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Message started by Rocco on 06/01/09 at 23:21:05

Title: ? on helmet differences
Post by Rocco on 06/01/09 at 23:21:05

my girlfriend needs a helmet, and i have a question about them.

if they are DOT or SNELL or both approved, what is the difference between a $600 shoei or a $150 scorpion?

is it the name? just the brand? or is there something else? if they are both pass the test specs what is the difference? because for $600 i can put a whole lotta gas in the savage!! lol

Title: Re: ? on helmet differences
Post by serowbot on 06/01/09 at 23:33:03

"If you got a $150 head,.... buy a $150 helmet".....
I actually have a $10 head.... :-?

Really?.... have her try them on...
Different companies helmets have different shapes.  
Beyond that,.... I find Shoei's comfortable, but heavy...
Scorpion's and HJC's, are a bargain, and very good....

Main thing, try them on.  And then try on others,... and then try them on again...
;)

and if you think she's pretty,.... buy her a full-face....
and I know you do......

Title: Re: ? on helmet differences
Post by John_D on 06/01/09 at 23:33:17

Not having owned very many helmets, I can't give a real definitive answer, but design, fit, finish, etc. might be some of the differences.  I know my $300+ Arai Profile is the most comfy FF I've ever tried on.  Of course I've got an odd shaped melon apparantly. ::)

Plus I'm sure you are paying some for the name.

Edit: serowbot beat me to the post, but raised a point that was the reason I picked the lid I did.  It's shape is a longer oval, as opposed to the more round shape the standard helmet has.  Most of them either dug into my forehead, or if not that, were too loose on the sides.

Title: Re: ? on helmet differences
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/01/09 at 23:36:44

A helmet that fits "Just right" right now will be loose in a month.
The High Dollar helmets dont save yer life any better than the $140.00 flip face HJC.( IIRC thats about what I paid)
The flip face or full face comes highly recommended. I like the flip, because I wear glasses. I stuck my face in the back of the drivers cab corner on a small pickup. A regular helmet would have left me hurt seriously or dead.

Title: Re: ? on helmet differences
Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 06/02/09 at 06:46:02

Rocco -

And, in addition to what others have said - get her a brightly colored helmet that can be SEEN and attracts drivers' attention.

I still don't understand why riders wear black jackets and black helmets, then complain when a driver doesn't see them.  My jacket is bumble bee yellow and my helmet is candy apple red.

Title: Re: ? on helmet differences
Post by Gort on 06/02/09 at 06:59:09

Read this...it answers your question about the differences and caused a controversy:

http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/gearbox/motorcycle_helmet_review/index.html

Title: Re: ? on helmet differences
Post by bill67 on 06/02/09 at 08:24:10

  I think their all pretty equal in a small crash,But if your head is sitting on the other side of the road price makes no difference. You do pay for name in high price helmets,Get one thats fits like you like,and you like the looks,I alway buy white cooler and shows up.

Title: Re: ? on helmet differences
Post by Rocco on 06/02/09 at 09:26:18

i knew it had to be the name! the salesman @ cycle gear said the higher priced helmets have more research into them, that's all. and he was cool and admitted u do pay for a name!

i wear a full face, and def want her to have one(i think she's GORGEOUS and would like 2 keep it that way!) so we're looking into some of the scorpions or seven zero seven's that are mildly bright. and luckily she's not a "butterfly and pink" girl, she found a sick ass one with a dragon on it that looked like my tat....not a mystery y we're 2gether!

and speaking of black on black on black, my helmet is grey and black, my bike is black and my jacket is black grey red and reflective so that helps but the 3rd set of LED accent lights came in today so i'm puttin them up 2nite after sparring, and of course i'll put pics up!!


and yes that's a WHAT WOULD CHUCK NORRIS DO? tshirt!

http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/18/l_0896fe21fac94ce5be674ec3044eb248.jpg

Title: Re: ? on helmet differences
Post by Phelonius on 06/02/09 at 09:28:53

Always buy a helmet the same shape as your head.

Phelonius

Title: Re: ? on helmet differences
Post by John_D on 06/02/09 at 22:43:19

I must say I'm jealous....




that's an awesome shirt! :D

Why, what'd y'all think I was gonna say?  Get yer minds outta the gutter! ;D

All kidding aside, you're a lucky man: cute, and likes non-frilly bikes and stuff.

