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Message started by doc5446 on 08/26/09 at 09:33:03

Title: Stranded...
Post by doc5446 on 08/26/09 at 09:33:03

Nothing happens when I push start button...got lights and everything thing else. Is there a fuse just for starter and where at? First prob I ever had with this bike.

Title: Re: Stranded...
Post by prechermike on 08/26/09 at 09:41:51

SInce you are online, just a couple of quick ideas.

Is the kill switch on or off, that has gotten me a couple of times.

Sidestand that has gotten me too.

The only fuses I know about are under the seat, right hand side.

IHTH

Title: Re: Stranded...
Post by verslagen1 on 08/26/09 at 09:43:20

fuse box under right hand edge of seat. You can pull straight back on it and the box will pull out so you can look at it.

Title: Re: Stranded...
Post by Routy on 08/26/09 at 10:02:18

The clutch is what got me,.....but that was the first time I ever went to start the bike :-[

Title: Re: Stranded...
Post by mpescatori on 08/26/09 at 10:11:50

[quote author=2A253F24383E2D2F27293E4C0 link=1251304384/0#3 date=1251306138]The clutch is what got me,.....but that was the first time I ever went to start the bike :-[/quote]

You mean, all the other times you have the Butler start her for you ?

Lucky guy !!! :D :D :D

Title: Re: Stranded...
Post by Serowbot on 08/26/09 at 10:31:02

If it's not one of the safety switches..... try unplugging and then replugging the connectors that run to the clutch and kickstand switches...
I had one lose contact once,... took me forever to figure it out...

Title: Re: Stranded...
Post by clueless on 08/26/09 at 14:32:04

My clutch safety switch acts up mostly when it gets wet. I just pull in the clutch and let it go. Works every time. Don't ease it out, just let it go.

Title: Re: Stranded...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/26/09 at 14:49:10

There are fuses under the seat. Easy to access while the seat is on, IF you know where to look. Theres a spare in the tool box cover( hopefully).

Title: Re: Stranded...
Post by Gary On A Savage on 08/26/09 at 14:50:21

Make sure you have ENOUGH battery if you find nothing else. Sometimes if the battery is down enough, you won't even get a click. Put a battery tester on it if you have one. Jump it if you don't.

Title: Re: Stranded...
Post by doc5446 on 08/27/09 at 07:12:09

Checked the 2 20A fuses and they were fine. Did the pull clutch lever and quick release many times, nothing. Where do I chickity-check next? Lights still dim when I push start button.

Title: Re: Stranded...
Post by photojoe on 08/27/09 at 07:46:00

Had a similar problem last year. Got stranded at night by my place of employment. Having lights kind of threw my off. I had access to a computer and posted my situation here. Had the seat off and checked the fuses/connections. Drove me crazy. Wound up being a dead battery. Called AAA and they gave me a jump which allowed me to ride home.
Quick note: Hit the horn. If it sounds weak, another point for the battery.

These bikes need a lot of juice to get them started, a dying battery won't pull it off.
If you decide to try and jump it, just make sure that the vehicle you're using is turned off. I've read that jumping a bike with a running car/truck may have negative consequences for the bikes electrical system.

Title: Re: Stranded...
Post by verslagen1 on 08/27/09 at 07:47:33

505D475E5744534056410602320 wrote:

Checked the 2 20A fuses and they were fine. Did the pull clutch lever and quick release many times, nothing. Where do I chickity-check next? Lights still dim when I push start button.

You didn't tell us about the lights dimming the 1st time.
What else are you not tellin'?

Hearin' any clicks at all?
Got voltmeter? Otherwise take battery to autozone or the like and get it tested.
Sometimes the starter switch gets dirty too.

Title: Re: Stranded...
Post by photojoe on 08/27/09 at 07:50:52

Agree with V regarding dimming lights. Another point for the battery. If you can't wait, Pep Boys has a battery with specs for our bikes. Have to charge it overnight though.

Title: Re: Stranded...
Post by doc5446 on 08/27/09 at 09:41:54

Thanks for the responses fellas, Ima thinking battery too. It is original battery and its an '05 so maybe I should make the investment.

Title: Re: Stranded...
Post by Reelthing on 08/27/09 at 09:51:21

do you hear the decomp solnd click? and do you have a volt meter?

Title: Re: Stranded...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/27/09 at 10:17:10

If that decomp isnt firing, the starter wont roll over either.
You can stick a hotwire on the wire that fires the decomp timer & bypass all the other stuff that might keep it from starting.
Thats the decomp timer, not solenoid.

Title: Re: Stranded...
Post by verslagen1 on 08/27/09 at 11:05:11

202D372E2734233026317672420 wrote:

Thanks for the responses fellas, Ima thinking battery too. It is original battery and its an '05 so maybe I should make the investment.

4 year old battery, I think it's time for a new one.

Title: Re: Stranded...
Post by doc5446 on 08/28/09 at 09:50:47

77686E6974734272427A68642F1D0 wrote:

got a pic or diagram of where to put hotwire on decomp timer? I topped off battery, gave it full charge and am getting 12.6 volts on voltmeter, so I no longer think it is just battery.

Title: Re: Stranded...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/28/09 at 13:09:55

Id have to look at a wiring diagram, or pull my seat.
Maybe someone could post a diagram? Or a link?

I want to say its the second wire in from the front left of the timer. BUT, I have trouble remembering my birthday, so i wouldnt do that till I was sure.
You have a wiring diagram?

Title: Re: Stranded...
Post by JohnBoy on 08/28/09 at 14:42:40

Just a quick comment,
Most car part shops can load test a bike battery. Just because it holds a charge doesn't mean that it's a good battery. You might end up buying parts you don't need...like I did. Grrrrrrrr!

Title: Re: Stranded...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/29/09 at 09:05:50

Yellow wire, green stripe, in the middle on the side with the retaining clip, where the harness connects to the decomp timer. Thats where the 12 V jumps to to make it crank over. Suggest you keep it in neutral, b/c it will crank the engine over, even if the key is off.
There is a single ed wire running under the seat. The tiniest switch you can find will handle the current. I used a micro-switch off the face of a dead DVD player. That switch would fit on my little fingernail. By leaving some circuitboard attached, I was able to tie wrap it up under the frame, by my right thigh. I used 2 fingers off of nitrile gloves to put the thing in before I tie wrapped it. Its been there for almost 3 years, still works fine. Sure would suck for it to short out tho,,, BIG time..

The diagram has the color codes. Its the letters/ y/g is yellow wire, green stripe. IF there is a g/y, that would be a green wire with a yellow stripe.

Title: Re: Stranded...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/30/09 at 17:34:07

What happened to Doc? I even sent this in a PM,,not a word..

Title: Re: Stranded...
Post by doc5446 on 09/03/09 at 09:39:41

Where is the decomp timer and what does it look like? What is behind my airbox and rear fender? Pics sure help a dummy like me.