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Message started by EJID on 07/26/09 at 22:50:04

Title: Painting tins - Day 2
Post by EJID on 07/26/09 at 22:50:04

Well, the wife is probably none too happy with me for spending the majority of the weekend on this, but it paid off. I was able to get all the tins removed, stripped, sanded, primed, painted and reinstalled. I was even able to add back the items that were never on the bike since I've had it (Sissy bar, Brake Light, License Mount). I think it turned out pretty well, it was a base coat of dark blue glossy & flat black accents.

Tell me what you think...

Primed:
http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2009/07/27/bikepics-1737649-full.jpg

Base Coat:
http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2009/07/27/bikepics-1737651-full.jpg

Front Fender complete:
http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2009/07/27/bikepics-1737652-full.jpg

Re-Assembled:

http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2009/07/27/bikepics-1737653-full.jpg

http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2009/07/27/bikepics-1737654-full.jpg

Off the stand and ready to ride  ;D

http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2009/07/27/bikepics-1737655-full.jpg

http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2009/07/27/bikepics-1737656-full.jpg

Sorry for the cell phone pics, but that's all I had handy when I got done @ 11pm Sunday night. Looking forward to finally getting to ride it this week!!!

And if you don't remember, here's what she looked like when I started...
http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2009/07/13/bikepics-1725193-800.jpg

Title: Re: Painting tins - Day 2
Post by PerrydaSavage on 07/27/09 at 02:10:43

Great job! love the 2-tone!

Title: Re: Painting tins - Day 2
Post by savagedml on 07/27/09 at 02:14:11

I'm digging the 2-tone!!!

Title: Re: Painting tins - Day 2
Post by EJID on 07/27/09 at 06:51:01

Thanks, I "borrowed" the two-tone idea from another member, kevinphan, but used a difference color variation. I really like how the flat black contrasts with the glossy blue. I will try to get some better pics with a real camera now that she's "done" being updated for a while.  :)

Title: Re: Painting tins - Day 2
Post by Rocco on 07/27/09 at 07:26:34

very nice! it looks really good! if u can't find shocks for the back, maybe put springs under the seat! i love that and can't wait til i yank off the rear seat and do it!

but what a difference man! and your wife will be happy now that people won't think you're a murderer with the spider bike! lol

Title: Re: Painting tins - Day 2
Post by Boule’tard on 07/27/09 at 07:47:32

Well done!   Are you able to wax the flat black parts without them going pasty-white, or will you protect them with that '303 UV blocker' or something?

Title: Re: Painting tins - Day 2
Post by EJID on 07/27/09 at 09:04:23


727F657C7564716274100 wrote:
Well done!   Are you able to wax the flat black parts without them going pasty-white, or will you protect them with that '303 UV blocker' or something?


Good question, I hadn't thought about it yet.  :o I'm gonna let it "bake" in the sun for the next week of so to make sure the paint is fully cured before I go putting anything on it. If anyone has any suggestions though for protecting the paint, please let me know.

Title: Re: Painting tins - Day 2
Post by odvelasc on 07/27/09 at 10:28:47


525D5E53170 wrote:
[quote author=727F657C7564716274100 link=1248673805/0#5 date=1248706052]Well done!   Are you able to wax the flat black parts without them going pasty-white, or will you protect them with that '303 UV blocker' or something?


Good question, I hadn't thought about it yet.  :o I'm gonna let it "bake" in the sun for the next week of so to make sure the paint is fully cured before I go putting anything on it. If anyone has any suggestions though for protecting the paint, please let me know.[/quote]


Um you should really clearcoat before ever remounting the parts. Also, the paint and clearoat should have dried for atleast 2 days before buffing down the clear coat. Sometimes after buffing a 3rd coat may be needed. It looks awesome. How did you do the two tone? I plan on repainting my bike yet again at the end of august.

Title: Re: Painting tins - Day 2
Post by Yonuh Adisi on 07/27/09 at 10:57:31

Very nice, I love the way it turned out.

Title: Re: Painting tins - Day 2
Post by EJID on 07/27/09 at 11:14:24


3B30223138352737540 wrote:
[quote author=525D5E53170 link=1248673805/0#6 date=1248710663][quote author=727F657C7564716274100 link=1248673805/0#5 date=1248706052]Well done!   Are you able to wax the flat black parts without them going pasty-white, or will you protect them with that '303 UV blocker' or something?


