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Message started by Mattdw on 09/02/09 at 11:16:33

Title: Most versatile torque wrench?
Post by Mattdw on 09/02/09 at 11:16:33

Looking at the torque specs in the service manual...seems like this wrench should be fine...

3/8" drive
Locking "Micrometer" Style Adjustment
Nickel Plated Chrome Alloy Steel
Reversible Ratchet
60-960 Inch Pound Or 5-80 Foot Pound Torque Range

Price is $29.00 including shipping...seems reasonable

Am I on the right track as I'm planning on tackling the head plug cap leak and adjusting valves and decomp solenoid while in there?

Title: Re: Most versatile torque wrench?
Post by Savage_Amusement on 09/02/09 at 11:40:40

Be VERY VERY careful when torquing the head bolts I had one twist off but luckily didn't break off inside so I could still get it out. I didn't even have the value set at the recommended yet either.

Title: Re: Most versatile torque wrench?
Post by PTRider on 09/02/09 at 11:46:46

A cheap wrench like that may not be OK if it is not consistent. I'm not concerned as much about the absolute accuracy as with consistency. If it is 5% high or low doesn't matter to me. If it is 20% high one time and 20% low the next time, or doesn't release at all, it's junk. I'd buy one that cheap for lug nuts on my truck (but the 1/2" size), but not for engine work in aluminum threads.

Title: Re: Most versatile torque wrench?
Post by Oldnewguy on 09/02/09 at 14:53:32

I just spent $75.00 apiece for Craftsman in/lbs and ft/lbs. I would say be very careful with a $29.00 "Saturday night special"

Title: Re: Most versatile torque wrench?
Post by bill67 on 09/02/09 at 15:04:21

I got a $12 torque wrench,,Check it with a high priced one,They were 2 pounds differenced at 50 pounds,I really don't know which one is right.

Title: Re: Most versatile torque wrench?
Post by Boule’tard on 09/02/09 at 18:59:55

I got the 3/8 drive "Industrial Torque Wrench" from northerntool. For a $40 wrench it seems to have an unusual good reputation. The range is 5-80 ft.lbs., it's reversible.. meets all the specs needed for the Savage.

I'd post a link to it but I already got this stupid warning "one more suspicious URL and you're BANNED, SPAMMER" just for previewing a post with a craiglist link in it.

Title: Re: Most versatile torque wrench?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/02/09 at 20:20:49

The torque specs in the book are ( as far as I can remember) all with a pretty broad range. ( Example, just a for instance, not out of the book)
Torque : 17-24 foot pounds, heck, doesnt take a great tool to get inside that range. I have a Proto 1/2" I paid a load for, but Its not good for most of the bolts on the bike. I got a 3/8ths beam type from Sears. That should be consistent enough. I havent found a place where it was just too clunky to get in there, so far..

Title: Re: Most versatile torque wrench?
Post by drharveys on 09/02/09 at 20:24:49

Gotta get a TORK-GRIP. It's the bicycle nut's secret weapon!

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/tork-grip.html

Title: Re: Most versatile torque wrench?
Post by Skid Mark on 09/02/09 at 21:26:48

;D ;D

Title: Re: Most versatile torque wrench?
Post by Savage Eddie on 09/02/09 at 22:06:07

Well being a Mechanic by trade i have too (of course) buy the best tools i can get my hands on. I recently got the Snap on digital 3/8 torque wrench and i got to tell ya...holy crap, this thing is awesome! it does it all!
Snap on has the patent on the degrees function and until it passes.... plan on dumping $439.00 bucks!!

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/7834/img66032hg.jpg

Title: Re: Most versatile torque wrench?
Post by LANCER on 09/03/09 at 04:46:09

4A4B4B464A2F0 wrote:

ouch

Title: Re: Most versatile torque wrench?
Post by Skid Mark on 09/03/09 at 15:37:15

Can you play a tune on it, like on a set of snapon wrenches.
I think snap-on makes fantastic tool. Slim, comfortable, great warranty, but god you pay for it.
I found craftsman gives be best value. Especially when Sears has a sale on!!!

