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Message started by Rocco on 07/17/09 at 00:43:54

Title: oil leak ?
Post by Rocco on 07/17/09 at 00:43:54

my beast is leaking @ the bolt under the exhaust in the front of the engine....it looks like it may be getting worse so i want her not to spew anymore!

i've read u can just loctite and throw it back in....i read 17 pounds to torque it on...if u don't have a torque wrench how do u do that?

and if i have to get a torque wrench. there's settings on it right? i've seen them used but was always under the car(smaller dude, gotta squeeze in the tight spaces) i'd hear it click, is that per pound is one click?

i really hope it's just that easy(loctite and back in) because i'm having way too much fun tearing it up and down everywhere! the commute to the job used to suck, til i started thumpin!!!

Title: Re: oil leak ?
Post by jabman on 07/17/09 at 01:24:20

i need a torque wrench, ive stripped too many bolts already. you set the wrench to what you want and then it clicks when your there

Title: Re: oil leak ?
Post by Serowbot on 07/17/09 at 03:25:12

The click means you've hit the set torque,... it's adjustable by twisting the barrel of the wrench.....
The bad news, (not so bad), is that the oil leak you have, is under the valve cover.... a rubber plug, famous for leaking...
See the tech section....
Repair is a bit of a bugger, but there are step by step instructions, ($10 bucks for rubber plug, and $10 bucks for Honda-bond sealant)... or, if it's not too bad, just live with it....

Title: Re: oil leak ?
Post by sakara on 07/17/09 at 07:08:06

Yeah man, if you don't want the big down time, ride her until this fall/winter then tear it apart and fix it. At least, that's my plan for this season. Tech section has all the info.

Title: Re: oil leak ?
Post by photojoe on 07/17/09 at 07:34:21

I've been really lazy with the oil leak. Bought the plug last year and was going to do the plug and tank paint over the winter but did nothing but ride it right through the cold weather, flurries and all. Yes, it's a nuisance, but so is working on it in the sand under the tree in front of my place. Could use Mom's garage, but I guess I'm just a lazy sob. She cools down and I wipe it off with a rag. Worse after a highway ride, but hardly lose any oil, just a couple of tablespoons at the most. Doesn't really bother me enough to tear into it at this point. Paid $1000 for it and am enjoying every dimes worth.

Title: Re: oil leak ?
Post by Rocco on 07/17/09 at 08:42:19

crap! the problem is there's no down time here, winter will be 75 degrees and breezy! i'll clean her off and see how much is leaking, i may just leave it for now if it's not too bad. as long as it's nothing serious!

i paid 1700(2000 including dealer fees) everything is expensive in west palm beach!

so she'll just be a little sloppy ahaaa

Title: Re: oil leak ?
Post by verslagen1 on 07/17/09 at 09:03:20

The trick is to have all your supplies ready.
If they predict a weeks worth of rain, go for it.
that's what I do.

Title: Re: oil leak ?
Post by ralfyguy on 07/17/09 at 19:29:07

No it IS the nut under the header you're talking about. I had the same and used blue loctite and tightened it back down. Leaking stopped. I just loosened the nut and felt how much it took to break it loose, and then applied the same strength to tighten. It just worked great.
1D202C2C204F0 wrote:

Title: Re: oil leak ?
Post by Rocco on 07/17/09 at 20:38:49

ralfyguy, u are the man! i thought it was because it appears to be leaking right from that nut. i'll put pics up if u like, but i'm almost 100% sure that's what it is!! i am so happy it's a quick fix!!!!!! ravenous!!!!!!!

Title: Re: oil leak ?
Post by ralfyguy on 07/17/09 at 21:06:25

Yeah show me some pics. I am curious too.

