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Message started by MMRanch on 08/29/09 at 21:15:08

Title: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by MMRanch on 08/29/09 at 21:15:08

HI KEL

STARTED A NEW POST, THANKS

I DON'T REMEMBER WHERE I GOT THE B.F. GOODRICH RADIAL T/A P155/80/15 THAT I HAVE NOW AND TOOK TO THE DRAGON . BUT I DO REMEMBER HOW I FOUND IT...
I TYPED IN THE TIRE SIZE ON GOOGLE SEARCH.
THERE WAS A 155/60/15 FOR THE SAME PRICE BUT IT IS A SHORTER TIRE AND WE HAVE A RPM PROBLEM AT INTERSTATE SPEEDS ANYWAY. THE 80 SERIES IS ALLMOST TOO TALL (LESS THAT AN INCH CLEARENCE AT THE FRONT OF THE SWING ARM.

I RODE LANCERS BIKE ONCE AND IT HAD TALLER SHOCKS ON THE BACK. IT HANDLED LIGHTER AND QUICKER. TALLER BACK END CUT SOME OF THE RAKE OFF THE FRONT. I'LL BE GUILTY OF TAKING A LESSON LEARNED ON THAT ONE. SOME OF TH SPORTSTERS HAVE LONGER LIGHT SPRUNG SHOCKS... EVEN WITH THE EXTRA GROUND CLEARENCE I STILL TOUCHED A PEG AT THE DRAGON A COUPLE OF TIMES....SOMETHING ABOUT THOSE LOW SPEED LONG CURVES ARE SO TEMPTING. I'LL GO BACK NEXT YEAR TOO, EVEN IF I HAVE TO RENT A BIKE TO GO ON.

THE FIRST DARKSIDE TIRE I HAD WAS A MITCHLLEN FROM COOKER TIRE IN CHATTANOOGA. IT WAS A MITCHLLEN SR145/15 AND IT TOOK 90+ LBS TO SEAT IT AND THEN IT RODE LIKE IT HAD SQUARE CORRNERS (WHICH IT DID) TOOK SOME GETTING USED TO. AFTER 10,000 MILES OR SO THE TREAD LOOKED GOOD BUT THE SIDEWALL STARTED SEPERATING FOR THE CORDS , IT WOULDN'T SUPPRISE ME IF THAT 90+ LBS. TO SEAT IT HADE SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT.

KEEP US POSTED

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/29/09 at 21:39:06

Man,, whats with the all caps?

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by Savage_Amusement on 08/29/09 at 22:08:27

He's excited.

Savage site's billy mays.

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/29/09 at 23:32:06

My mute button took care of ol Billy..

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by Toymaker on 08/30/09 at 05:06:00

Hey Guys, Leave 'em alone...he's cool, but you should have had his cookin' at the dragon. Hey, MM Ranch, the T/A rides better, doesn't it? I think the trick with darksiders is make sure it has a rounded should.???

OF......help me out here.

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/30/09 at 05:15:35

I went & checked out the Darkside essay. That guy has some miles on them. I know OF has been running them a long time. Just so happens its time for fresh rubber on the back of mine. I'd want a pretty tall tire back there. Narrow as can be found, ( I think). Anyone have a source?

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by kel30734 on 08/30/09 at 09:04:05

I found one for 66.11 BF Goodrich Radial T/A P155/80R15 83S RAD TA RWL
MMRanch did you have to get taller shocks for that tire?

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by Roadie on 08/30/09 at 15:22:07

It a regular motorcycle tire lasts around 8 to 10 k (optimally and light use) you're not doing much better on a dark side it sounds like. If you're seein' cords it's shot... so why bother outside of cost?

I like my tread to wrap around....

My .02

-Roadie

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by MMRanch on 08/30/09 at 20:02:58

I had the taller shocks befor the tall tire.....Lancer did me a real favor by letting me ride his bike.

That first Dunlap darkside tire didn't work out to good but the GoodRich T/A is another story (one with a happy ending).

Thank for the complempent ToyMaker, I hope to do as well next year.

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by Oldfeller on 08/31/09 at 08:31:39

Roadie, he's riding a 700 pound honda flat-six to get his 8,000 10,000 miles.

(he used to get what ?? 4,000 miles with m/c tires ??)