Good question, I hadn't thought about it yet.  :o I'm gonna let it "bake" in the sun for the next week of so to make sure the paint is fully cured before I go putting anything on it. If anyone has any suggestions though for protecting the paint, please let me know.[/quote]


Um you should really clearcoat before ever remounting the parts. Also, the paint and clearoat should have dried for atleast 2 days before buffing down the clear coat. Sometimes after buffing a 3rd coat may be needed. It looks awesome. How did you do the two tone? I plan on repainting my bike yet again at the end of august.[/quote]

At first I tried to clear coat the front fender with a matte finish clear coat, but it turned the black a real cloudy white and didn't help the blue either...  :( I tried to buff it back out to no avail, so I had to resand, and repaint that fender. I'm just glad I didn't shoot all of it with that clear. If I was using a high gloss on everything, I don't think I would have had any problems with the clear coat, but with the flat, I think there are issues  :-[

Title: Re: Painting tins - Day 2
Post by Boule’tard on 07/27/09 at 11:14:45


76797A77330 wrote:
Good question, I hadn't thought about it yet.  :o I'm gonna let it "bake" in the sun for the next week of so to make sure the paint is fully cured before I go putting anything on it. If anyone has any suggestions though for protecting the paint, please let me know.


In general it is a good idea to let paint cure for two weeks before waxing, if you want to go that route.  Clear coating isn't a bad idea if you don't mind losing much of the "flatness" of your black areas.  

I recently painted a plastic dirt bike part flat black, and wanted to protect it without clearcoat (which I figured would chip) or pasty-white wax.  So I just sprayed it with the 303 stuff. I think I got it from wholesalemarine or some other boating outfit.  So far it has held up well, despite all the thumpin' vibration.  The part buzzed like crazy before I found a way to dampen it.. if I had to do it over again I'd just spray it with truck bed liner.

Title: Re: Painting tins - Day 2
Post by odvelasc on 07/27/09 at 17:58:11


707F7C71350 wrote:
[quote author=3B30223138352737540 link=1248673805/0#7 date=1248715727][quote author=525D5E53170 link=1248673805/0#6 date=1248710663][quote author=727F657C7564716274100 link=1248673805/0#5 date=1248706052]Well done!   Are you able to wax the flat black parts without them going pasty-white, or will you protect them with that '303 UV blocker' or something?


Good question, I hadn't thought about it yet.  :o I'm gonna let it "bake" in the sun for the next week of so to make sure the paint is fully cured before I go putting anything on it. If anyone has any suggestions though for protecting the paint, please let me know.[/quote]


Um you should really clearcoat before ever remounting the parts. Also, the paint and clearoat should have dried for atleast 2 days before buffing down the clear coat. Sometimes after buffing a 3rd coat may be needed. It looks awesome. How did you do the two tone? I plan on repainting my bike yet again at the end of august.[/quote]

At first I tried to clear coat the front fender with a matte finish clear coat, but it turned the black a real cloudy white and didn't help the blue either...  :( I tried to buff it back out to no avail, so I had to resand, and repaint that fender. I'm just glad I didn't shoot all of it with that clear. If I was using a high gloss on everything, I don't think I would have had any problems with the clear coat, but with the flat, I think there are issues  :-[ [/quote]

Ya I went with a glossy clear. Got it from an auto paint store. Gotta make sure it is the correct clear coat as well. Its gotta be the clearcoat that can hold up against gas spilling on it. How did you paint around the gas gap. I think my paint came up to high on the rim of where you pour the gas because its starting to bubble, so I now have electrical tape around it. My next paint job is gonna be paint and clear coat poured and premixed into rattle cans for me. I may go for a matte color. So, what did you use to cover the blue in order to do the black two tone on top?

Title: Re: Painting tins - Day 2
Post by Serowbot on 07/27/09 at 18:19:15

from a sow's ear,.. to a silk purse....

Very nice!.... ;)

Title: Re: Painting tins - Day 2
Post by Tonydtiger1971 on 07/27/09 at 19:14:10

Nice ride.  I may need some tips on getting the dings out.

Title: Re: Painting tins - Day 2
Post by EJID on 07/28/09 at 06:43:14

Thanks for all the comments, I'm just glad I finally get to ride it  ;D

odvelasc: I sprayed all the tins blue and let them cure in the sun for about 5 hours, rotating them on a regular basis so that the whole thing got nice and toasty.  :D I brought them back in the house and let them cool back down before I masked of the areas that I wanted to keep blue with regular blue painter's tape (in hindsight, it would have been much easier to make the curves and such with a cheap roll of pinstriping, but I took my time and got them just how I wanted to). After establishing the "lines" of where I wanted to keep the blue, I covered the rest with the blue tape and sprayed on the black.
I did a few coats of the black in less than an hour and about 30 min later, I carefully peeled off the tape (seems the flat dries to the touch within about 10 min with such light coats). Then I let everything bake in the sun for another few hours.
Around the gas cap you can see in the blue picture of the tank that I put several strips of tape going from inside the tank to just outside making a small cone. I hope I don't have any issues with the paint bubbling around the cap, but we shall see  :-[ now you've got me worried about something else that I didn't predict.

