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Message started by Yonuh Adisi on 07/03/09 at 13:52:58

Title: Battery terminal question
Post by Yonuh Adisi on 07/03/09 at 13:52:58

You know how they make those weird looking cloth type washers for car batteries to stop corrosion of the batt terminals?

Does anyone know if they make them for bike batts?

I have been having trouble with terminal corrosion, it actually gets so bad that it robs me of the ability to fire the sparkplug. But once I clean it off, the FireLizard works perfectly again until the corrosion builds up again.

Any ideas on how to stop or at least retard this occurrence?

Title: Re: Battery terminal question
Post by odvelasc on 07/03/09 at 14:04:05

5066677C61486D607A60090 wrote:

Add a bit of salt to the terminal lol Just kidding. Have you tried cleaning the battery connectors with a rust gel? I would think this would work and then just make sure to clean it off good. If it is still pissing rain tomorrow I may do some maintenance on the Savage. I will try this rust gel as well and let you know.

Title: Re: Battery terminal question
Post by Yonuh Adisi on 07/03/09 at 14:10:43

A friend of mine actually suggested melting a little bit of Vaseline and pouring it carefully over the terminals (after cleaning them up of course) then when it cools and solidifies it will have gotten into all the tight spaces providing a moisture barrier. I have yet to try this however.

Title: Re: Battery terminal question
Post by Gort on 07/03/09 at 14:20:20

I no longer use the washers, but instead use this electrical terminal protector. My terminals never corrode after applying this product. I've used the old homemade potions that others suggest, and the washers and sprays available at auto supply stores, and none of them worked like this. Its expensive, but worth every penny and goes a long way.

http://stormcopperstore.com/no-ox-id-a.html?gclid=CJfFwICyiJsCFRkWswodfS--ow

Title: Re: Battery terminal question
Post by Yonuh Adisi on 07/03/09 at 14:29:00

Thanks Gort, I'll look into it. Much obliged.

Title: Re: Battery terminal question
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/03/09 at 14:29:34

A less spendy approach would be to clean it up & wipe on some liquid electrical tape, available in a can at Harbor Freight. I dont use their brush, I use a wire.

Title: Re: Battery terminal question
Post by prechermike on 07/03/09 at 14:29:34

Well, here we go with the someone told me . . .

If you put grease on there, that does OK until things get hot (like in the summer time) then it runs and melts off. It is also very greasy, it is after all, grease.

They told me to shoot it with spray paint. It goes one as a liquid, gets into all the nooks and crannies and then dries hard to seal it.

I had a friend that worked on electric fork lifts and they had some official batter terminal protector that he gave me. Spray it on and it foams up, then settles down to a hard, plasticy finish. I have no idea what it is other than Raymond (the folk lift co.) battery terminal protector. That works about as good as anything. But I have had OK success with the grease and paint as well.

Yonuh, ride over and I will give you a spray! ;)

Title: Re: Battery terminal question
Post by Yonuh Adisi on 07/03/09 at 14:31:41

353720262D2037282C2E20450 wrote:

North Carolina is a bit far for me at the moment. ;) ;)

Title: Re: Battery terminal question
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/03/09 at 14:35:43

http://www.noco-usa.com/pdf/Noco-Catalog-Chemicals.pdf

Title: Re: Battery terminal question
Post by Yonuh Adisi on 07/03/09 at 14:40:17

302F292E33340535053D2F23685A0 wrote:

http://www.noco-usa.com/pdf/Noco-Catalog-Chemicals.pdf

Thanks Justin, I will peruse that later.

Title: Re: Battery terminal question
Post by Yonuh Adisi on 07/03/09 at 14:45:46

5761607B664F6A677D670E0 wrote:

[quote author=302F292E33340535053D2F23685A0 link=1246654378/0#8 date=1246656943]http://www.noco-usa.com/pdf/Noco-Catalog-Chemicals.pdf

Thanks Justin, I will peruse that later. [/quote]

Just looked at the catalog, where is the price list or do I have to call for pricing?

Title: Re: Battery terminal question
Post by prechermike on 07/03/09 at 15:35:44

497F7E65785174796379100 wrote:

[quote author=353720262D2037282C2E20450 link=1246654378/0#6 date=1246656574]Well, here we go with the someone told me . . .

If you put grease on there, that does OK until things get hot (like in the summer time) then it runs and melts off. It is also very greasy, it is after all, grease.

They told me to shoot it with spray paint. It goes one as a liquid, gets into all the nooks and crannies and then dries hard to seal it.