We literally don't know yet how many darkside miles we will get on our Savages yet, but it will likely be somewhere between 15,000 miles and 20,000 miles.

MMRanch will get higher in that range because his TA Goodrich has deeper thread on it compared to my original chung fooie tire (which is about half worn out now after years and years of roaring squirrels and other intentional abuse (like leaving a nasty 50 ft black streak down Toymaker's long concrete driveway, hee hee hee)

You need to read up some on the actual experiences of Savage riders instead of relying on Honda flat six guys for your total mileage picture.

Besides, where are you getting 8-10 miles on the rear tire of a Savage? I got 5.6 thousand off the original IRC rear tire and folks paying $130 for a premium Metzler rear tire really aren't getting a consistent 10,000 miles out of them. Most of us only get an averaged 8-9,000 miles out of a premium rear tire and it is not unusual for list members to have to change out their rear tire every year and a half. And many of us cannot afford to buy Metzler tires -- we are Dunlop or less sort of people.

Darkside tires cost much much less. Darkside tires do not give up grip or handling, either. We prove this every year at Dragon run time.

We are constantly amazed at the number of folks who still can't understand the mechanics behind how a m/c tire and a car tire go about gripping the road and what a contact patch means and how they continue to think a round dead soft treaded tire is the only way things can work.

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1181496112/15#16

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Kel, the worst you will have to do to make the tire fit is change the bolts inside your fender to flat or rounded head bolts. You do not have to get the taller shocks unless you want to for leg clearance reasons.

I run stock shocks and I have a taller and wider tire than MMRanch does.

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Toymaker, sorry I was late to the party. New job involves some consecutive 12 hr days on the weekends and I find I am reading and posting on my irregular days off more often than not. Plus my knee is feeling better and I am beginning to work on trying to get my bike back together after getting rear ended in a parking space.

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/31/09 at 09:22:10

So, I walk in the tire store & tell the guy " I need a BF Greatrich (Yea, thats right, theyre better than just "Good") T/A P155/80/15.

Are they gonna ask me questions or are they gonna round up the rubber & hand it over?

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by kel30734 on 08/31/09 at 09:30:40

Good deal on the Shocks.... Just need to buy a tire.
I have had the bike since July 06 had 2,100 miles now I am approaching 22,000
I am replacing my back tire every year
Have had the stock
IRC 7.5K
D404 about 9k
and the current Dunlop k??? whatever it is
I put it on in November of last year now it is slick.

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by kel30734 on 08/31/09 at 09:33:51

445B5D5A4740714171495B571C2E0 wrote:

Yep it ain't like your buying a gun. none of there business unless you are using rupee's

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by Oldfeller on 08/31/09 at 09:40:00

Simply tell them you think you need to replace the spare tire on you daughter's 1964 VW Beetle because you noticed it was not holding air very well due to age.

In other words, prevaricate.

They have to ask you what you are putting it on because there is a legal requirement to for them to make sure the tire matches the speed rating and such for the vehicle you plan to put it on.

Your Savage will go 90mph tops in stock format. The VW tires we are using are rated for 120 mph at a much much heavier load than the entire bike and you can put on it. Read up on the tire you plan to get at TIRERACK.COM -- the very best place to find the tire you need.

Take care when mounting the tire to use LOTS of lube and if it won't pop on to the rim at less than 90 psi, stop, deflate it and relube it and try try again. The tire stretches a bit more at each attempt and eventually it will go on.

Or, as some of us do you can remove some of the unneccessary inner lip rubber with a sharp knife as you are using a tube to contain the air pressure anyway and you don't need that long thin trailing lip of rubber anyway. It just gets in the way of mounting the tire.

LEAVE THE BEAD PORTION ALONE -- you will be using that.

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by kel30734 on 08/31/09 at 09:46:53

Oh My mistake on them asking questions......... still I would not use any Rupee's

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by verslagen1 on 08/31/09 at 09:52:08

Tell 'm you're replacing the spare on a '64 beetle cause some stuffed mj in it the last time you went across the border and you can't get the smell out.

It'll have 'm laughin' so hard there'll be no further questions. ;D

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by kel30734 on 08/31/09 at 09:56:11

657661607F7274767D22130 wrote:

MaryJane or Micheal Jackson....

