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Message started by Joshua on 05/30/09 at 14:53:54

Title: New petcock questions
Post by Joshua on 05/30/09 at 14:53:54

So I just got my raptor petcock in the mail today but it's missing the nipple.  Can I just buy the nipple at Autozone or can I just remove it from the old petcock?  I'm also going to take the carb off and try the white spacer mod but only want to try half.  What were the sizes of the washers, I think I read #2 but is that all the info I need for them?    I know the mod is for backfiring while riding but will it also cure a backfire at shutdown?  The backfires while riding don't bother me but the one on shutdown is embarassing.
Thanks
Joshua

Title: Re: New petcock questions
Post by Yonuh Adisi on 05/30/09 at 15:43:48

Were did you get it from in the first place?

Title: Re: New petcock questions
Post by John_D on 05/30/09 at 17:49:50


45485D4E5C5B56182F0 wrote:
So I just got my raptor petcock in the mail today but it's missing the nipple.  Can I just buy the nipple at Autozone or can I just remove it from the old petcock?  I'm also going to take the carb off and try the white spacer mod but only want to try half.  What were the sizes of the washers, I think I read #2 but is that all the info I need for them?    I know the mod is for backfiring while riding but will it also cure a backfire at shutdown?  The backfires while riding don't bother me but the one on shutdown is embarassing.
Thanks
Joshua

I just got done with the very same mod less than an hour ago! :D  I didn't actually take the carb off, but must admit it would make it easier to access.  Although without a second set of hands, it does work better to have it in the bike when you're breaking the cover screws loose for the first time.  I had to use the old fashioned impact driver:  Whack the screwdriver with a hammer, while applying pressure to unscrew.  Otherwise they probably woulda just stripped the heads out. :(
I used #3 washers, and they fit perfectly.  I don't know if #2 would be big enough to fit over the top of the needle rod, and I've read on here that #4's have to be filed down on the o.d. to fit into the opening.

Just my 2 cents, take it for what it's worth, and good luck wrenching! :D

Edit: I used 3 washers, about 1/2 the white spacer, but as my exhaust is tore apart, I haven't had a chance to see how it worked.

Title: Re: New petcock questions
Post by Joshua on 05/30/09 at 20:14:28

I got the petcock on ebay.

Title: Re: New petcock questions
Post by Yonuh Adisi on 05/30/09 at 21:26:52


3934213220272A64530 wrote:
I got the petcock on ebay.


Seller wasn't flightsimshop or kwikbay was it?

Title: Re: New petcock questions
Post by Joshua on 05/30/09 at 22:03:13

No it was from f4istuntin.  Does that mean I'm out of luck about the nipple?

Title: Re: New petcock questions
Post by verslagen1 on 05/30/09 at 22:29:28

unless it was denoted as missing in the listing, I think you have a case of him selling a defective part.

reread the listing very carefully to see if you missed it or it was in fine print.

send an email to him and complain.  try to resolve the issue between you two.

do not give him feedback untill you're satisfied.

If not give a neg feedback, sometimes that will wake them up.

Title: Re: New petcock questions
Post by BurnPgh on 05/30/09 at 22:40:52

I havent found a #4 washer in my area that will work although some do. Odd, isnt it, that with a standardized sizing some will and some wont work depedning on manufacturer( i geuss)? Ive got a couple dollars worth of tiny little washers i have absolutely no use for now. Get 4 #3s and 4 #4s. If neither a 3 or 4 will work just ask lancer. The washers that come with his jet set are perfect but alas, i lost mine while rejetting in my frineds driveway at a party. Likely someone just saw the small baggy of jets and washers and assumed in the darkness that the contents were green. Id rather their supposed assumption to have been right. Either way Im out $20 and in this case Im still running rich  >:(

Title: Re: New petcock questions
Post by Digger on 07/01/09 at 21:29:03


777A6F7C6E69642A1D0 wrote:
So I just got my raptor petcock in the mail today but it's missing the nipple.  Can I just buy the nipple at Autozone or can I just remove it from the old petcock?  I'm also going to take the carb off and try the white spacer mod but only want to try half.  What were the sizes of the washers, I think I read #2 but is that all the info I need for them?    I know the mod is for backfiring while riding but will it also cure a backfire at shutdown?  The backfires while riding don't bother me but the one on shutdown is embarassing.
Thanks
Joshua


Josh,

I'll bet you've got the wrong part number.

What you need is Yamaha P/N: 5LP-24500-01-00

I ordered one from a local dealer over the phone.  They messed up the part number and when I went to pick it up, I was dismayed to find it did not have a lever (nipple) on it.  It just had a square stud sticking out that you could turn using a 7mm open-end wrench.

They had given me a petcock with Yamaha P/N: 5KM-24500-01-00 (emphasis added by me).

I wonder if this is the petcock they sent you?  As you can see, the part numbers are very similar.

I hope you got it cleared up!

Title: Re: New petcock questions
Post by serowbot on 07/01/09 at 22:30:49

Wow!...  This is the most confused bunch of posts....
Digger has it....

This is the Raptor part no.  5LP-24500-01-00
2003 Yamaha Raptor 660 YFM660R
http://www.ronayers.com/browseparts.cfm?SearchString=5LP-24500-01-00&adv=5&kw=fiche.ronayers.com

#4 teflon washer from Ace hardware is exactly 2/3 thickness of the stock spacer and will fit perfect.  It comes in white or black.  It is just what you want.  One and only one.  It will measure .066",... stock is .1"...

Nipple?... What nipple?... The Raptor petcock is a direct bolt on replacement.... The only thing that you have to do is block off the vacuum port on the carb.