Title: Re: Painting tins - Day 2
Post by Violent_Rage on 07/28/09 at 07:03:49

really really nice job!!!  ;)

Title: Re: Painting tins - Day 2
Post by Stimpy on 07/28/09 at 11:22:15

Nice blue accents.

...BTW, how does the bike ride & handle w/o rear shocks?
(we're moding an old SR250 in the shop into a bobber and were
thinking of removing the shocks and installing a spring seat)

C'ya

Title: Re: Painting tins - Day 2
Post by EJID on 07/28/09 at 14:22:44


74534E4A575E270 wrote:
Nice blue accents.

...BTW, how does the bike ride & handle w/o rear shocks?
(we're moding an old SR250 in the shop into a bobber and were
thinking of removing the shocks and installing a spring seat)

C'ya


Thanks, when I bought it the struts were already on the bike, and I have never ridden it with shocks so I don't have a point of reference to compare the ride quality. I do know that I hit a manhole cover today that felt like it shook my teeth loose  :o If i end up picking up some shocks to compare, I will let you know.

Title: Re: Painting tins - Day 2
Post by flcruzr on 07/28/09 at 17:32:43


0C03000D490 wrote:
Thanks, I "borrowed" the two-tone idea from another member, kevinphan, but used a difference color variation. I really like how the flat black contrasts with the glossy blue. I will try to get some better pics with a real camera now that she's "done" being updated for a while.  :)


Good Job!  I remember your first post and pic of your before pics.  The new look rocks!  Enjoy your new bike.

Title: Re: Painting tins - Day 2
Post by EJID on 07/30/09 at 08:56:21

I was sitting at a stoplight yesterday and there was an older couple moving their HD Heritage Softail w/trailer back so they could pull out of the gas station, when he looked up at me, got a great big grin on his face and said "cute, I like it." I just nodded and said "thanks."

I guess I didn't realize just how much smaller/more versatile these bikes were until I started riding it to work this week and park it next to a Softail Custom and a Road Glide. Those things are HUGE, I don't know if I would actually be ready to ride one of those at this point. Glad I went with my thumper for my first bike back on the road in over 15 years  :)

Title: Re: Painting tins - Day 2
Post by PerrydaSavage on 07/30/09 at 10:44:19

Cool! ... Our little Thumpers are legit Bikes for sure!

Just this morning on my way back home from doing some volunteer work with our annual summer Foreign Student Exchange Program, a very gristled Biker and his equally Road Worn Harley Softail pulled up to me at a stop light ... He goes, "Cool Bike ya got there man!" I say, "Thanks". He continues, "I'm from out of Province and I'm kinda lost. Can ya tell me where the local Harley Dealer is"? I say, "No prob bud! I got the time, I'll take ya there! Just follow me!" He lights up a nearly toothless grin (no kiddin'!) and yells, "All right!", while punching the air with his right fist! A short (and heart chomping) Ride thru a local Industrial Park at Rush Hour later, we pull into the local Harley Stealership. Dude, who was from Alberta and had spent a month Riding across Canada to attend our (in)famous George Street Festival, then gushed over "what a tidy package" my S40 was and kinda couldn't believe it was a Suzuki!

Sorry for hijacking this Thread!! :-[

Title: Re: Painting tins - Day 2
Post by AngloSaxon on 07/30/09 at 11:18:50

Nice job mate.

Title: Re: Painting tins - Day 2
Post by Violent_Rage on 08/04/09 at 06:41:19

I have a question about the primer.

What kind of primer do you use?
I have found only a primer for plastic, but I'm not sure it's suitable!

tnx!  ;)


Title: Re: Painting tins - Day 2
Post by EJID on 08/04/09 at 07:06:29


586761626B607A515C6F696B0E0 wrote:
I have a question about the primer.

What kind of primer do you use?
I have found only a primer for plastic, but I'm not sure it's suitable!

tnx!  ;)


I just picked up a primer @ Lowe's - it was labeled as an automotive primer.

Here's the majority of the supplies that I used:

http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2009/07/23/bikepics-1734629-full.jpg

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