One smells better than the other.... both will get you high

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/31/09 at 11:13:44

Thanks Ol'Feller. Im gonna do it this time. Im sick of the $$$ & the 5 or 6,000 mile rides on the 100 + Dollar tires. Remember, we almost always toss a new tube in when changing the tire. If I get 30,000 out of it, Ill save the cost of 4 tubes, if I would get 6,000 miles out of a M/C tire.Heck, thats over $50.00, IIRC.

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by Oldfeller on 08/31/09 at 11:57:58

Justin, do you mean ol' Freddie doesn't get to sing to you any more?

He'll be right disappointed, you know that don't you?

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Freddie Mercury just lives to sing his special m/c tire song to stubborn people putting yet another expensive m/c tire on the back of their Savage ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNQRfBAzSzo

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All you newbies, you don't worry. Freddie won't sing to you until you have been around here on the list long enough to KNOW better, but to still have gone ahead and dropped yet another $130 plus dollars on a short lived m/c tire ....

... and doing it again

.... and again .....

.... and again .....

.... and again .....

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by verslagen1 on 08/31/09 at 12:30:58

You got one that'll work in a 16" mag wheel?

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by Duane on 08/31/09 at 12:39:57

I need to see a picture of this.

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by Gary On A Savage on 08/31/09 at 13:23:38

6340484A494040495E2C0 wrote:

Justin, do you mean ol' Freddie doesn't get to sing to you any more?

He'll be right disappointed, you know that don't you?

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Freddie Mercury just lives to sing his special m/c tire song to stubborn people putting yet another expensive m/c tire on the back of their Savage ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNQRfBAzSzo

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All you newbies, you don't worry. Freddie won't sing to you until you have been around here on the list long enough to KNOW better, but to still gone ahead and drop yet another $130 plus dollars on a short lived m/c tire .... and doing it again

.... and again .....

.... and again .....

.... and again .....

Oh man! Don't watch that after eating.... Seeing Freddie prancing around in that hat.... (RRRAAAALLLPPPHHH!!!)

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by bill67 on 08/31/09 at 13:47:43

Pirelli Route 66 $85 delivered to your door,The less unsprung weight your tire is the better the ride,Also comes with rounded corners.

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by Oldfeller on 08/31/09 at 13:48:58

Freddy sure was a fa ggot's fa ggot, that's for sure. And I never was really sure what the song originally meant, either.

But them lyrics sure do line up good with somebody doing something stupid time after time .... after time .... after time.

"and yet another one bites the dust, hey ... hey ...

and another one's gone, and another one's gone

and YET ANOTHER ONE bites the dust ...."

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When Freddy sings to you -- you know you are doing something stupid.

and our little list censorship program sure does hate the word "f*g**t" doesn't it?

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by verslagen1 on 08/31/09 at 14:29:24

That was the wife's choice at a wedding reception of a friend.

No, the marriage didn't last long.

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by verslagen1 on 08/31/09 at 14:30:59

6A646D3231363235010 wrote:

MaryJane or Micheal Jackson....

Jaunita, no relation to jane or jackson ;D

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by Dj12midnit on 08/31/09 at 23:19:56

I got a little over 10,000 on the oem. The rear is starting to get a little on the thinner side.

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by Oldfeller on 09/01/09 at 07:18:12

I theorize that people who can get 10,000 on a stock IRC must not 1) accelerate very hard or 2) use their brakes very much.

I bet their clutches and brake pads last forever too.

We need to start a new sub-club "Tire Abusers Anonymous" and we'll get old "smoke 'um if you got 'um" Sluggo to chair the meetings.

"My name is Kelly, and I am a tire abuser"

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by runwyrlph on 09/01/09 at 10:55:39

my stock rear tire was still doing fine at 3800mi, except the the air started showing through! ;D

(apologies to hank )

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by kel30734 on 09/01/09 at 12:14:31

4C6F6765666F6F6671030 wrote:

"My name is Kelly, and I am a tire abuser"

DITTO

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by MMRanch on 09/01/09 at 19:16:14

I admit it.

My Dunlap 404 only lasted 6,000 miles or so.

I must be an abuser too. I'm trying to do better.

