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Message started by bill67 on 08/20/09 at 15:18:11

Title: Oil temperture
Post by bill67 on 08/20/09 at 15:18:11

     I'm changing my oil today,Rode it 20 miles at 75 degrees,When I drained the oil it wasn't real hot I'm guess 140-150 degrees, cooler than my hot water tap.It had 20w50 Klotz in it I'm putting in a newer Klotz mx4 15w50,Doesn't that seem cool or do they run that cool.

Title: Re:  Oil temperture
Post by voldigicam on 08/20/09 at 17:34:42

I'm quite impressed with how cool the 650 runs.  Impressive.  I'm not sure why.  Other reports on this board suggest that modest temperatures are quite common on these bikes.  Pretty nifty!

Title: Re:  Oil temperture
Post by jabman on 08/21/09 at 13:20:39

im wishing it had a temp gauge, so i know when the oil is up to temp and i can give it some revs

Title: Re:  Oil temperture
Post by Gary On A Savage on 08/21/09 at 13:31:08


43484B444847290 wrote:
im wishing it had a temp gauge, so i know when the oil is up to temp and i can give it some revs


When it sounds like an angry sowing machine, then it's ready!

Title: Re:  Oil temperture
Post by Charon on 08/21/09 at 18:31:15

It is my understanding that oil needs to get up around 195 F or so to evaporate any water out. Oil viscosity is measured at 100 C, or 212 F, considered the temperature of a "warmed up" engine. Keeping the oil too cool is no better than letting it get too hot, because it is designed to work in a certain temperature range. My question would be where the temperature should be measured. Does one measure in the sump, in the little "pool" in the head on the Savage/S40, or somewhere else? I think the hottest oil is found on the rings, but it would be difficult to measure it there. The simple air-cooled engine doesn't have any way to control the oil temperature, anyway.

Title: Re:  Oil temperture
Post by bill67 on 08/21/09 at 19:05:50

 In 20 miles of riding I drained the oil right a way,And put my hand in the oil pan to get the drain plug out and it didn't burn at all.It surprised me.

Title: Re:  Oil temperture
Post by verslagen1 on 08/21/09 at 19:31:47

Do you troll for fish while you're going thru the creek?

Title: Re:  Oil temperture
Post by bill67 on 08/21/09 at 19:39:50

 No but when turned my boots over to get the water out there were a couple of fish that come out with the water.

Title: Re:  Oil temperture
Post by Digger on 08/23/09 at 21:05:20


667F7C7479777973717D100 wrote:
I'm quite impressed with how cool the 650 runs.  Impressive.  I'm not sure why.  Other reports on this board suggest that modest temperatures are quite common on these bikes.  Pretty nifty!


Methinks that low performance and low operating temperatures go hand-in-hand.   :)

Not that I'm complaining....my Savage makes enough power for what I use it for.

Title: Re:  Oil temperture
Post by Oldfeller on 08/24/09 at 04:49:27

All oil takes a frequent trip up to the cam journals and then through the bathtub area right over the angled spark plug hole and gets to exit by the exhaust valves -- I think during its circulation route all oil gets well over 200 degrees for long enough to evaporate any water that might be in it.

Proof is in your drain pan -- ever found any unevaporated water when changing your oil?   I remember seeing a droplet or two when changing a car's oil out, but never on the Savage.

Title: Re:  Oil temperture
Post by bill67 on 08/24/09 at 06:17:40

  The better the oil,it will have less friction and run cooler

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