Title: Re: oil leak ? WITH PICS!!
Post by Rocco on 07/18/09 at 08:55:39

here it is! this looks like it's coming from that bolt!

what does it do?

which tube(color) threadlock is the one that u can remove later?

and when i do it do i hand tighten then give a small bit of torque with the socket? i assume it's a 10mm haven't even tried yet.

http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs187.snc1/6280_1026531963438_1829467793_61499_2189677_n.jpg

http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs187.snc1/6280_1026532003439_1829467793_61500_4119418_n.jpg

it's not too bad, but if i can fix it easily then y not?! plus too there's alot of oil build up now so it kinda flies on me while riding lol i'm sure it's been leaking the whole time, and now has enough to fill some of the "lines" in the engine.

Title: Re: oil leak ?
Post by runwyrlph on 07/18/09 at 10:47:31

122F23232F400 wrote:

crap! the problem is there's no down time here, winter will be 75 degrees and breezy!

life is hard, huh ?

in PA we're lucky if it's 75/breezy in the summer!
>:(

Title: Re: oil leak ? WITH PICS!!
Post by ralfyguy on 07/18/09 at 12:40:48

122F23232F400 wrote:

That's the one. I used the blue loctite and it's 12mm wrench size, or you can use a 1/2" wrench. Remove the nut and clean the area and the nut. Put a drop or two of blue loctite about half way up the bolt. Then put the nut on and tighten about the same amount it took to break loose. DONE! :)

BUT if I look a little closer at your pic, it seems to me, that the oil comes from the area where the infamous oil plug resides/leaks, from higher up. So I dunno if that is your problem. I would clean up the area entirely first and then ride and observe where it comes from. Use some degreaser to spray it down.

Title: Re: oil leak ? WITH PICS!!
Post by odvelasc on 07/18/09 at 12:47:55

7449454549260 wrote:

Is that from the left side of the cylinder or the front? If it is from the left side, thant it shouldnt leak because there i nothing there to leak.

Title: Re: oil leak ? WITH PICS!!
Post by Yonuh Adisi on 07/18/09 at 13:17:36

605D51515D320 wrote:

That's a head bolt believe it or not. You have six headbolts. Four under the head cover and two outside the head. That one in front and it's twin on the back of the cylinder.

Title: Re: oil leak ? WITH PICS!!
Post by Digger on 07/18/09 at 19:18:06

72616C6679677579000 wrote:

....BUT if I look a little closer at your pic, it seems to me, that the oil comes from the area where the infamous oil plug resides/leaks, from higher up. So I dunno if that is your problem. I would clean up the area entirely first and then ride and observe where it comes from. Use some degreaser to spray it down.

What Ralf said.

I'd clean it up good....the entire area.

Then, I'd take the bike for about a 20-25 mile toot.

Then, I'd let it cool down.

Then, I'd touch the bottom of that stud to see if it is wet with oil.

If it was wet, I'd remove the nut and clean the nut and the stud up real well. I'd also clean the area where the nut contacts the engine cooling fin.

Then, I'd smudge a bit of Permatex Ultra Copper or Ultra Gray on the threads and the contact face of the nut.

Then, I'd torque the nut to about 10 ft-lbs (carefully!) and ride. The oil leak should be stopped.

If the stud had no oil on it at the end of the ride, I'd suspect the rubber plug of leakage.

IHTH!

Title: Re: oil leak ?
Post by Rocco on 07/18/09 at 22:55:57

i bought degreaser! so i'll clean it up nice and follow the steps! lol

the best i could find(walmart 1am lol) was permatex threadlocker, blue. it says service removable and can be used on valve cover, water pumps, and oil pan bolts. can i use this?

Title: Re: oil leak ?
Post by Digger on 07/19/09 at 18:38:08

6A575B5B57380 wrote:

I'd use it on mine.

Title: Re: oil leak ?
Post by Rocco on 07/20/09 at 07:59:54

sounds goood! if it is the infamous "plug leak" i'll monitor to see how bad it is, if it's that bad i'll get my mechanic friend to help me out. gotta learn eventually!