Title: Re: ? on helmet differences
Post by serowbot on 06/02/09 at 22:47:55


7149444D4E4F485452210 wrote:
Always buy a helmet the same shape as your head.

Phelonius

Except, when it's for your girl..... ;D


Ride safe,
Double safe with your girl....
;)

Title: Re: ? on helmet differences
Post by Rocco on 06/02/09 at 23:23:11

Posted by: John_D Posted on: Today at 22:43:19
I must say I'm jealous....

that's an awesome shirt!

Why, what'd y'all think I was gonna say?  Get yer minds outta the gutter!

All kidding aside, you're a lucky man: cute, and likes non-frilly bikes and stuff.


HAHAHAHA i know right? the shirt i got @ hot topic, and not sure what i did to deserve her!

we're looking into helmets and jacket for her, better safe then sorry ESPECIALLY when it comes to your woman lol

Title: Re: ? on helmet differences
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/03/09 at 01:14:15

Gloves, dont forget gloves..
complete coverage footwear, cover that ankle bone.
Someone posted some pics of a gal who got blown off her B/F's crotch rocket at high speed. The skin grafts looked like hell.

Title: Re: ? on helmet differences
Post by alcoa on 06/03/09 at 07:21:06

go on the net look up gmax helmets they have leds red lights in the back of the helmet that stay on or flash and you can shut them off. about $120.00 ;)

Title: Re: ? on helmet differences
Post by Rocco on 06/03/09 at 09:18:07

she has these knee high leather boots that she's never worn, so i'll talk her into wearin em!!

and gloves, good point!

yeah i was lookin @ some seven zero seven helmets that were on sale, 100 bucks i think. not bad @ all!!

but the light on the helmet would be a nice touch!

Title: Re: ? on helmet differences
Post by PTRider on 06/03/09 at 09:39:45

Here's the new 2008 British SHARP (Safety Helmet Assessment and Rating Programme) helmet listing
http://sharp.direct.gov.uk/

Note that some brands sold in the US are not sold in the UK and therefor not listed, or some brands may put different names on the same models in different markets and they aren't listed under the US model name.

£1 = $1.65  (One British pound sterling = a dollar sixty-five)

So...I'd choose a helmet that meets DOT* and had five or four stars in the SHARP rating, that is an excellent snug fit, has a removable washable liner, and great ventilation.  Bright color so drivers have less chance of doing something stupid and hitting you.  Full face for protection (or 100% lock-down SHARP rated flip-up).  (*And every helmet legally sold in the US must meet the DOT rating.)

Title: Re: ? on helmet differences
Post by False Illusion on 06/03/09 at 15:09:52

3rd set of LED accent lights came in today so i'm puttin them up 2nite after sparring, and of course i'll put pics up!!


Rocco...I've been lookin' into LEDs for my bike...I'd love to see your bike lit up, man...

Title: Re: ? on helmet differences
Post by Rocco on 06/03/09 at 20:27:53

http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/110/l_38dba6ea9d29472c96f4bcd8de60064a.jpg

it was so hard to get a pic of it, i just got the camera and haven't figured out how to take night pics without flash! i even tried covering the flash with my finger! lol

they look so much better in person(they're purple btw not blue...darn camera! lol)

i bought the "pods" from cycle gear and they were kind of a pain but not too bad to install. they glow around me too as i ride, i wanted to increase visibility on the sides and i think this did the trick!!!

i def recommend them 2 all!!

Title: Re: ? on helmet differences
Post by John_D on 06/04/09 at 02:27:25


696A6B6C6D6E6F6061580 wrote:
go on the net look up gmax helmets they have leds red lights in the back of the helmet that stay on or flash and you can shut them off. about $120.00 ;)

There's also the option of one of these.  I considered one when my schedule had me riding to work at 10pm, but it's since changed to where I'm in the daylight a little more.  Still thinking about getting one though.

http://www.cyclegear.com/spgm.cfm?L1=5000&L2=1&L3=107&L4=&item=BUZ_1044081
http://www.cyclegear.com/images/electronics/streetfx_helmet_light_MD.jpg

Title: Re: ? on helmet differences
Post by Rocco on 06/04/09 at 08:41:27

yeah i was looking @ those too! i just didn't want to have a sticky thing on my helmet after it was done. how much are they cuz i might get one for me and one for her.

better safe then sorry when it comes to keeping your skin on!! lol my roadrash isn't bad from what i've seen!!!!!