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/01/09 at 19:25:14

My Dunlop 404 lasted about 6,000 too. I didnt even realize how tired it is toll a few days ago. Not quite shot, but it wont pass inspection, thats fer sure,.

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by BurnPgh on 09/01/09 at 23:13:21

6k seems abotu right for the 404's. Got my bike with 404's at 9k mi. At 15k mi it was at or very near replacement time.

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by Toymaker on 09/02/09 at 02:22:29

Even on my Kawi, the 404 only lasted 6k. I put metz's on and will go darkside at next tire change.

www.TIRERACK.com is the place, boy and girls

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by John_D on 09/02/09 at 02:42:23

4C6F6765666F6F6671030 wrote:

Well, I'm not up to 10,000 but I have passed 7,000. I did however have to replace the front brake pads, they were well and truly shot. I try to go easy on the rear, simply because the front looks so much easier to replace! :D And I'm not exactly easy on the acceleration always, but I guess I've never broke it loose either, so eh... :-?

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/02/09 at 10:04:00

Since I am about to go buy a tire, Id sure like some suggestions on which one. The guys with the experience? Yea, Id like to hear recommendations. I want a tall tire, I weigh about 160, keep the shocks on the stiffest setting. I use it to haul groceries & or beer & occasionally make a corner close enough to "Right" to actually feel the G forces drive me firmly onto the seat. But, I dont expect I am actually compressing the shocks 1/2"

Swapping bolts is no problem.If recommended, Ill do it.

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by Oldfeller on 09/02/09 at 12:05:54

Ol' Barry Blowup done taught me my lesson about recommending tire stuff to anybody as the skill levels of individuals varies greatly. You are doing this at your own risk.

However, I can tell you what to avoid -- do not go any bigger than 155-80r15.

The reasons are many, but the ones that stick out the most is that bigger than that won't fit without excess amount of work removing bolt heads, etc. It also aggravates the potential issues with rumba and other excessive tire size high speed running issues. Just don't go there and simply avoid those hassles.

No one has reported high speed running issues with 155 or smaller tires -- no one. That cannot be said for the 165 tire size and up.

Next, watch your back when wrasslin' it on (them slipped spoons can hurt when they smack you) and don't go over 90 psi when popping the bead. Use a fresh inner tube (it is gonna be on there 4-5 years so you don't want to have to put up with a sorry leaky tube the whole time).

Take the time to tune your spokes to get your wheel/rim round and true again after tire assembly and inflation and DO REMEMBER to weight balance the assembled tire/wheel.

Don't go over 35 lbs of running air pressure. Don't go less than 30 lbs unless you are experimenting on purpose as a soft mushy rear tire rides quite differently from a 30-35 psi tire.

Jack your rear shock preload up to the highest preload position to maximize your bump clearance.

Remember, riding the tire the first time can result in conflicts between what you had in your "internal ride balance computer" stored in your primitive brain stem and the new reality. Your bike will run and handle slightly differently.

It can take a week or so to reprogram yourself and regain confidence. Carry spare underwear with you during this period of time as your old programming will cause your sphincter to malfunction unnecessarily several times going over bumps, etc.

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/02/09 at 20:24:35

I wouldnt consider it a recommendation, just another to consider, what are you running again?

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/03/09 at 01:43:15

Ats awwrite OF, I really dont think Id want a wider tire than necessary, Taller, yea, if it wouldnt cause clearance issues.

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by serenity3743 on 09/03/09 at 08:03:49

Why do we call car tires "Darksides"?

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by youzguyz on 09/03/09 at 10:38:47

392F382F24233E33797D7E794A0 wrote:

Why do we call car tires "Darksides"?

I really don't want to ask how old you are.. but.. may the force be with you.

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by serenity3743 on 09/03/09 at 13:17:49

I'm plenty old enough, but have not been much of a Star Wars fan. Do I have to watch all the movies to find the hidden meaning?

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by youzguyz on 09/03/09 at 14:12:06

Not really any hidden meaning. "Going to the Darkside" on anything pretty much means the same thing as "leaving the beaten path", but with "evil" overtones. Using car tires on motorcycle isn't considered to be "normal", and using them could be construed as "evil" (or at least non-comformist) and, therefore, they are Darkside tires.

That was a lame explanation.. but I tried!

