to me, with the end plate removed. Might be some internal mods too, but of course we can't see those. :D |
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Title: Re: Baffle, Stock Muffler and other Option Post by FreeSpirit on 09/08/09 at 19:00:29 John _D....did you read my last post? It is a Stock muffler with modification.Read my last post before this one. ;) I also found online how to do it...easy search,but to me,not a easy job...LOL....maybe easy for a guy. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Also...to anyone... If you re-jet does that mean just the main jet? Or could you just do the main jet only? :-/ Would that be sufficient? |
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Title: Re: Baffle, Stock Muffler and other Option Post by boofer on 09/08/09 at 20:35:41 FreeSpirit, To answer your earlier question I am running stock jets, airfilter, and 87 octane Exxon or Bp gas. (BTW, do ya'll ever argue about what gas to use like we do about oil?LOL) There seems to be some stumbling at night with cool moist air, but I never ride at night unless I get caught out. It may totally freak out this winter with cold and moisture, so I can't advise you. My "baffle pull" can easily be reversed, and if I drill holes I can fill them back up. Boofer |
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Title: Re: Baffle, Stock Muffler and other Option Post by flcruzr on 09/08/09 at 20:38:45 For what its worth, I drilled 1/2 inch hole in the middle plate of my stock pipe using a 12 inch long drill bit and 3 small 1/4 inch holes in the back plate. This gave me a much better rumble than stock. It doesnt sound like a harley but it sounds much better than stock. |
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Title: Re: Baffle, Stock Muffler and other Option Post by FreeSpirit on 09/08/09 at 21:40:37 373D3223242B23510 wrote:
Thanks,And did you re-jet? |
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Title: Re: Baffle, Stock Muffler and other Option Post by flcruzr on 09/09/09 at 17:43:50 685C4B4B7D5E475C475A2E0 wrote:
Thanks,And did you re-jet?[/quote] No I did not, all stock and runs fine. I get the occasional backfire but nothing annoying. |
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Title: Re: Baffle, Stock Muffler and other Option Post by FreeSpirit on 09/09/09 at 18:58:31 58525D4C4B444C3E0 wrote:
Thanks,And did you re-jet?[/quote] No I did not, all stock and runs fine. I get the occasional backfire but nothing annoying.[/quote] You have pictures of what you did? I'd love to see it! |
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