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Message started by fretman on 07/03/09 at 01:08:03

Title: Best place to chain lock S40?
Post by fretman on 07/03/09 at 01:08:03

What's the best place on the bike to place the lock, when using a noose chain type deal, i.e. Onguard Mastiff, Kryptonite NY Noose, etc...?

Title: Re: Best place to chain lock S40?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/03/09 at 06:26:06

You do as you please, but I am comforted by the insurance peoples stats, saying the Savage is one of the least stolen, least crashed bikes out there. I am just certain the insurance stats have kept that bike up in a few turns it should have fallen down in, Seriously, you know Im serious..

Title: Re: Best place to chain lock S40?
Post by PhilM on 07/03/09 at 07:54:02

I use a chain and a padlock. When I first got my Savage I made the mistake of chaining the front wheel, and just looping it over the fender.

It wasn't long before I forgot it was there, and I jumped on and headed off... about 1.5ft forward and nearly over the handlebars. It bent the fender at the mounting points and I had to do some major fender-twisting to get it clear of the tire before heading home :-[ And yes, I had an audience..

I always go through the back wheel now and leave the lock lying on the seat so I can't miss it. No more problems!

Title: Re: Best place to chain lock S40?
Post by serowbot on 07/03/09 at 08:42:06

I go through the front disc rotor and spokes... with a U-lock hooked to a stranded cable...
I don't really fear bike thieves, just some teen prankster...
Saves me from having to kill one.... ::)

Title: Re: Best place to chain lock S40?
Post by FreeSpirit on 07/03/09 at 11:40:07

457D7C7958150 wrote:

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This one I'll definitely remember.
I'm sorry it happened,but ...This is so funny ,I'm crying.
You made my day ;)

Title: Re: Best place to chain lock S40?
Post by fretman on 07/03/09 at 16:46:17

7F6066617C7B4A7A4A72606C27150 wrote:

You don't ever lock your bike up? I'm in NYC, pretty much gotta take precautions here, regardless of stats. 4 motorcycles stolen in my neighborhood in the past two weeks, none of 'em were locked up...

Title: Re: Best place to chain lock S40?
Post by bill67 on 07/03/09 at 17:13:53

Telephone pole ;)

Title: Re: Best place to chain lock S40?
Post by Staplebox on 07/03/09 at 17:26:13

I've heard people refer to NYC as the greatest city in the world. :-? They must judge by different standards than I do.

No lock here either. The only reason I even take the key out is so I don't leave it on and kill the battery. I can't imagine someone wanting to steal my thumper.

To be helpful - if you must lock it up to deter theft - I guess you should get the most visible lock you can and put it somewhere that stops the bike from rolling. If someone really wants it, two guys could pick it up and drop it on a trailer, lock or no lock. There's only so much you can do.

Title: Re: Best place to chain lock S40?
Post by fretman on 07/03/09 at 18:37:46

6A4D5849555C5B5641390 wrote:

Yeah, in NY people mostly chain their bikes TO something, telephone pole, lamp post, etc..., so you can't pick it up and walk off. If the chain is strong enough, and the lock pick-proof enough, thieves will generally look elsewhere. A disc lock/alarm is probably a good idea too, for when there's nothing to chain it to. I was asking where to attach the chain on the bike, to be the most secure - ie they can't just unbolt the piece and slip the chain off...

NYC is a great city, I've lived here my whole life, but when you put 11 million people together in one palce, there's bound to be a few bad apples, and a few bike thieves! ;)

Title: Re: Best place to chain lock S40?
Post by Stimpy on 07/03/09 at 20:36:47

I live in Mexico City right now and THIS is the place to fear bike thieves
...but I have a system, and it works (at least till' nao).

Listen, the theory is easy: Just make it hard and unattractive for them,
thieves are LAZY, that's why their thieves in the 1st place :D

- Leave your bike in a safe, lit place.

- try to park it next to a hayabusa, R1 or something worth many times a'savage. srsly

- Use the handlebar lock

- I use a BIG lock on my front disc, the normal kind, not the bike kind,
the tougher looking the better; hey, works for me.

- I use a bike chain on the front and one on the back, the glorified
bicycle thick wire kind; tie if possible to a post or fence or something.

- Then, where the clutch starter was, now there is a kind-of-hidden
switch, you can't see it unless you look, I did this mod when the
clutch-lever-sensor failed all on it;s own, so basically nobody can
start the bike but me is switch is in the "off" position.

- Finally I use a presence alarm, meaning if the control is not 30ft from
the bike, the bike wont start, this keychain thingie goes in your pocket,
not keychain, this is mostly in the case of a bikejacking since the electric
system will die and kill the bike 10 seconds after the bike is 30ft away from me.

After months of daily practice, all this takes me about 10 seconds total
to take off and put in my backpack but it must look a mess to any
thieve and hopefully will focus on another, easier bike near by.

Good luck

http://www.philosophyofimage.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/fail_bike_lock_not_helping.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_wteA1_RMcXw/Sdf_AW5cAEI/AAAAAAAAAB4/OtVY0cRiz2A/s400/stolen_motorcycle.jpg

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CRASHES

Least Likely to be Crashed
# 1. Yamaha Virago Series
# 2. Honda Rebel Series
# 3. Suzuki Savage
# 4. Harley-Davidson FXR
# 5. BMW R1200C

Most Likely to be Crashed
# 1. Suzuki GSX-R Series
# 2. Kawasaki Ninja Series
# 3. Suzuki TLR
# 4. Yamaha YZF Series
# 5. Honda CBR Series

THEFTS

Least Likely to be Stolen
# 1. Suzuki Savage
# 2. BMW R1200C
# 3. Honda Rebel Series
# 4. Honda Shadow Series
# 5. Yamaha V-Star

Most Likely to be Stolen
# 1. Suzuki GSX-R Series
# 2. Yamaha YZF Series
# 3. Honda CBR Series
# 4. Suzuki Hayabusa
# 5. Kawasaki Ninja Series

Title: Re: Best place to chain lock S40?
Post by Staplebox on 07/03/09 at 22:07:30

@fretman
You seriously need to chain you motorcycle to something?
I can't imagine, never heard of that.