Title: Re: ? on helmet differences
Post by John_D on 06/04/09 at 13:27:21


5E636F6F630C0 wrote:
yeah i was looking @ those too! i just didn't want to have a sticky thing on my helmet after it was done. how much are they cuz i might get one for me and one for her.

better safe then sorry when it comes to keeping your skin on!! lol my roadrash isn't bad from what i've seen!!!!!

Pretty cheap, $10.  The sticky is a disadvantage, but from taking the sticker off my gas tank I know one of those little alcohol wipes from a firstaid kit takes the sticky off pretty good.  Another disadvantage is it seems to be motion activated, no on/off.  So if you're just moving your helmet around the house, you'd be lighting up! 8-)

Title: Re: ? on helmet differences
Post by Jay on 06/04/09 at 16:34:00


213E383F22251424142C3E32794B0 wrote:
Gloves, dont forget gloves..
complete coverage footwear, cover that ankle bone.
Someone posted some pics of a gal who got blown off her B/F's crotch rocket at high speed. The skin grafts looked like hell.


You definately want to protect that gal, she's gorgeous!
Justin's right about full gear. The girl he's refeerring to is known online as the "roadrash queen". She has a website. Scary pics. You can die from road rash, if enough of your skin comes off. It's just like having a burn over the same area. Lose enough skin, you can't keep fluids in or infections out. ATGATT.

Title: Re: ? on helmet differences
Post by Rocco on 06/04/09 at 18:49:10

yeah, i carry my helmet with me so the battery might die sooner then expected!

and i def want her to enjoy herself AND be safe! thank u! not sure how i got her! but i did! she's the first girl i've had that isn't a psycho, oh and i've had some crazy ones!

i'm thinking the halo for hers as well as the little sticky light!

Title: Re: ? on helmet differences
Post by False Illusion on 06/04/09 at 18:54:52


734E42424E210 wrote:
http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/110/l_38dba6ea9d29472c96f4bcd8de60064a.jpg

it was so hard to get a pic of it, i just got the camera and haven't figured out how to take night pics without flash! i even tried covering the flash with my finger! lol

they look so much better in person(they're purple btw not blue...darn camera! lol)

i bought the "pods" from cycle gear and they were kind of a pain but not too bad to install. they glow around me too as i ride, i wanted to increase visibility on the sides and i think this did the trick!!!

i def recommend them 2 all!!


Sweet...yep..I'm a bit closer now to installing them on my ride...thanks, Rocco ;)

Title: Re: ? on helmet differences
Post by Rocco on 06/04/09 at 18:59:27


212D3E3835224C0 wrote:
[quote author=734E42424E210 link=1243923665/15#17 date=1244086073]http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/110/l_38dba6ea9d29472c96f4bcd8de60064a.jpg

it was so hard to get a pic of it, i just got the camera and haven't figured out how to take night pics without flash! i even tried covering the flash with my finger! lol

they look so much better in person(they're purple btw not blue...darn camera! lol)

i bought the "pods" from cycle gear and they were kind of a pain but not too bad to install. they glow around me too as i ride, i wanted to increase visibility on the sides and i think this did the trick!!!

i def recommend them 2 all!!


Sweet...yep..I'm a bit closer now to installing them on my ride...thanks, Rocco ;)[/quote]


they have a bunch of colors and they look awesome! i see them on alot of sport bikes but a chopper had green ones and that's when i knew i had 2 have them! glad i could help brotha!!!

Title: Re: ? on helmet differences
Post by Scottler on 06/05/09 at 19:57:44

For those of you who don't want to stick the battery powered LED's on the back of your helmet, what about some reflective tape?  It wouldn't solve the sticky problem, but it would fix the battery issue.  My helmet is yellow (which I actually don't like, and I want a black one), but when I do finally get off my sofa to go get it, I'm going to throw some tape around the edges.

Title: Re: ? on helmet differences
Post by Savage_Amusement on 06/05/09 at 20:01:01

They have reflective tape that looks black until light hits it. That is what I'm planning on getting.

Title: Re: ? on helmet differences
Post by JohnBoy on 06/05/09 at 20:18:42

I put a square of 3M  reflective tape on the back of my helment and my wife's. The tape was about 2 inches wide and the square was six inches on a side. At 100 yards it was as bright as a 3 cell flashlight. Way brighter than her brake light (and that was reflected light). If memory serves it was 25 foot rolls for about 25.00. very tight bond!

