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Message started by Rocco on 06/22/09 at 08:20:11

Title: header wrap and paint ?
Post by Rocco on 06/22/09 at 08:20:11

i'm getting black header wrap on wednesday, do i use silicone or water? the guy @ cycle gear said either or. what works best? the roll is 20 bucks or a kit with silicone spray for 60. if i need the silicone spray i'll get it myself.

and i'm about to start prepping the side panels and front fender for paint. what grit sandpaper do i use before the primer? and after? and what rattle can brand is good?

Title: Re: header wrap and paint ?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/22/09 at 09:00:09

IDK about what grit to use, but the scratches have to be very fine or theyll show thru primer.

As for using any kind of silicone around where you will be painting or things you will paint, DONT,,silicone causes fisheye. Use tack cloths & clean the heck outta your parts b4 paint goes down.

Title: Re: header wrap and paint ?
Post by odvelasc on 06/22/09 at 15:40:17

764B47474B240 wrote:

Scuff with a low grit such as 120 in order to start removing any paint. You could then sand down with a 220 or so. Maybe finish with a 380 or just under. I love the look of header wrap. I vote for header wrap on your pipe.

Title: Re: header wrap and paint ?
Post by Rocco on 06/22/09 at 21:57:47

i am picking up the roll of black 2morrow! i can't w8! all who agree with header wrap say "i"....."I"!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: header wrap and paint ?
Post by BurnPgh on 06/22/09 at 22:01:32

you might not be so enthused once you ride with it. It'll stink something awful the first while riding and also when you get caught in the rain. Some complain wrap causes the header to rust aswell.

Title: Re: header wrap and paint ?
Post by Rocco on 06/22/09 at 22:07:20

thanks for the heads up, if it stinks that bad i'll ride faster and outrun the smell lol

Title: Re: header wrap and paint ?
Post by cornfuzed on 06/22/09 at 22:11:29

073A36363A550 wrote:

i am picking up the roll of black 2morrow! i can't w8! all who agree with header wrap say "i"....."I"!!!!!!!!

;D ;D Yer too much buddy ;D ;D Hey lemme know how that goes... And where in the world did you get the wrap?? I checked at the stealership ..75.00 >:( >:( And checked Oreilleys Auto .. 55..00 >:( For a big roll.. Heck i just need like 10 ft... i think.. :-/

Title: Re: header wrap and paint ?
Post by Rocco on 06/22/09 at 22:22:14

hahaha too much dew will do that to u! i'm not the most normal person haha

cycle gear man, they have online stores if there isn't one near u. i think it's 20 bucks for 15 foot or something like that. they only have one roll of black right now, so i'll see how that goes and order more if needed!!

and i'll def post the new paint and wrap!!!

Title: Re: header wrap and paint ?
Post by cornfuzed on 06/22/09 at 22:30:21

033E32323E510 wrote:

;D Good point but are any of us here normal?? We smile when we are snuffed by dudes on a harley and laugh at them driving by their F250 Pulled over to help fix their now broke down harley ... cool buddy lemme know how that goes... definitely wanting to go wrap..

Title: Re: header wrap and paint ?
Post by Rocco on 06/22/09 at 22:57:41

yeah i think there's a little compensation issue when they go for the harley and look down on us! lol

on the bright side, we can do our own oil changes haha

Title: Re: header wrap and paint ?
Post by kevinphan on 06/22/09 at 23:48:09

When your finished wrapping, let it air dry then bolt it up and run the bike for a couple of minutes so it could start curing, then shut it off and let it cool down. After that I took it for a spin and boy was I pumped, it did smell like complete crap that gave me a head ache but was well worth it.

