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Message started by savageken on 08/13/09 at 15:58:52

Title: oil change
Post by savageken on 08/13/09 at 15:58:52

have 2009 changed oil yesterday (500 miles) now have a leak from what appears the drain plug area.  am sure i tightened the plug enough.  has anyone else experienced this.  what did i do wrong?

Title: Re: oil change
Post by Serowbot on 08/13/09 at 16:44:19

Did you put the washer on?.... between the plug and the hole?

If you did,.. wipe it clean down there, and give it an hour or two... if it still leaks, tighten it a little harder...

Title: Re: oil change
Post by savageken on 08/13/09 at 17:19:04

did not notice the washer.  suspect that is the problem.  will pick up a new one at the stellership tomorrow ($2.35) what a rip off. will change oil again and just consider the change and engine flush.

Title: Re: oil change
Post by Serowbot on 08/13/09 at 18:01:13

Just catch the oil, and pour it back in...

I'm a cheapskate,... can ya' tell?.... ;)

Title: Re: oil change
Post by PTRider on 08/13/09 at 19:12:33

Most auto parts stores sell oil drain plug gaskets in all the various metric and fractional sizes in aluminum, copper, fiber, and plastic.  If you get the diameter of the threads of your drain plug, you can get the gasket.  I'd choose fiber or plastic for a plug in an aluminum casing

Title: Re: oil change
Post by Bear on 08/13/09 at 21:33:24

Whenever I get a leaky drain plug on cars, bikes or anything else, I just unscrew the drain plug about 3 turns and take some teflon tape give it two wraps and retighten the plug.  Works everytime.  No teflon tape - some cotton kite string is a good substitute.
HINT - take the teflon tape and spin it in your fingers to make a teflon string.  Easier to wrap around plug.
You are not sealing the plug threads, you are just adding material to the flange gasket area.

Title: Re: oil change
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/14/09 at 03:30:12

Thats a clever solution. Im always in the market for another one of those.

Title: Re: oil change
Post by sakara on 08/14/09 at 06:42:54

I had some dirt/gravel/debris on a plug once that leaked. Even though I didn't notice, it musta got dirty before I screwed it back in and that much did the trick. A slow seap, rather. The washer, though, is more likely. :)

Title: Re: oil change
Post by JohnBoy on 08/14/09 at 07:20:47

As long as we are talking oil...anybody got a NAPA or Fram part number for a Savage oil filter replacement?

Title: Re: oil change
Post by Charon on 08/14/09 at 07:30:27

On some motorcycles the oil plug gasket seems to have a habit of staying on the crankcase instead of coming off with the plug. Then it falls into the pan into which you are collecting the oil. You then, not noticing the missing gasket, replace the plug and refill the oil. Only when you pour the used oil into whatever collection receptacle you use do you notice the gasket.

Title: Re: oil change
Post by ralfyguy on 08/14/09 at 07:45:59


614443456944522B0 wrote:
As long as we are talking oil...anybody got a NAPA or Fram part number for a Savage oil filter replacement?

Yeah, I wondered about that too.

Title: Re: oil change
Post by sakara on 08/14/09 at 08:00:16

I've bookmarked this page for a while.

http://www.tampabikers.com/oil_filters.htm


Fram's 6178 seems to be ideal, bu I'm not an expert in this area.

Title: Re: oil change
Post by PTRider on 08/14/09 at 14:57:32

I don't think Fram has a filter for our engines
http://www.power-21.com/FramPower21i/RelatedInfo.aspx?b=F&f=FRAM/powersports_motorcycle_0409_FIS.pdf

I know that WIX/NAPA lists the wrong filter.  They list a spin-on filter, not the canister filter we have.

Hiflo has a good one, HF137, for about $7, probably special order, at any non-Suzuki cycle shop.  Their air filter, HFA3608, about $15, is a good choice as well.
http://www.hiflofiltro.com/17.0.html?&L=0&sel_uid=1289

Title: Re: oil change
Post by bill67 on 08/14/09 at 15:13:29

 Suzuki oil filter rated right at the top so why take a chance on something else,A lot of times saving a little money cost more in the long run.

Title: Re: oil change
Post by JohnBoy on 08/14/09 at 15:22:13

I did find a Suzuki filter so I got that one for 7.95.
in the mean time I found some additional info:

OEM Suzuki filter (part number 16510-37450)
Height:  (36 mm)
Outside Diameter: (60 mm)
PSI Relief Valve: 17.5
Anti Drain Back Valve: No
Style: Cartridge

K&N
Part KN-137 Product Specifications   (shown as compatable from '86-'09) Cross references to Suzuki part numbers: 1651037440 and 1651037450 (the Suzuki parts guy said he thinks it is the same part and Suzuki changed the database...hince the new number)

(Also fits Suzuki DR650 from '91-'09)

Height: 1.457 in (37 mm)
Outside Diameter: 2.362 in (60 mm)
PSI Relief Valve: 17.84
Anti Drain Back Valve: No
Style: Cartridge

Sudco part number: 631-7137
Bell Industries number: 57021370
No NAPA part number found

I hope his helps some of you

JohnBoy

Title: Re: oil change
Post by savageken on 08/15/09 at 16:47:29

installed new drain plug seal and added teflon tape (yellow) to threads problem solved.

Title: Re: oil change
Post by Duane on 08/15/09 at 18:42:43

Sounds like the stealer gonna keep sticking me on that one.

I only change the filter ever other time. I always take it out and look at it though. Just to see if I see any solid matter in it or rips or punctures since I'm going to be going another cycle on the old filter. And use a rag to get out any old oil in the socket as well.

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