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Message started by mikestrikes on 06/24/09 at 10:20:02

Title: Turbo ?
Post by mikestrikes on 06/24/09 at 10:20:02

Who would be adventurous enough to want to turbo your savage ? I got a buddy who builds turbo kits for the Suzuki DR...
So I can get loads of info on tuning a single.....

Anyone ?

Nothing stupid, its an air cooled motor so it cant handle to much boost anyways. Its already low compression, mild cam'd....

Would handle 4-6 psi and use a small wizzer would start nice and low and not be so peaky, and no lag..... maybe an honest 50hp on pump gas.......

Title: Re: Turbo ?
Post by Skid Mark on 06/24/09 at 10:46:39

Whoo Hoo I'll get straps to hold me on the seat.

Interesting concept. What would drive the compressor?

Title: Re: Turbo ?
Post by diamond jim on 06/24/09 at 12:25:56

Here's a chart with turbo put on the M50 (800cc V-twin) with 4 lbs (Courtesy of Dark Knight over on M-J.com):

http://www.motorcycle-journal.com/forum/members/the+dark+knight-albums-turbo+install-picture520-boulevard-dyno-chart.jpg

Most of the items he used to do it:
Boost Gauge
SAAB 9-3 9-5 TD04HL-15T Turbocharger
Tial 38mm wastegate w/ small spring installed (5.8lbs spring)
Turbo Exhaust 3 Bolt Flange with Socket Ball collector
T2 Flange & Gasket
Tial 38mm Flanges
Flanges from Original exhaust (have the donut behind the flange machined out to 2 inch I.D.)
1 90 -4 Fitting
1 45 -4 Fitting
1 45 -8 Fitting
1 90 -8 Fitting
1 -8 Weld in Metal Fitting
1 12mm to -4 banjo Fitting
1 1/8npt to -4 Fitting
XRP -8 to -8 fitting pt# 980008 (screws into oil fill hole)
3 foot of -4 Line braided black or Stainless
3 foot of -8 Line braided
2" OD Mandrel Bends
2 1/4 OD Mandrel Bends
2 3/4 OD aluminum straight 2-3 inch long with bead roll (weld to turbo inlet for air filter)
3 inch thin wall alumminum pipe (intake)
2 inch OD straight aluminum pipe (Intake)
Flat plate of aluminum about 3/16 to 1/4 thick (intake)
1 PCV Valve From a Turbo Talon (DSM) Fitting that screws into the K&N SN-2580 Air Filter
Vaccum Hose For boost gauge and turbo to wastegate

The M50 exhaust mounts same as ours. In fact, when I've got the bike apart and want to start it without messing with the longshot exhaust, I just bolt on a shortened M50 front cylinder header pipe.
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh128/russ_diamond_jim/S4022076-1.jpg

So maybe a few parts of his design may be similar to what would be needed on the LS650. I imagine the stock internals are more than strong enough to handle a 30% increase in torque but it's probably a throw of the dice beyond that. It would be interesting doing a compression test after a few months of use to see how everything has held up. Does Wiseco offer a 2mm over piston with low friction coated skirt?

Title: Re: Turbo ?
Post by serowbot on 06/24/09 at 12:27:19

I've seen a pic of a Savage w/turbo... If I find it I'll post it.
Wouldn't want one myself,... I like the simplicity...

Title: Re: Turbo ?
Post by mikestrikes on 06/24/09 at 15:22:14

33352C3F3368675E0 wrote:

Whoo Hoo I'll get straps to hold me on the seat.

Interesting concept. What would drive the compressor?

Exhaust ! Run a small pipe next to the head back to were the carb is... in place is a small turbo, carb hooks to it on the otherside...

Title: Re: Turbo ?
Post by kevinphan on 06/28/09 at 18:49:49

Hmm I'm interested in this, would he supply the parts? Besides turbo?

Title: Re: Turbo ?
Post by Demin on 06/28/09 at 18:55:06

[quote author=6642404E587F5942404E582B0 link=1245864002/0#0 date=1245864002][b]Who would be adventurous enough to want to turbo your savage ? I got a buddy who builds turbo kits for the Suzuki DR... [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif] [smiley=vrolijk_26.gif] [smiley=vrolijk_26.gif]ME ME ME. ;D

Title: Re: Turbo ?
Post by serowbot on 06/28/09 at 19:00:12

http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt82/serowbot/STriebe.jpg?t=1246240788

Title: Re: Turbo ?
Post by kevinphan on 06/28/09 at 19:04:22

Need some close ups of that! Looks wild!

Title: Re: Turbo ?
Post by mikestrikes on 06/28/09 at 19:18:34

I would supply everything, turbo and all..

I would do it to mine first, and after its all running right make up an exact set like I have and sell that to who ever wants it.... my buddy would help me out with tune'n tips and tricks for a single.

Title: Re: Turbo ?
Post by kevinphan on 06/28/09 at 19:39:21

5276747A6C4B6D76747A6C1F0 wrote:

Let me know because I'm definitely interested!

Title: Re: Turbo ?
Post by mikestrikes on 06/29/09 at 09:20:17

Quote:
kevinphan
Let me know because I'm definitely interested!

Well when I'm ready you would have to be a little more than interested........ :-?

How much would you be willing to pay for a kit ? That way I know about how much I would be looking at spending on it myself..

Title: Re: Turbo ?
Post by kevinphan on 06/29/09 at 09:24:50

Let me know if you could get an estimate and I'll be more than happy to send a deposit!

Title: Re: Turbo ?
Post by kevinphan on 06/29/09 at 10:05:09

If it's a brand new turbo depending on the size and trim around 100-300 turbo alone. Then all the piping maybe another 200? I'm not sure.

Title: Re: Turbo ?
Post by mikestrikes on 06/29/09 at 10:30:23

I'll find out more today..... I wont charge hardly anything but for the parts mostly....
I'll get back after a parts check.

Title: Re: Turbo ?
Post by ineclipse on 07/08/09 at 15:48:12

ya'll seriously turboing this beast? geez.

...

...

... alright count me in.

Title: Re: Turbo ?
Post by mikestrikes on 07/09/09 at 11:17:53

Well if anyone "REALLY" wants this we need to grab one of these first !

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RHB3-Turbocharger-Motorcycle-Quad-Small-Turbo-RHB31_W0QQitemZ320393009613QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item4a98e959cd&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1171

Title: Re: Turbo ?
Post by furious70 on 07/09/09 at 13:20:57

I'd be more interested in a turbo kit for my mean streak ;D

subscribing to see where this goes tho.....I'm a turbo junkie.

Title: Re: Turbo ?
Post by mikestrikes on 07/14/09 at 11:33:24

So no one wants it ? I will turbo mine thats for sure.
But if you buy the main parts I will put it all together and its yours for the cost of the parts only.
After that it will cost you $1000 or more for a kit.

I will build a new airbox, header and mounts.
We need this turbo.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RHB3-Turbocharger-Motorcycle-Quad-Small-Turbo-...

And this carb.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HARLEY-DAVIDSON-CV-CARB-27490-96_W0QQitemZ260442744973QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotorcycles_Parts_Accessories?hash=item3ca398e88d&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1171