Hope this clears something up, 'cause I'm not sure what you guys are talking about,... but I've installed three of these.... on three different Savages...
Sorry if you were steared  wrong before,... but this is tried and tested....

Title: Re: New petcock questions
Post by PerrydaSavage on 07/02/09 at 03:12:35

Though my LS is an '05 and I am not having any trouble with the stock OEM petc0ck, I am tempted to order one of the Raptor c0cks from local Yami Dealership and try it out ...
Thanks for posting part #!

Title: Re: New petcock questions
Post by seviersavage on 07/02/09 at 03:22:59

Serowbot,
Thats what I was thinkin, What nipple?
Seviersavage

Title: Re: New petcock questions
Post by David M Smith on 07/02/09 at 12:38:58

 I just ordered the Raptor for myself. However I'm concerned with using a screw to block the vac tube on the carb. I really don't want to damage it just in case . .  But I also understand a rubber plug wouldn't be as tight and could deteriorate. Anyone have any other ideas?
 Although I suppose nothing goes INTO the vac port on the carb since the tube fits around the outside?

Title: Re: New petcock questions
Post by serowbot on 07/02/09 at 14:28:55

I have a Folger can full of screws,... If you hunt around for just the right size, it will thread in snug and not cause any damage to the outside...
Other than that, a piece of fuel line with a golf tee stuck in the end will work, and add some funky to the look...
:-?

Title: Re: New petcock questions
Post by Savage_Amusement on 07/02/09 at 18:11:09

They make plugs that are meant for vac and gas lines. They are SUPER tight yet don't stretch and crack that much at all. Then if your worried about air leak you can glue it on.

Title: Re: New petcock questions
Post by T Mack 1 on 07/03/09 at 08:46:08


1A362B373C2B2A2D362B3C6A696969590 wrote:
They make plugs that are meant for vac and gas lines. They are SUPER tight yet don't stretch and crack that much at all. Then if your worried about air leak you can glue it on.


Auto-Zone carries all type of these caps.  Should be easy to get.   I used one from parts bin  (yes... one of those shelves with jars and jars of parts).  I siliconed it on just to be sure it was sealed.

Title: Re: New petcock questions
Post by T Mack 1 on 07/03/09 at 08:53:50


0D7414383A3268590 wrote:
[quote author=1A362B373C2B2A2D362B3C6A696969590 link=1243720434/0#14 date=1246583469]They make plugs that are meant for vac and gas lines. They are SUPER tight yet don't stretch and crack that much at all. Then if your worried about air leak you can glue it on.


Auto-Zone carries all type of these caps.  Should be easy to get.   I used one from parts bin  (yes... one of those shelves with jars and jars of parts).  I siliconed it on just to be sure it was sealed. [/quote]

Next,  some people get long life out of their petcocks, some do not.  I believe that there is a possiblity that the diaphram may go bad if allowed to dry out.    Rubber materials that can handle gasoline have a tendency to stiffen up when they dry.  I bought my bike as a rolling frame with engine in peices.  It was apart for 10 months and the tank was bone dry.  My petcock started to act up so I bought a used one from Verslagen, 24 cents for a nylon screw to convert.... a scrap of aluminum plate to replace the back and an hour of work.

Moral .... keep riding, don't stop...  :)

Title: Re: New petcock questions
Post by serowbot on 07/03/09 at 08:58:02


4E627F63687F7E79627F683E3D3D3D0D0 wrote:
They make plugs that are meant for vac and gas lines. They are SUPER tight yet don't stretch and crack that much at all. Then if your worried about air leak you can glue it on.

In Tucson,.. they're good for about 3 months....  
but it's a dry heat..... :-?

Title: Re: New petcock questions
Post by Digger on 07/07/09 at 21:39:44


5D4B5C41594C415A2E0 wrote:
Wow!...  This is the most confused bunch of posts....
Digger has it....

This is the Raptor part no.  5LP-24500-01-00
2003 Yamaha Raptor 660 YFM660R
http://www.ronayers.com/browseparts.cfm?SearchString=5LP-24500-01-00&adv=5&kw=fiche.ronayers.com........Nipple?... What nipple?... The Raptor petcock is a direct bolt on replacement.... The only thing that you have to do is block off the vacuum port on the carb.....



383B2E25282E393C222727222A26384B0 wrote:
Serowbot,
Thats what I was thinkin, What nipple?
Seviersavage


Gentlemen,

Actually, what I think Joshua was referring to when he was talking about the "nipple" was the lever on the petcock.

When I ordered the Raptor petcock, they gave me a Grizzly petcock instead (geez, the 4-wheelers get all the cool names!).  The Grizzly petcock did not have a lever on it.  I returned it and got the correct Raptor petcock, with the lever.

Perhaps Joshua had the same problem I did.   ;)  

Title: Re: New petcock questions
Post by Digger on 07/07/09 at 21:42:28


3D342A6C696C590 wrote:
 I just ordered the Raptor for myself. However I'm concerned with using a screw to block the vac tube on the carb. I really don't want to damage it just in case . .  But I also understand a rubber plug wouldn't be as tight and could deteriorate. Anyone have any other ideas?
 Although I suppose nothing goes INTO the vac port on the carb since the tube fits around the outside?


David,

Here is another way to cheaply plug the carb's vacuum port:


http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee201/Digger109/CarbVacuumPortPlugE.jpg


I just snipped off a section of the OEM vacuum line, squeezed some silicone sealant into it, folded it over and secured it with two small zip-ties.

IHTH!

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