Title: Re: Most versatile torque wrench?
Post by drharveys on 09/03/09 at 16:05:38

That thing costs more than the miniature torque wrenches I use for dental implants! Of course, it is a lot bigger... ;D

Title: Re: Most versatile torque wrench?
Post by John_D on 09/03/09 at 21:48:07

50465C554642514D47340 wrote:

That thing costs more than the miniature torque wrenches I use for dental implants! Of course, it is a lot bigger... ;D

;D That's surprising. Usually, the more something's minitiarized, the more it costs! ::)

Title: Re: Most versatile torque wrench?
Post by Digger on 12/08/09 at 19:44:13

50594A55585C4952533D0 wrote:

Looking at the torque specs in the service manual...seems like this wrench should be fine...

3/8" drive
Locking "Micrometer" Style Adjustment
Nickel Plated Chrome Alloy Steel
Reversible Ratchet
60-960 Inch Pound Or 5-80 Foot Pound Torque Range

Price is $29.00 including shipping...seems reasonable

Am I on the right track as I'm planning on tackling the head plug cap leak and adjusting valves and decomp solenoid while in there?

Matt,

As a general rule of thumb, you should try to stay in the middle 60% of a torque wrench's range to get the most accuracy out of it.

Some of the most critical torques on this bike are those for the cylinder head cover bolts. The book calls for a torque of 6-8.5 ft-lbs on those. For these bolts, I use a 0-200 in-lb torque wrench.

If it were me, I'd not use a 5-80 ft-lb torque wrench on the cylinder head cover bolts.

FWIW....

Title: Re: Most versatile torque wrench?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/08/09 at 21:17:32

Considering the torque ranges I see in the manual, I think a beam type torque wrench is well within the needs of this bike. A beam may be off some, but its consistent.

Title: Re: Most versatile torque wrench?
Post by John_D on 12/09/09 at 01:27:25

485751564B4C7D4D7D45575B10220 wrote:

Considering the torque ranges I see in the manual, I think a beam type torque wrench is well within the needs of this bike. A beam may be off some, but its consistent.

The beam types may be a little harder to read in tight locations, but it'd be more versatile. You can use them to read moving resistance, or whatever the technical term is, which you can't with the "click" type.

Title: Re: Most versatile torque wrench?
Post by Digger on 01/02/10 at 20:09:02

4453525853555D0104070604360 wrote:

.....The beam types may be a little harder to read in tight locations...

I like beam-type torque wrenches. Cheaper and no "smoke and mirrors" to depend on.

Here's what I do to make mine easier to read in tight conditions:

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee201/Digger109/TapeonTorqueWrenchScaleE.jpg

I just place a bit of masking tape on the scale at the torque I'm targeting. It's a lot easier to see when the pointer gets to the edge of the tape than it is to see when the pointer gets to a mere mark on the scale.

IHTH someone!

Title: Re: Most versatile torque wrench?
Post by False Illusion on 01/02/10 at 20:27:26

Man...that's a great idea, Digger...thanks!

Title: Re: Most versatile torque wrench?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/02/10 at 23:35:47

If its critical I not Over Torque one, I drill the number plate & put a pin in to stop the needle from passing the torque setting I want, then I can pull as hard as I want & itll never go past the right torque.. yep, thats how it works allright..

Title: Re: Most versatile torque wrench?
Post by Oldfeller on 01/05/10 at 12:36:03

Like Digger, I prefer a beam type as you can see what is going on when doing a head torque pull up. You can see and feel the fastener "grab" and not rotate freely, so you know to stop and unscrew and lube it so as to get accurate pull up torque reading.

Justin is pulling your leg, of course -- just he left off his ;D :o faces.