I had a friend that worked on electric fork lifts and they had some official batter terminal protector that he gave me. Spray it on and it foams up, then settles down to a hard, plasticy finish. I have no idea what it is other than Raymond (the folk lift co.) battery terminal protector. That works about as good as anything. But I have had OK success with the grease and paint as well.

Yonuh, ride over and I will give you a spray! ;)

North Carolina is a bit far for me at the moment. ;) ;)[/quote]

But you can't say I didn't offer! :D

Title: Re: Battery terminal question
Post by Yonuh Adisi on 07/03/09 at 15:38:43

3F3D2A2C272A3D2226242A4F0 wrote:

[quote author=497F7E65785174796379100 link=1246654378/0#7 date=1246656701][quote author=353720262D2037282C2E20450 link=1246654378/0#6 date=1246656574]Well, here we go with the someone told me . . .

If you put grease on there, that does OK until things get hot (like in the summer time) then it runs and melts off. It is also very greasy, it is after all, grease.

They told me to shoot it with spray paint. It goes one as a liquid, gets into all the nooks and crannies and then dries hard to seal it.

I had a friend that worked on electric fork lifts and they had some official batter terminal protector that he gave me. Spray it on and it foams up, then settles down to a hard, plasticy finish. I have no idea what it is other than Raymond (the folk lift co.) battery terminal protector. That works about as good as anything. But I have had OK success with the grease and paint as well.

Yonuh, ride over and I will give you a spray! ;)

Title: Re: Battery terminal question
Post by Gort on 07/03/09 at 16:04:21

A clarification about grease melting. Grease melts at the temperatures the manufacturers allow them to melt at. For example, Mobil 1 grease melts at 356 degrees. Every 'grease' product's melting point is different.

This electrical corrosion treatment 'grease' does not melt on my motorcycle's battery terminals, and I have ridden my bike through 105 degree desert, and once its on, nothing ever corrodes under it.

http://stormcopperstore.com/no-ox-id-a.html?gclid=CJfFwICyiJsCFRkWswodfS--ow

Title: Re: Battery terminal question
Post by PTRider on 07/04/09 at 07:26:40

55636279644D68657F650C0 wrote:

I have been having trouble with terminal corrosion, it actually gets so bad that it robs me of the ability to fire the sparkplug. But once I clean it off, the FireLizard works perfectly again until the corrosion builds up again.

Any ideas on how to stop or at least retard this occurrence?

Look very closely at your battery around the terminals. If the seal around the terminal is cracked and allowing some acid to leak out, you're in the market for a new battery. I know of no way to re-seal these points.

Title: Re: Battery terminal question
Post by T Mack 1 on 07/04/09 at 10:30:01

Agree with PTRider.. a continuing problem means the acid is getting out when it should stay in.

But first, Auto-Zone sells a little spray can of battery terminal protector. Sprays out red. Works great.

What causes the acid to come out?.....

well, on a OEM battery, 1) being over filled. 2) being mounted tilted . 3) cracked case. 4) And worse case, being continually overcharged.

On Sealed batteries, a cracked case and over charging.....

Title: Re: Battery terminal question
Post by prechermike on 07/04/09 at 12:02:39

5365647F624B6E6379630A0 wrote:

[quote author=3F3D2A2C272A3D2226242A4F0 link=1246654378/0#11 date=1246660544][quote author=497F7E65785174796379100 link=1246654378/0#7 date=1246656701][quote author=353720262D2037282C2E20450 link=1246654378/0#6 date=1246656574]Well, here we go with the someone told me . . .

If you put grease on there, that does OK until things get hot (like in the summer time) then it runs and melts off. It is also very greasy, it is after all, grease.

They told me to shoot it with spray paint. It goes one as a liquid, gets into all the nooks and crannies and then dries hard to seal it.

I had a friend that worked on electric fork lifts and they had some official batter terminal protector that he gave me. Spray it on and it foams up, then settles down to a hard, plasticy finish. I have no idea what it is other than Raymond (the folk lift co.) battery terminal protector. That works about as good as anything. But I have had OK success with the grease and paint as well.

Yonuh, ride over and I will give you a spray! ;)

Title: Re: Battery terminal question
Post by Yonuh Adisi on 07/04/09 at 12:48:04

717364626964736C686A64010 wrote:

[quote author=5365647F624B6E6379630A0 link=1246654378/0#12 date=1246660723][quote author=3F3D2A2C272A3D2226242A4F0 link=1246654378/0#11 date=1246660544][quote author=497F7E65785174796379100 link=1246654378/0#7 date=1246656701][quote author=353720262D2037282C2E20450 link=1246654378/0#6 date=1246656574]Well, here we go with the someone told me . . .