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by Oldfeller on 09/03/09 at 14:24:48

Plus apparently once you go over to car tires you tend not to go back to normal tires.

Part of this is waiting and waiting and waiting for that first darkside tire to wear out ....

(I'm still waiting and it isn't half worn out yet .... )

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Master Yoda, when will I be a Jedi Knight?

Patience, young paduwan -- you must first wear out your rear tire.

Master, how long did it take you to do that?

Huh (gumble-mumble-grumble), I was a youth like you when I started -- middle aged was I when I completed the task. A cam chain adjuster, one cam chain and three sets of front pads was I trying to wear out that first tire.

How long was that in years, master?

Long it was, a third of my lifetime it took.

Master, how old are you now?

374 years old.

*** !!!?!

Aaaauuuugh !!!

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by serenity3743 on 09/04/09 at 04:49:32

Thank you for the explanations!

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/04/09 at 10:01:39

Called the local Tire Shop & ordered a BF Goodrich 155/80/15..pick it up today.

I wunner if it would be okay to ride in & get it..Yeaaa, They think its for a friends Veedub.I think Ill ride up & grab it..

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by verslagen1 on 09/04/09 at 11:05:26

just don't ride in and ask to borrow a couple of tire irons too.

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by boofer on 09/04/09 at 22:46:47

Hello, I installed tires for 2 years and sold them for about 12. BFG, Remington (Dunlop), General, Michelin, etc. If you wanted it we did it. As long as it wasn't just dangerous. I am conscientous and warned some people about what they were doing in the name of "looks". I saw a teen running 20lbs in his car tires because they looked good to him.
I LOVE the look of darkside tires, but have NO experience with them.

Here is what I know about car tires.
Example: 155/80R15 86H
155 mm wide (section width) Michelin and General usually a little wider.
80 aspect ratio The sidewall from bead to ground is 80% of section width.
R means radial ply as opposed to bias ply
15 means 15" rim. Also rim width has a lot to do with performance and longevity. Narrow rim or too much air rounds tread and wears middle. Wide rim or too little air wears outer edges of tread.
86 is basically load index. Usually the larger tires in same brand have a higher load index. Remember, Suburbans and Tahoes are heavy.
H is sustained speed rating. Usually they are designed for better handling also. (Tread pattern, nylon overbands to keep it round at speed, softer compounds, a little less mileage, but that has improved greatly).
I remember selling 155sr15 tires for Beetles and front tires for drag racing. I need to research those and check dimensions. Car tires are definitely not overloaded on the Savage.

Now, how about darkside FRONT tires? Been done? Boofer

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by Oldfeller on 09/05/09 at 00:14:55

No, not done.

Any potential advantage of a darkside front is not known because we have no 19 inch auto tire that is of a physical format suitable to replace the front motorcycle tire.

Best we have done for the Savage is to identify some Chen Sheng rip offs of an old BMW touring bike Metzler design that offered an old style hard rubber long mileage touring design. For cheap.

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Boofer, please don't start out too all fired enthusiastic about Darkside tires -- start out all skeptical instead and get slowly converted by hard evidence against your better judgment.

It is safer that way.

You got to savor the experience a while, roll it around in your mouth and let your taste buds slowly report all the nuances.

Remember, when we see someone jump in all enthusiastic-like it reminds us of young Barry Blowup, a young man that showed us that folks can read a somber discussion (skimming just the surface) and then run go do some amazingly silly stuff based off of what little bit he had read.

He never read that putting 175 pounds of air in a tire causes it to blow up like a stick of dynamite. So he did it.

He never read that "sticking your bead" with spray truck bed liner stuff is a bad thing to do. So he did it.

He didn't know about having to lubricate the bead to get it to seat, and NEVER going past 90 psi to seat the bead of a tire.

He didn't understand about tubes, spoke heads, rim strips and spoons.

Barry was either a troll who spun us a complete tall tale of his personal tire mounting disaster or he was an eternal warning against enthusiasm in the realm of tires and tire mounting.

You takes your pick.

And here you come, all enthusiastic asking us about darkside front tires. You are going to upset our robot with questions like that.

