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Message started by Skid Mark on 07/22/09 at 14:00:39

Title: Shell Rotella Oil
Post by Skid Mark on 07/22/09 at 14:00:39

I'm ready to take the plunge and buy a gallon of 15w40 Rotella T Triple Protection oil for the Wee Beastie. I don't want to rehash the debate of which oil is better. Would those who use it please reassure me its good for the bike. I've read the posts, a lot of you use it according to the posts. I'm just a little nervous using it for the 1st time.

Thanks!!!!

Title: Re: Shell Rotella Oil
Post by BurnPgh on 07/22/09 at 14:03:45

Been using it the last 3-4k mi. It certainly isnt hurting anything.

Title: Re: Shell Rotella Oil
Post by ret cg on 07/22/09 at 16:25:52

Working fine in my 2006 with 6000 miles.

Title: Re: Shell Rotella Oil
Post by photojoe on 07/22/09 at 16:54:46

Not only on this site, but I've not read anything negative about that oil on any other MC forums. Seems very popular with the MC crowd. I may just make the switch myself the next time I change my oil.

Title: Re: Shell Rotella Oil
Post by KenGLong on 07/22/09 at 17:01:49

I'm planning on using it from now on for all my vehicles that don't have catalytic converters. I read somewhere that the sulfur level was a bit too high for cats.

Title: Re: Shell Rotella Oil
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/22/09 at 19:43:19

Its in the backhoe, 4 wheeler, lawnmower,& Savage..

Title: Re: Shell Rotella Oil
Post by Reelthing on 07/22/09 at 20:04:32

Are you guys sure you using the Rotella T Triple Protection ?
it's different than the regular Rotella T - reports on some other websites of slipping clutches like this one:

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=328478

little more info on the Triple Protection seems it has had is zinc content reduced

http://wapedia.mobi/en/Shell_Rotella_T

Title: Re: Shell Rotella Oil
Post by PTRider on 07/22/09 at 20:55:34

Rotella-T Multigrade 15W-40 is the older formulation meeting API Service Categories CI-4 Plus and SL

Rotella-T Triple Protection 15W-40 is the new formulation meeting CJ-4 and SM.

CJ-4 has a max phosphate limit (from the zinc diethyl dithio phosphate or similar compounds) of 0.12%. Earlier categories including CI-4 and CI-4 Plus can have more.

Automotive oil with the ILSAC GF-4 emblem has an upper limit of 0.08%. Auto oils without the GF-4 on the label can have more. Motorcycle oils can be higher.

We do not know what zinc phosphorus level Shell put into the older Rotella-T Multigrade. (We really don't know what is in CJ-4 except no more than 0.12%). We do know that all these heavy duty engine oils of all brands keep diesel engine wear under control for 600,000 or more highway miles.

So---use the Shell Rotella-T Triple Protection oil and sleep well. It is a better oil than any 10W-40 except maybe a synthetic motorcycle-specific 10W-40.

Shell has said that the oils pass the JASO MA motorcycle clutch tests (http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1125618).

Title: Re: Shell Rotella Oil
Post by Skid Mark on 07/22/09 at 21:10:10

Thanks to all who replied. You have given me the piece of mind I was looking for. I'll be doing the oil change this weekend with the Rotella T triple protection.

Title: Re: Shell Rotella Oil
Post by Skid Mark on 07/22/09 at 21:10:56

Thanks to all who replied. You have given me the piece of mind I was looking for. I'll be doing the oil change this weekend with the Rotella T triple protection.

Title: Re: Shell Rotella Oil
Post by Educatedredneck on 07/22/09 at 22:12:56

I use and it is fairly cheap at Wally World.

Title: Re: Shell Rotella Oil
Post by Jay on 07/23/09 at 04:22:16

Began using it months ago. No problems, no complaints. :)

Title: Re: Shell Rotella Oil
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/23/09 at 08:10:44

OOops, I was just talking about Rotella-T 15/40. I dont know about the TRiple Pro stuff..

Title: Re: Shell Rotella Oil
Post by Skid Mark on 07/27/09 at 19:52:42

Just did the oil change with Shell Rotella T 15w40 triple protection.
Ran the bike for about 20 miles on both highway and town roads with no issues. ;D
Thanks to all for the advice. Oil costs are now 1/2 what they were.

Title: Re: Shell Rotella Oil
Post by srinath on 07/28/09 at 09:25:09

Rotella is a perennial favorite on the gs500 group too.

I however run accel 10W40 from walmart. If that was unavailable I'd be all over the rotella T for my air cooled zook's for sure if not all bikes.

I like to just have 1 oil for all bikes, so I dont have to worry about matching it when I add to the thing inbetween changes.

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Shell Rotella Oil
Post by 4carbcorvair on 07/28/09 at 11:40:26

Lots of Corvair owners use the Shell Rotella T also, including myself.

Title: Re: Shell Rotella Oil
Post by srinath on 07/28/09 at 13:42:13

You really do want zinc, or phosphorus, or aluminum ... that isn't going to hurt the clutch.

The thing it will do is burn and produce a lot of ashy exhaust and clog up the exhaust sensors. You know, the great savage exhaust sensors ... gone, clogged, done ... toast ... yea, every oil change I put new exhaust sensors in the savage exhaust ... because of my oil.

The accel 10W40 is SF rated ... I see your SL and SM ... you seem to be from this century ... sorry ... I am not that modern ... SF ... booya.

The zinc and others of its ilk (copper is a huge favorite over most of the rest, but phosphorus is also supposed to_ are there to protect the plain bearings when oil film thickness starts to get near 0.

But watch out for those pesky exhaust sensors, you dont want any of these getting on them.

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Shell Rotella Oil
Post by Oldfeller on 07/28/09 at 13:53:51

And for heaven's sake, watch out for anything that would hurt your type 2 catalytic converters -- wow, replacing one of those on the Savage is really really costly since you have to get it from the Suzuki Stealership home office.

(Srinath, really we shouldn't be teasing the newbies -- they may take us seriously. Although for car use and some of the most modern direct injected modern motorcycles these are real concerns)

Title: Re: Shell Rotella Oil
Post by srinath on 07/28/09 at 14:04:20

Yea I hat to replace my cat ... the cat in my hat ... it took the bat and hit me with it rat a tat tat ... I hat to replace my cat.
Cool.
Srinath.