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Title: Dyna Muffler Help Post by prechermike on 06/10/09 at 13:36:45 OK, I got my brand new HD Dyna slip on muffler yesterday. I looked this afternoon and as I suspected my clamps and such on my 87 are rusted probably to the point of breaking off (that is the way it usually works). I sprayed them with some wd40 kind of stuff and I am sure I can break them off. If I break the clamp bolt, I guess I can take some kind of grinder and get down there and get the clamp off. Will the muffler then slip off as it is supposed to do, or will it be grown together as well. Then what about the surface of the header pipe, will I be able to get that to seal or will I need to smooth that as well? I would love to start on this in the morning, I might even work tonight so I can. I am not too worried about the mounting bolts breaking, I am sure they will, but I think I can just slide the old muffler off. So, am I on the right track? Any suggestions? I thought about taking the header off at the engine but that may create more issues with sealing that back on. Thanks |
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Title: Re: Dyna Muffler Help Post by John_D on 06/10/09 at 13:43:28 When I took mine apart ('08), there was a fibery kinda seal between the header pipe and the muffler. If yours came with that, it may have helped keep them from growing together. If not, you may have to use the grinder to get things apart, and some emory cloth or sandpaper to smooth the header pipe back down. As far as removing the header from the bike, I had to in order to get a good angle of attack on the screws that hold the factory heat sheild on (blankety blank phillips head! >:(). To get the muffler to seal onto the header, I used the goop that everyone else recommended, and it seems to be working so far; of course I used the heavy duty u-bolt clamps too. I also haven't noticed a leak where the header goes into the block, but if it starts, it's easy to get to with a replacement gasket. Good luck with yours! ;) |
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Title: Re: Dyna Muffler Help Post by diamond jim on 06/10/09 at 15:15:15 By goop do you mean Amish pipe welder? Cause I don't have a clamp on mine. It fit's snug. I could slide the exhaust off the header by hand albeit it had to be a straight pull. The the goop sealed the two together into one unit. |
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Title: Re: Dyna Muffler Help Post by John_D on 06/10/09 at 16:29:30 Yep Jim, although I had the tan goop instead of the grey goop, which is what you had I think. I used the clamps as a "just in case". Besides, they were cheap. ;D |
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Title: Re: Dyna Muffler Help Post by prechermike on 06/11/09 at 07:42:10 OK the dyna is on! It really wasn't too bad a job, maybe 2 hours total, including a trip to the mufler shop. I did take the whole thing off at the engine, that did make it easier. As I predicted two of the three bolts broke off, but having it where I could get to it really made a difference. I took the muffler and the header to the muffler shop and got a piece of scrap from the barrell, welded it to the header, opened the muffler a tad and gave the man $5. Once home it was no trouble to bolt everything back together. The sound is cool, there is alot of popping going on. I am sure I need to rejet now. I need to get a heat sheild back over the joint. All in all not a bad couple of hours. |
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Title: Re: Dyna Muffler Help Post by prechermike on 06/11/09 at 10:19:39 I went back and checked my connections, the head bolts were loose, so I tightened then up and that really cut the popping down. I probably still need to rejet, but there are other things that are more pressing right now. |
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Title: Re: Dyna Muffler Help Post by John_D on 06/11/09 at 13:48:27 Congrats! I'm wondering if some of the popping I still get is due to a tiny leak somewhere. Regarding the jetting, one of the other folks added a Dyna muffler, and K&N cartridge filter, and got by on the stock jets. I'm considering switching the filter too, eventually. Really don't wanna tear off the carb to get to the jets! ;D |
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Title: Re: Dyna Muffler Help Post by verslagen1 on 06/11/09 at 14:07:47 6F787973787E762A2F2C2D2F1D0 wrote:
Yawimp! get a jet set from lancer. Loosen the carb duct clamps or use a mirror. remove bowl screws, they may need convincing with a small vice grip. drop bowl. use a short stubby flat blade screwdriver and remove the main. replace as required. pilot optional. then replace bowl with allen socket head screws. You can tell the wife it's difficult but not us, well at least half of us anyway. |
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Title: Re: Dyna Muffler Help Post by bill67 on 06/11/09 at 15:02:09 There is no need at all to take off the carb to change the jets,Just take the fuel bowl off. |
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Title: Re: Dyna Muffler Help Post by John_D on 06/11/09 at 15:25:00 382B3C3D222F292B207F4E0 wrote:
Yawimp! get a jet set from lancer. Loosen the carb duct clamps or use a mirror. remove bowl screws, they may need convincing with a small vice grip. drop bowl. use a short stubby flat blade screwdriver and remove the main. replace as required. pilot optional. then replace bowl with allen socket head screws. You can tell the wife it's difficult but not us, well at least half of us anyway.[/quote] I know, I know. And I don't have to worry about playing up the difficulty to the wife. Divorced years ago, that's why I can afford the bike! :D The rejet is one of the next mods on my list, along with fork brace. Vacation in a couple weeks is at the top of my budgetary requirements though. Yeehaw! ;D |
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Title: Re: Dyna Muffler Help Post by prechermike on 06/11/09 at 19:37:25 After I went back and tightened the header bolts I also adjusted the mix screw. I really think that about took care of my popping, the leaks were the main culprit. Don't tell Rocco, but the backfire is almost completely gone. ;) I have a stock airbox and stock filter and stock jets as well. |
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Title: Re: Dyna Muffler Help Post by John_D on 06/12/09 at 00:40:36 474552545F52455A5E5C52370 wrote:
That's why I'm not in a huge hurry to change mine. If yours works fine, I can live with mine for a while. Besides, I haven't noticed any bluing of the header (beyond what it was from the factory lean settings), so it must not be running any hotter than before. :-/ |