Title: Re: header wrap and paint ?
Post by Rocco on 06/23/09 at 07:39:18

thanks for the tip bro! and i am more then willing to be a little nasty smellin in trade of looking awesome and maybe gaining a little horsepower.

i'll just take 441 where there's paper factory or a dog food factory and won't know the difference lol

Title: Re: header wrap and paint ?
Post by odvelasc on 06/23/09 at 15:05:56

I wrapped my bike to judge how much I needed. I then cut off more than I needed because i measured loosely. I then soaked my wrap for an hour. This makes wrap tighten and grip better. Use rubber gloves and go somewhere you dont mind getting colored water on. If your hands are not hurting while you wrap, you are not going tight enough. Start at the point where you connect your muffler (make sure muff is removed), and wrap around itself twice. Then tie it down with the metal tie downs it should have come with. Then start wrapping with quarter inch overlaps and boy your hands better hurt while wrapping. Wrap until an inch from the port at the cylinder is what I was told. Then tie that down with the little metal tie downs. I got mine from the Harley shop and it came with tie downs. Good luck.

Title: Re: header wrap and paint ?
Post by Rogue_Cheddar on 06/23/09 at 15:45:26

I didn't soak my wrap, still tight as the day I put it on. It will stink and smoke like crazy for a day or two. Avoid red lights at all costs. Your lungs will thank you later. :D

Title: Re: header wrap and paint ?
Post by odvelasc on 06/23/09 at 18:17:23

19242C3E2E1408232E2F2F2A394B0 wrote:

I didn't soak my wrap, still tight as the day I put it on. It will stink and smoke like crazy for a day or two. Avoid red lights at all costs. Your lungs will thank you later. :D

I found mine a bit slipper and not grabbing when i tried it dry. It gripped well when soaked. I let my exhaust try for 2 days before mounting and running it. I am sure running is faster to dry, but I never got the stink or smoke. I had rain for a couple of days so I took the car to work for the time the wrap dried. Gloves are a must as this stuff is itchy. Which evey way works, have fun with it and post some pics Backfire Man (Rocco) lol!

Title: Re: header wrap and paint ?
Post by Rocco on 06/23/09 at 19:19:36

thanks for the heads up guys! i am totally diggin backfire man! like a crazed super hero! lol

yeah i'll probably use radiator hose clamps as mine didn't come with wire. and i didn't know i had 2 remove the muffler i'll take off those 2 chrome supports as well and put them back on after i wrap.

it's raining like crazy down here, so no playing with the bike 2nite(i don't have a garage, all in my backyard) lol

here's a couple of pics of me paintin with my homemade stands...and i do mean home made!

http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/110/l_a58dce43f4ae4cbfb67263c9b9a1f79c.jpg

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/106/l_789588625f214598af470e6882b67ec3.jpg

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/95/l_42f01f599f704b47b51510fb3ad8caeb.jpg

Title: Re: header wrap and paint ?
Post by PerrydaSavage on 06/24/09 at 03:20:33

Cool stuff gents! 8-) Have heard that wrap (which is oh-so freakin' cool lookin'!) may cause your header to rust underneath the wrap ... how 'bout painting the header first with black high-heat paint, let dry, soak wrap and then wrap yer pipe?!
Think this would work prevent the rusting beneath the wrap?

Title: Re: header wrap and paint ?
Post by odvelasc on 06/24/09 at 04:17:36

31041313180500320017000604610 wrote:

you gotta cure that pipe or the paint will just come off from the the water on the wrap lol. Umm Harley dudes told me I should not have a rust issue. I already had rust on my pipe up near the cylinder. I sanded that with a 1200grit, very lightly albeit. Then I let a rust removing gel sit for about 5 minutes and wiped that off with a clean, damp cloth and tadah!! Perry, should be able to get the gel at the automotive section of crappy tire.

Title: Re: header wrap and paint ?
Post by Rocco on 06/24/09 at 07:18:31

um...if it rusts it'll just get louder right? will it backfire more? ok i'm kiddin!

u can't see in the pic, but a huge june bug landed on the side panel, and swam across my wet paint. i tried sanding while wet, doesn't really work. so the one piece isn't perfect, but it'll do for now!

it's nice out 2day, so after i take my bro 2 see transformers 2 i might be able to put the beast back 2gether and maybe 2nite start the header wrap. fingers crossed!