Title: Re: ? on helmet differences
Post by Rocco on 06/05/09 at 21:48:07

u can't beat that with a stick! maybe i'll wrap her completely with the extra tape! lol

seriously though, it's barely safe during the day, let alone @ night!

Title: Re: ? on helmet differences
Post by FreeSpirit on 06/06/09 at 01:55:06

Rocco,where did you get the lights? and were they hard to put on? I always wanted Blue,just like it looks in the picture!

(although I realize yours are really purple)

Title: Re: ? on helmet differences
Post by Scottler on 06/06/09 at 05:05:55

BLACK reflective tape????  Sign me up!

Hey, out of curiosity, what is the street legality of the LED accent lighting?  I know it varies state by state, but I can't seem to find much of anything anywhere about it.

Title: Re: ? on helmet differences
Post by babbalou on 06/06/09 at 08:37:49

http://www.scorpionhelmetdeals.com/ This is probably my next helmet. I've got the EXO 400 in black now, nice helmet for $139 but the neon yellow EXO 700 would be much more visible. It's fairly fog-free in the cold & fairly quiet on the highways with the optional chin piece fitted to block wind noise. I think Scorpion calls that an "aero skirt" or something like that.

Title: Re: ? on helmet differences
Post by Rocco on 06/06/09 at 11:02:04


4E7A6D6D5B78617A617C080 wrote:
Rocco,where did you get the lights? and were they hard to put on? I always wanted Blue,just like it looks in the picture!

(although I realize yours are really purple)


not @ all, the hardest part is making sure none of the wires are touching anything hot. we didn't take the tank off, just wired around it.

they sell a little box(like 11 bucks) that u plug all the lights into that and only the box goes to the battery as opposed 2 all of the lights going to the battery.

but they're peel and stick, and they do have blue BUT i think the cops have dibs on blue and red. red is my favorite color but i didn't want any problems.

i totally recommend them. they're arent super super bright, but there's a big difference from the side now(which is what i wanted!!)

Title: Re: ? on helmet differences
Post by Rocco on 06/06/09 at 11:02:33

oh and i got them @ cycle gear, lol i'm add sometimes !

Title: Re: ? on helmet differences
Post by John_D on 06/06/09 at 15:24:16


6C515D5D513E0 wrote:
[quote author=4E7A6D6D5B78617A617C080 link=1243923665/15#29 date=1244278506]Rocco,where did you get the lights? and were they hard to put on? I always wanted Blue,just like it looks in the picture!

(although I realize yours are really purple)


not @ all, the hardest part is making sure none of the wires are touching anything hot. we didn't take the tank off, just wired around it.

they sell a little box(like 11 bucks) that u plug all the lights into that and only the box goes to the battery as opposed 2 all of the lights going to the battery.

but they're peel and stick, and they do have blue BUT i think the cops have dibs on blue and red. red is my favorite color but i didn't want any problems.

i totally recommend them. they're arent super super bright, but there's a big difference from the side now(which is what i wanted!!)
[/quote]
I know that was the case in Nebraska.  Way back when, my college roommate got pulled over for having blue accent lights in the cab of his pickup (which looked cool).  Being from Wyoming he didn't know, so they just told him to turn them off and let him go.

Title: Re: ? on helmet differences
Post by Rocco on 06/06/09 at 19:17:38

i think that's the case usually, which sux cuz i love red but oh well.

i figured no law enforcement used purple, and it looks sweeet!

i think neons under cars are played out, but kickass on bikes!!

Title: Re: ? on helmet differences
Post by FreeSpirit on 06/08/09 at 20:58:14

I didnt think about blue and cops....LOL.

Guess I might as well pick another color  :(

Thanks Rocco for all the info though.I had no idea they'd be easy to put on!

Title: Re: ? on helmet differences
Post by Savage_Amusement on 06/09/09 at 16:19:20

You can have what ever color you want. Just don't turn them on while riding. I was thinking of adding a few here and there just for the very same reason, to be seen a little better at night.

Title: Re: ? on helmet differences
Post by Rocco on 06/09/09 at 18:58:03

anytime! i love em! and i do ride with them on. if cops want to give u problems, they will bottom line.

so i may as well risk a warning, and be seen from the sides a little bit better =]

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