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Message started by Rocco on 06/27/09 at 14:24:54

Title: header wrap installed!!
Post by Rocco on 06/27/09 at 14:24:54

just put the pipe back on...back to wire wheelin the tank lol

lemmie know what u guys think?

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Title: Re: header wrap installed!!
Post by odvelasc on 06/27/09 at 17:38:35

might fine job. My looks terrible compared to yours because it fell a little short lol. Then the draw string on my tarp melted on the wrap lol
Push that tie down up towards the cylinder more to clean up the look and turn that srew on it upside down.

Title: Re: header wrap installed!!
Post by odvelasc on 06/27/09 at 17:40:35

The heat shield at the footpeg has got to go. Paint it flat or remove it and get washers so that the acorn nuts screw in tight.

Title: Re: header wrap installed!!
Post by Rocco on 06/27/09 at 22:48:00

my thoughts exactly brotha! ! if i can just ditch it and put washers i will...but i'm unsure about how much support it offers...what do u think?

Title: Re: header wrap installed!!
Post by odvelasc on 06/28/09 at 05:43:30


68555959553A0 wrote:
my thoughts exactly brotha! ! if i can just ditch it and put washers i will...but i'm unsure about how much support it offers...what do u think?


I was gonna do it and go get washers buuuut, my lady had the car and it felt questionable driving the bike because the pedal would be loose with out the washers lol.

Title: Re: header wrap installed!!
Post by odvelasc on 06/28/09 at 05:46:01

Honestly, paint that heat shield flat black as well. It looks good on the bike.

Title: Re: header wrap installed!!
Post by odvelasc on 06/28/09 at 05:51:46

Here is a pic of mine. Never mind the muffler. It is now fully sanded down and has the brushed metal look with a big blue spot that continues to reappear lol (A Little lean and backfiring) Pop, Pop!!

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Title: Re: header wrap installed!!
Post by Rocco on 06/28/09 at 09:34:50

bro that looks SWEEET! it looks awesome in black, is the prep the same for chrome? or can i just wire wheel the heck outta it then spray it?

i'm so glad i'm not alone in this "flat black and radiator hose clamp everything" theory!

i am going through backfire withdrawls!

Title: Re: header wrap installed!!
Post by Charon on 06/28/09 at 13:34:22

Personally, I think it is uglier than a mud fence. Flat black paint, a la KLR 650 it OK. Wrap - ugly.

Title: Re: header wrap installed!!
Post by Rocco on 06/28/09 at 20:27:43

well i friggin love the way it looks! each his own my friend.

people ask me all the time "y do u have a graveyard on your arm?"

i like different things then most peope....ask around i enjoy full contact fighting, black and grey tattoos, and more sugar then candy land.

i look @ my bike and smile because i did it myself, and the way I want it

thanks for your opinion though!

Title: Re: header wrap installed!!
Post by odvelasc on 06/29/09 at 10:20:46


6A575B5B57380 wrote:
well i friggin love the way it looks! each his own my friend.

people ask me all the time "y do u have a graveyard on your arm?"

i like different things then most peope....ask around i enjoy full contact fighting, black and grey tattoos, and more sugar then candy land.

i look @ my bike and smile because i did it myself, and the way I want it

thanks for your opinion though!


I sanded my cylinder heads and heat shield with 220 grit I believe. I did it until all shininess was gone. I cured the parts on a baking pan in the oven as per instruction on the rattle can. In terms of my right cylinder head, it started to peel. It was not dry enough before curing. I might redo it. I am too lazy and enjoying riding now that I have time.

Title: Re: header wrap installed!!
Post by Balderdash on 06/29/09 at 10:36:57

I think the chrome covers on the engine head should come off if you're blacking it out and taping it.  ( I didn't do it to mine but I like it).

Title: Re: header wrap installed!!
Post by Rocco on 06/29/09 at 10:46:16

that may be in order! can i just take them off? or i'll paint em black after i see how hard the muffler support is to paint!

Title: Re: header wrap installed!!
Post by Balderdash on 06/29/09 at 10:57:47


1D202C2C204F0 wrote:
that may be in order! can i just take them off? or i'll paint em black after i see how hard the muffler support is to paint!


One bolt can't come off the chrome engine cover on the left side unless you remove the head (it's an upside down bolt), you could cut it off through the fins but then you can't replace it later.  

I left my chrome covers off the last time I had the head off to replace the cam chain, I don't have any problems with the covers off less need to take the tank off for regular maintenance now.

Title: Re: header wrap installed!!
Post by Rocco on 06/29/09 at 11:05:54

sweet! it might be a little while before i do any more mods...i need to ride so bad it isn't funny!

i may do the brushed look or black....it's up in the air!

also i'm debating whether i should put the punisher logo on the tank or something custom like a dragon.....decisions decisions!

Title: Re: header wrap installed!!
Post by Yonuh Adisi on 06/29/09 at 11:24:33


5A79747C7D6A7C796B70180 wrote:
[quote author=1D202C2C204F0 link=1246137894/0#12 date=1246297576]that may be in order! can i just take them off? or i'll paint em black after i see how hard the muffler support is to paint!


One bolt can't come off the chrome engine cover on the left side unless you remove the head (it's an upside down bolt)[/quote]

Actually you only need to remove the head cover to get that bolt out, not the entire head.

Title: Re: header wrap installed!!
Post by Rocco on 06/29/09 at 11:39:22

awesome! thank u sir! what are your thoughts on the work in progress? i know you've done a little customizing yourself!  ;)

Title: Re: header wrap installed!!
Post by Balderdash on 06/29/09 at 12:07:41


0B3D3C273A13363B213B520 wrote:
Actually you only need to remove the head cover to get that bolt out, not the entire head.