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"Warning, Boofer Robinson -- Warning"

<with lights flashing and arms waving>

"Danger, Boofer Robinson -- lack of knowledge is Dangerous"

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/05/09 at 00:19:13

lack of knowledge is Dangerous"

Huh,, I did not know that....

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by Oldfeller on 09/05/09 at 00:31:57

duh ....

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by Oldfeller on 09/05/09 at 00:33:23

Justin, what are you doing up at 3:30 in the AM?

I've got to get ready for work, what's your excuse?

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by boofer on 09/05/09 at 00:43:32

Oldfeller,
Don't worry about me and darksiders. I just love the way they LOOK. I am a long way from replacing my IRCs, and I will probably use Dunlop K555 rear and D404 front. I used Dunlop many years ago on Kawi 500 and 750 triple two strokes. I know Metzlers are good tires from experience. I'm looking at an Me 880 possibly for the rear. I can assure you I will use stock sizes on both ends. I like the IRCs and may even go back with them. My options are open, and at age 56 I don't rush in to spending money I don't have or using a product not suited to safety. Someone on here stated it's not good to buy high mileage tires that will dry rot before you get to use them up. Great advice when taken with riding habits and safety in mind also. Sorry to upset your robot. I am here to help younger riders with my experience, not to cheer them on toward the cliff. Boofer

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by Oldfeller on 09/05/09 at 01:44:00

IRCs are fine for those folks who can ride them until they dry rot.

Tire usage is a function of miles ridden and your riding style. My IRC didn't make 6,000 miles so I am not the one to tell you how to get them to last that long.

I kinda sensed you were sp-Boofering us a bit with the question you asked and yes, there is a cliff out there for the Barrys among us to fall off of.

And yes, by all means let's keep the Barrys away from the cliff edge ...

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by Toymaker on 09/05/09 at 05:51:06

Yes, let's not send some poor "barry" to his cliff. However, I AM going darkside on my Vulcan and Savage when the tires go.

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/05/09 at 09:39:34

0D2E2624272E2E2730420 wrote:

Justin, what are you doing up at 3:30 in the AM?

I've got to get ready for work, what's your excuse?

I just cant sleep sometimes, Oldie. Dang, up that early to get ready for work? What do you do?

lack of knowledge is Dangerous"

Huh,, I did not know that....

Comedic attempt.. ;)

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by ralfyguy on 09/05/09 at 16:06:14

2729207F7C7B7F784C0 wrote:

Just a quick question on the side: I have an '06 as well, approaching 11,000 miles on it. Have you done anything to the cam tensioner yet?
Again don't mean to hijack this thread, just curious.

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by Oldfeller on 09/06/09 at 02:28:57

Cam adjusters -- I have two paths to take on that. I cut up some copper to make an experimental hydraulic anti-reverse full travel unit that is unproven at this time and I welded me up a purely mechanical Verslavy unit that is a well proven technology and is known to work well.

When the cover comes off, I will put one in.

I won't do anything to mine until winter shut down time, by then I'll have me a Lancer stage 2 cam in and enough time to play around with it.

Right now I am playing with "fix the speed wobble", my latest technological challenge.

Stealing threads is a well accepted activity on this board, as they always start with an honest question.

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by kel30734 on 10/27/09 at 09:15:41

Just found thiese Pics I scarfed from a website....
Recgonize any one.... WOW thats a darkside tire ripping up on the Dragon.....
http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2009/10/27/bikepics-1815475-800.jpg

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/27/09 at 11:07:32

Looks to me like hes not skeert.

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by MMRanch on 10/27/09 at 11:52:05

Dang

I had no Idea the crashbar got that close to the pavement ! Thanks for the picture Kel.

Mike

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by Oldfeller on 10/27/09 at 14:32:26

Dang

I had no idea the muffler got that close to the pavement once them footpegs start folding up good ...

http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/back5.JPG

http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/front8.JPG

http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/front81.JPG

Darkside tires do not limit you from taking a turn. They handle just fine once you get used to them.

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by kel30734 on 10/27/09 at 14:39:30

647B7D7A6760516151697B773C0E0 wrote:

Looks to me like hes not skeert.

He just twisted the throttle and said ya'll try and keep up

Title: Re: DARKSIDE TIRES
Post by savagedml on 10/27/09 at 20:21:58

MM is definitely "Leader of the Pack!" 8-)