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Title: Re: Dyna Muffler Help Post by prechermike on 06/13/09 at 18:45:55 I got the offical HD heat sheilds for my muffler and made them fit today, it is amazing what a grinder can accomplish! ;D That really dressed up the pipe and was the right finishing touch! :) |
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Title: Re: Dyna Muffler Help Post by John_D on 06/13/09 at 22:21:06 6D6F787E75786F707476781D0 wrote:
Yeah, heat shields really make things look "finished". Of course you realize we all want to see pics now! ;D |
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Title: Re: Dyna Muffler Help Post by PerrydaSavage on 06/14/09 at 09:56:55 How 'bout some pics please? Would love to see your Dyna muff install! 8-) |
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Title: Re: Dyna Muffler Help Post by prechermike on 06/15/09 at 05:23:20 I tried to load my pictures, but it would not let me, can someone help me? JUST KIDDING! Here are the pictures: http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/98/l_f66b882538864d04a6d58dbedcadc81d.jpg That guy was not much better a welder than I am! Bigger picture: http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/89/l_6d712336dc4545f5a7f8aab3dfd5302a.jpg The weld and the HD clamp sealed things up nice and tight. Here is the finished product: http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/73/l_bb8261bf095e4da99f2a67e7fbd5a2fc.jpg http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/70/l_0b795fe475bb4b65ac6d063ed6c7972c.jpg I am very pleased with the way this turned out. |
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Title: Re: Dyna Muffler Help Post by Rustbucket on 06/15/09 at 12:51:27 That heat shield look great! Nice clean looking install.. |
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Title: Re: Dyna Muffler Help Post by prechermike on 06/15/09 at 13:09:46 To borrow a phrase: Crappity Smack! >:( The HD bolt I used to attach the muffler to the bracket was longer than the Suzuki one. The result is a nasty ryb against my tire. I had checked that thing more than once, I thought, but today I noticed the rubbed place. My tire is about wore out anyway, so it is not that big a deal. But take a word from the wise, make sure the bolts do not rub the tire. And keep on checking. |
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Title: Re: Dyna Muffler Help Post by John_D on 06/15/09 at 22:39:23 Looks awesome, especially the heat shield! And when I read the first line about posting pics, I could almost see the longtimers around here banging their collective heads on their desks. ;D |
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Title: Re: Dyna Muffler Help Post by prechermike on 06/16/09 at 04:50:41 OK, my inital panic attack is over. I saw the gouge on my tire yesterday when I was in town and realized what was happening. My first paniced thought was, "I am not going to makeit home." But then I decided to just go and be careful, obviously I made it. I then took a side grinder to the offending bolt, that will show him! This morning I went out and really looked at the gouge and it does not look so bad in the morning light. Maybe it is not so much a gouge as a very polished strip around the edge of the tire. There is a little of the rubber gone, but really not that much. I feel much better about the tire, but am still going to go ahead and get one sooner rather than later. I am checking prices and installation around here now. I am still loving the pipe! :D |
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Title: Re: Dyna Muffler Help Post by prechermike on 06/16/09 at 05:02:58 I measured the depth of the gouge with this: http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/94/l_e9e339f08cd74be88545e9ea5287d2dc.jpg And there was really no diference, the way I measured it. I tried a couple of ways, to see if there was a difference, but didn't find any. By the way, does anyone know what that thing really is? It belonged to my father in law, says "No. 513 Pratt & Whitney Made in USA" and is marked with many measurements. You screw the handle down and a rod comes out the bottom, to measure depth I guess. He had ALOT of tools that I have no idea what they are. :-? |
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Title: Re: Dyna Muffler Help Post by John_D on 06/16/09 at 06:56:38 I always call 'em a depth micrometer, but not sure if that's correct. :-/ That's the function it serves though, only instead of being a "C" shape to measure outside dim., it's set up to measure depth. |
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Title: Re: Dyna Muffler Help Post by boofer on 09/17/09 at 22:37:48 Precher, I think that is a supermicrometer. My father-in-law was a tool and die maker and had a huge box of T&D tools. When he died I got a small Starret "C" micrometer. I told his widow that his tools were very valuable and some young guy starting out would kill to get such a set. Her cousin who worked at the same plant sold them for her. I do know that it is no longer made, because everyone has gone Digital with their readouts. No longer have to have perfect eyes to read measurements. Boofer |
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Title: Re: Dyna Muffler Help Post by Dj12midnit on 09/17/09 at 22:42:52 But you never said where you got the heat shield from... |
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Title: Re: Dyna Muffler Help Post by verslagen1 on 09/17/09 at 22:48:57 7C7E696F64697E616567690C0 wrote:
That's a depth micrometer micrometer is a term applied to many measuring instruments with those type of markings. The knob at the top more or less spins with a little friction. This allows someone without the correct feel to make accurate measurements as the big knob is direct drive and a doofus could get any measurement he wanted. The tip can have various shapes depending on use Pratt & whitney is a big aircraft company now, but there were many mfr's of these kinds of tools, wouldn't doubt that's how P&W got it's start. |
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Title: Re: Dyna Muffler Help Post by Rocco on 09/18/09 at 08:02:09 prechermike say it isn't so! why would u want to silence the shotgun warning shot?!?! lol i just put my sporty muffler on and she pops louder now! BUT on shut off no more bang just a poof like a fire was extinguished lol! but i 4give u if u aren't into scaring people when u roll off the throttle under a bridge ! lol here in west palm that's a big hit ;D |
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