True enough, but the head cover in this case is 12 bolts of different lengths and they should be replaced instead of re-torqued when they are removed, and you need to liquid gasket the entire thing to reinstall it, it's NOT like a valve cover at all.  I wouldn't want to take it off just to remove the chrome cover.  

It would be easier to buy a replacement bolt for the chrome cover should you ever want to reinstall it, that would be easier.

Title: Re: header wrap installed!!
Post by Rocco on 06/29/09 at 12:48:34

i see.....hmmmmm....got the gears turning! i'm open to any input as long as flat black or ratty-ness is involved! lol

Title: Re: header wrap installed!!
Post by pdbigt357 on 07/27/09 at 08:05:54

I have been considering doing some Linex or undercoat on some of the bike parts.  Adding texture to the parts also gives it a good look.  Linex is tuff stuff and I'm pretty sure you can paint it.

Title: Re: header wrap installed!!
Post by serenity3743 on 07/27/09 at 10:35:34


5A79747C7D6A7C796B70180 wrote:
[quote author=1D202C2C204F0 link=1246137894/0#12 date=1246297576]that may be in order! can i just take them off? or i'll paint em black after i see how hard the muffler support is to paint!


One bolt can't come off the chrome engine cover on the left side unless you remove the head (it's an upside down bolt), you could cut it off through the fins but then you can't replace it later.  

I left my chrome covers off the last time I had the head off to replace the cam chain, I don't have any problems with the covers off less need to take the tank off for regular maintenance now.[/quote]

The bolt in question can be removed.  But you don't have to remove the head, just the cam assembly that covers the head, a much easier job than removing the head.

Title: Re: header wrap installed!!
Post by voldigicam on 07/27/09 at 16:34:50

What is the purpose of wrapping the exhaust pipe?

Title: Re: header wrap installed!!
Post by odvelasc on 07/27/09 at 17:51:59


2A333038353B353F3D315C0 wrote:
What is the purpose of wrapping the exhaust pipe?



For me it is purely esthetic.  I love the look.

Title: Re: header wrap installed!!
Post by Charon on 07/28/09 at 17:28:19

Ignoring esthetics, probably impossible on a motorcycle board, the pipe wrap is an insulator. It can serve different purposes. It can insulate the surroundings, as when the pipe must run close to some other heat-sensitive part such as a fuel pump or a hydraulic slave cylinder. Or it can keep the heat in the pipe, such as when using a turbocharger where the exhaust heat makes the turbo more efficient. Wrapping a chrome motorcycle pipe is probably a sure way to make the pipe turn blue - or worse - so once it is done you can probably forget undoing it unless you replace the pipe or do not care about its appearance.

Title: Re: header wrap installed!!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/29/09 at 08:05:21

Or it can keep the heat in the pipe, such as when using a turbocharger where the exhaust heat makes the turbo more efficient.

I can see that between exhaust valve & turbo, but after the turbo it doesnt matter, does it?

Title: Re: header wrap installed!!
Post by Rogue_Cheddar on 07/29/09 at 10:09:09

I have wrap on my pipe so I know the look isn't for everybody.

Here's how I reply when somebody says to me:
"Why your bike sure is ugly!
"Maybe, but you're fn lookin at it! Ain't ya?"
:D

Title: Re: header wrap installed!!
Post by PerrydaSavage on 07/29/09 at 12:33:56

I think header wrap looks awesome ... especially if a tidy job is done ... Rats n' Bobbers are cool too! My LS is stock ... and will likely remain so for this season ... but I honestly dunno if I can hold out much longer before I Bobber-ize it!!

Title: Re: header wrap installed!!
Post by Oldfeller on 07/29/09 at 12:56:54

I wrap part of my header and pipe to protect my polyester blend pants from melting so durn frequently.   Looks OK to me, does the intended job.  

I prefer white but wind up dying the stuff with hot black paint once it gets stained up good with motor oil drooling from the air box.   Black isn't as pretty as white to me, but it looks better over the years as it hides all stains and is a renewable finish.  

And no, you can't paint it with hot white paint as the oil that impregnated the fiberglass stripping comes right on out through the white paint once it gets hot a time or two.

Black, she don't really matter if it tries to bleed through or not.

Title: Re: header wrap installed!!
Post by Bear_Rider on 07/29/09 at 14:17:38


7754595150475154465D350 wrote:
[quote author=0B3D3C273A13363B213B520 link=1246137894/15#15 date=1246299873] Actually you only need to remove the head cover to get that bolt out, not the entire head.


True enough, but the head cover in this case is 12 bolts of different lengths and they should be replaced instead of re-torqued when they are removed, and you need to liquid gasket the entire thing to reinstall it, it's NOT like a valve cover at all.  I wouldn't want to take it off just to remove the chrome cover.  

It would be easier to buy a replacement bolt for the chrome cover should you ever want to reinstall it, that would be easier.[/quote]

Just cut a piece of scrap fuel hose to slip over the bolt, then loc-tite the original nut and a washer on top to keep everything from rattling.

Title: Re: header wrap installed!!
Post by dhowe003 on 08/11/09 at 10:07:28

about the cover issue. I removed the bolt when I rebuilt the motor and I tapped the hole and got a bolt that is a bit bigger than the others so that I can install the covers later without having to take anything apart. If you just cut off the head of the bolt and remove it, you can do the same thing with a tap and new bolt that threads in from the top like the other three. I personally like the covers removed with the black out. I like that wrap you put on there. I was thinking of wrapping the lower end of my pipe with white between the heat shield and the muff, but I am still up in the air about it. how do think that would look?...

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