If you put grease on there, that does OK until things get hot (like in the summer time) then it runs and melts off. It is also very greasy, it is after all, grease.

They told me to shoot it with spray paint. It goes one as a liquid, gets into all the nooks and crannies and then dries hard to seal it.

I had a friend that worked on electric fork lifts and they had some official batter terminal protector that he gave me. Spray it on and it foams up, then settles down to a hard, plasticy finish. I have no idea what it is other than Raymond (the folk lift co.) battery terminal protector. That works about as good as anything. But I have had OK success with the grease and paint as well.

Yonuh, ride over and I will give you a spray! ;)

North Carolina is a bit far for me at the moment. ;) ;)[/quote]

But you can't say I didn't offer! :D[/quote]

Of course I can, it would just be a lie though. LOL But thanks for the offer though I do appreciate it.[/quote]

How about I spray some in an envelope and send it to you! ;)[/quote]

It's too late anyway. I just tried to take my battery out and it is history. The positive terminal broke off while I was trying to disconect it. So a new battery is definitely needed now.

Title: Re: Battery terminal question
Post by prechermike on 07/04/09 at 15:06:09

4771706B765F7A776D771E0 wrote:

[quote author=717364626964736C686A64010 link=1246654378/15#16 date=1246734159][quote author=5365647F624B6E6379630A0 link=1246654378/0#12 date=1246660723][quote author=3F3D2A2C272A3D2226242A4F0 link=1246654378/0#11 date=1246660544][quote author=497F7E65785174796379100 link=1246654378/0#7 date=1246656701][quote author=353720262D2037282C2E20450 link=1246654378/0#6 date=1246656574]Well, here we go with the someone told me . . .

If you put grease on there, that does OK until things get hot (like in the summer time) then it runs and melts off. It is also very greasy, it is after all, grease.

They told me to shoot it with spray paint. It goes one as a liquid, gets into all the nooks and crannies and then dries hard to seal it.

I had a friend that worked on electric fork lifts and they had some official batter terminal protector that he gave me. Spray it on and it foams up, then settles down to a hard, plasticy finish. I have no idea what it is other than Raymond (the folk lift co.) battery terminal protector. That works about as good as anything. But I have had OK success with the grease and paint as well.

Yonuh, ride over and I will give you a spray! ;)

Title: Re: Battery terminal question
Post by Yonuh Adisi on 07/04/09 at 15:19:25

797B6C6A616C7B6460626C090 wrote:

That is probably the best thing anyway! :D Now go ride and get off the computer! ;)

Can't ride without a battery, and I can't afford one yet. Maybe next week though.

Title: Re: Battery terminal question
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/04/09 at 15:35:21

POS itive terminal broke off? Thats not too positive of an event. How did your battery come to such a sad end?
You gonna get a Big Crank? You oughta do something special for the wifes B Day ya know.

Title: Re: Battery terminal question
Post by Yonuh Adisi on 07/04/09 at 16:32:13

352A2C2B3631003000382A266D5F0 wrote:

POS itive terminal broke off? Thats not too positive of an event. How did your battery come to such a sad end?
You gonna get a Big Crank? You oughta do something special for the wifes B Day ya know.

We already did something special for her b-day which was yesterday, I took her out to her favorite restaurant and went to the movies. We watched Transformers which was her choice. We had a great time.

I think my battery came to such an end because of the abuse I had put it through for the past three years. Draining it completely trying to fire it up after rebuild and such stuff. If I could afford a big crank, believe me, I would love to get one.

I am down a little longer than I thought though, went to check my front brake shoes (remember I have a mini drum front wheel) and my brake shoes are not just worn, they are literally broken. So I have to found where I can get them. I could order them from bitter end choppers from ebay, but would rather see if I can get them locally.

Title: Re: Battery terminal question
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/04/09 at 20:54:29

What a Drag,, Hope you are rolling again, soon.

Title: Re: Battery terminal question
Post by Yonuh Adisi on 07/04/09 at 20:59:50

Me too.

Title: Re: Battery terminal question
Post by Digger on 07/08/09 at 21:42:46

Old-school battery terminal grease:

Bel-Ray Waterproof Grease (http://www.belray.com/consumer/product.fsp?pid=1326)