How about an big ugly chain through the belt and rear wheel with the lock on top of the seat? Then chained to something, maybe a Rottweiler or a police car?

Title: Re: Best place to chain lock S40?
Post by fretman on 07/03/09 at 23:39:26

7F584D5C40494E43542C0 wrote:

Yes, if at all possible, chaining two wheelers to an immovable object is the way to go in the city. Of course it's not always possible. I'm lucky to be one of the few New Yorkers who can park on my property - I have a brownstone (row house), and I pull my bike right up to my front window, and chain it to the window bars. Window bars are probably foreign to a lot of places in the country too, but a necessity for big city dwellers, usually just at street level.

Title: Re: Best place to chain lock S40?
Post by fretman on 07/03/09 at 23:51:53

1D3A27233E374E0 wrote:

I live in Mexico City right now and THIS is the place to fear bike thieves
...but I have a system, and it works (at least till' nao)....<snip>

[smiley=shocked.gif] Wow! That's some serious business, Stimpy. I especially like the idea of the presence alarm, that's genius. I'll have to look into those. Do you have a make/model of the one you use? Chain lock, disc lock/alarm, and presence alarm oughta do it...

Title: Re: Best place to chain lock S40?
Post by PTRider on 07/04/09 at 07:21:37

I agree with Stimpy, "Just make it hard and unattractive for them,
thieves are LAZY," and even the hard working ones want the item that is both quickest to steal and most lucrative to re-sell.

Its the same when I put my skis in the rack at the ski area...mine aren't the latest & greatest make & model (although they're just right for me). I put them next to a pair of the most popular model and go in for lunch without a worry. Park your Savage next to a Hayabusa or GSX-R.

In the town where I live I consider myself doing well if I remember to take the key out of the ignition switch.

Title: Re: Best place to chain lock S40?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/04/09 at 08:25:20

I stop & get off & walk away. In East Texas, the hordes of thieves just dont exist. I dont even bother with the fork lock. What I dont do is leave the helmet on the lock every time, kinda depends on where I am & how long Ill be away. I do have some concerns about someone messing with that & then Id be in a bind. I cant count the times Ive left the key in the ignition. Thats usually not even discovered till I am ready to go back to the bike. Im getting batter about that. Havent done it this year, yet.

Title: Re: Best place to chain lock S40?
Post by Stimpy on 07/04/09 at 10:12:19

Hi again, I use a unit I bought here in Mexico ($75) from a company called
PROTEC, model name "V4 immobilizer", their homepage has little info
and it's mostly there for resellers it seems. http://protec-security.com/

I also know it's widely available all over the world, cause it's hard to find
here since most of their stock is used foe export, but I do not know
under what name or brand it is marketed and sold. Here a few pics:

http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/3104/v4cx1.jpg

http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/8520/23122008qz0.jpg

http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/17/23122008000mv9.jpg

http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/4695/23122008001vc6.jpg

http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/4536/23122008002ui6.jpg

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/4747/23122008003eu7.jpg

C'ya!

Title: Re: Best place to chain lock S40?
Post by fretman on 07/04/09 at 12:02:48

496E73776A631A0 wrote:

Thanks for the info, Stimpy, and the pix. I'll look that up. Last night I looked for "presence alarms", and found nothing, but I did find some pretty elaborate systems that have similar functionality. This one looked interesting, among others: http://www.bikebone.com/page/BBSC/PROD/DigitalGuardDawg/DGD-M1

I think something like that, combined with a plain ol' chain lock (or two), would keep even the most clever of thieves at bay. Especially if it was next to a Hayabusa ;)

Title: Re: Best place to chain lock S40?
Post by fretman on 07/04/09 at 12:09:15

4C6B76726F661F0 wrote:

http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/17/23122008000mv9.jpg

Stimpy, btw, what muffler is that? Did you paint or coat it, or did it come like that? Looks great!

http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/17/23122008000mv9.jpg

Title: Re: Best place to chain lock S40?
Post by Stimpy on 07/04/09 at 21:59:46

Hey there, don't know what kind it is, came w/the bike,
great little open exhaust though, but it finally started
to rust and get brown and ugly about a year ago (cheapy
chrome) caused mainly by "californian morning breeze",
west coasters know what im talking about, so i just sanded
it and gave it a few coats with black BBQ spray paint (then
waited a bit and ran the bike to cook the paint) and has held
well since; I spray it a bit now and then (touchup) since it always
seems to hit w/something or other and scratch the paint.

C'ya

http://newimages.fotopic.net/?iid=yij3di&outx=0&quality=70&noresize=1

http://newimages.fotopic.net/?iid=yiiinh&outx=0&quality=70&noresize=1

http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2006%5C11%5C02%5Cbikepics-713077-full.jpg
Here you can see how it started turning brown

http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2007%5C10%5C21%5Cbikepics-1062017-full.jpg
The answer is: Kenda Challengers

http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2007%5C10%5C21%5Cbikepics-1062022-800.jpg

Title: Re: Best place to chain lock S40?
Post by fretman on 07/05/09 at 05:42:33

57706D69747D040 wrote:

Hey there, don't know what kind it is, came w/the bike,great little open exhaust though...i just sanded it and gave it a few coats with black BBQ spray paint (then waited a bit and ran the bike to cook the paint) and has held well since...

Sweet. I wanna paint mine.