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Message started by SAVAGESOLDIER on 05/29/09 at 18:57:32

Title: rectifier
Post by SAVAGESOLDIER on 05/29/09 at 18:57:32

does it matter if its fins up or fins down i bobbed my 96 and i just hid the darn thing under the seat but i wanna make sure its not gonna hurt it i put it fins down under the seat is that ok?

Title: Re: rectifier
Post by Yonuh Adisi on 05/29/09 at 18:59:42

I would think that as long as you can get airflow around the fins it should be okay, but others will know more about it than I do.

Title: Re: rectifier
Post by verslagen1 on 05/29/09 at 20:55:20

There are a number of places to put it.
the back side of the battery box, or any side for that matter.

Title: Re: rectifier
Post by kevinphan on 05/30/09 at 00:34:21

I routed it down to the bottom of the frame where there is 4 holes. I'll try to snap some pics tomorrow, you need to splice and lengthen 2 wires.

Title: Re: rectifier
Post by SAVAGESOLDIER on 05/30/09 at 05:28:19

i stuck it under the seat i kinda stuffed it in there is that ok?

Title: Re: rectifier
Post by Oldfeller on 05/30/09 at 05:50:16

You need cooling air flow unless you can arrange a good heat sink condition to some air cooled sheet metal.  

The rectifier/regulator operates with a bridge to turn the full flow of AC from the alternator into full wave DC.  Then the regulator part of the circuity checks the voltage level of the system (which is a combo of total current load from lights, ect AND THE BATTERY'S CURRENT CHARGE LEVEL) and it regulates the system by shunting over voltage/amperage into a large resistor which is attached to the cooling fins.

A permanent magnet alternator/rectifier/regulator system works backwards to what you would think heat-wise.  A fully charged battery with low light loads wastes away more juice to the resistor causing the fins to run hotter.   An uncharged battery runs cooler fins because juice is going to recharge the battery and is not being wasted away by throwing it at the resistor.

When you a cruising the highway after 30 mins of getting the battery totally up to snuff then your R/R fins are as hot as they get as just about all the juice is getting frittered away and you are a max RPM making the most possible juice off the alternator.

Put the thing where it can get some air or heat sink it to some sheet metal, please.  The existing position uses the rear fender as a heat sink, so if you can duplicate that under the seat that might be OK, but otherwise you need some air flow to get rid of the heat.

Title: Re: rectifier
Post by kevinphan on 05/31/09 at 00:39:13

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l113/kevin_phan/D70s/D70/Rectifier.jpg

Bad picture but it's a good spot to relocate it.

Title: Re: rectifier
Post by verslagen1 on 05/31/09 at 07:37:07

And I thought you were doing those beautiful narrow depth of field shots on purpose.  And this is a lovely shot too but very ugly for the purpose.
You got to narrow down your aperchure and widen you depth of field.
go to it boy!

Title: Re: rectifier
Post by odvelasc on 05/31/09 at 17:10:28


756671706F6264666D32030 wrote:
And I thought you were doing those beautiful narrow depth of field shots on purpose.  And this is a lovely shot too but very ugly for the purpose.
You got to narrow down your aperchure and widen you depth of field.
go to it boy!


Doesn't narrowing down aperture create more depth?Widening the aperture (smaller fstop) would reduce depth but widen the field. Smaller aperture=more narrow hole where light enters thus a more narrow image, but more depth? I could be wrong though. Oh! I would really like to see where in the bleepers you put that thing. Maybe a shot of the surrounding parts.

Title: Re: rectifier
Post by DrunkenDwarf on 05/31/09 at 17:32:15

It looks like he put it where the California emissions crap goes. That flat spot on the muffler mount.

-D. Dwarf

Title: Re: rectifier
Post by John_D on 05/31/09 at 19:25:35


525C4F505749515857390 wrote:
I routed it down to the bottom of the frame where there is 4 holes. I'll try to snap some pics tomorrow, you need to splice and lengthen 2 wires.

I used the Cali. emissions brackets to mount my BHM (big honkin' magnet), for helping trigger stoplights.  Doesn't work all the time, but definitely helps.  You can see the rear two ears of the mount in the pic.
http://s626.photobucket.com/albums/tt347/redneck72102/Bike%20Pics/Bike%20Mods/th_IM000240.jpg

Title: Re: rectifier
Post by kevinphan on 05/31/09 at 21:07:01


6E6577646D607262010 wrote:
[quote author=756671706F6264666D32030 link=1243648653/0#7 date=1243780627]And I thought you were doing those beautiful narrow depth of field shots on purpose.  And this is a lovely shot too but very ugly for the purpose.
You got to narrow down your aperchure and widen you depth of field.
go to it boy!


Doesn't narrowing down aperture create more depth?Widening the aperture (smaller fstop) would reduce depth but widen the field. Smaller aperture=more narrow hole where light enters thus a more narrow image, but more depth? I could be wrong though. Oh! I would really like to see where in the bleepers you put that thing. Maybe a shot of the surrounding parts.[/quote]

Opening your aperture will let more light in and there will be less in focus, where as closing your aperture it will be darker and more would be in focus.

I shot wide open at f/3.5 1/15 200ISO? I'll try to get a better shot but it's where he mounted the magnet.

Title: Re: rectifier
Post by verslagen1 on 05/31/09 at 21:56:25


0907140B0C120A030C620 wrote:
[quote author=6E6577646D607262010 link=1243648653/0#8 date=1243815028]

Doesn't narrowing down aperture create more depth?Widening the aperture (smaller fstop) would reduce depth but widen the field. Smaller aperture=more narrow hole where light enters thus a more narrow image, but more depth? I could be wrong though. Oh! I would really like to see where in the bleepers you put that thing. Maybe a shot of the surrounding parts.


Opening your aperture will let more light in and there will be less in focus, where as closing your aperture it will be darker and more would be in focus.

I shot wide open at f/3.5 1/15 200ISO? I'll try to get a better shot but it's where he mounted the magnet.[/quote]
I took photography before it went digital and before point and shoot cameras were in everybodies pocket.
The old SLR lenses had a scale on them that told you what the depth of field would be.  An f3.5 was a big hole in the paper and a narrow depth of field.  An f11 was a tiny little pin prick and almost infinite depth of field.

Title: Re: rectifier
Post by kevinphan on 05/31/09 at 22:02:43


2E3D2A2B34393F3D3669580 wrote:
[quote author=0907140B0C120A030C620 link=1243648653/0#11 date=1243829221][quote author=6E6577646D607262010 link=1243648653/0#8 date=1243815028]

Doesn't narrowing down aperture create more depth?Widening the aperture (smaller fstop) would reduce depth but widen the field. Smaller aperture=more narrow hole where light enters thus a more narrow image, but more depth? I could be wrong though. Oh! I would really like to see where in the bleepers you put that thing. Maybe a shot of the surrounding parts.


Opening your aperture will let more light in and there will be less in focus, where as closing your aperture it will be darker and more would be in focus.

I shot wide open at f/3.5 1/15 200ISO? I'll try to get a better shot but it's where he mounted the magnet.[/quote]
I took photography before it went digital and before point and shoot cameras were in everybodies pocket.
The old SLR lenses had a scale on them that told you what the depth of field would be.  An f3.5 was a big hole in the paper and a narrow depth of field.  An f11 was a tiny little pin prick and almost infinite depth of field.[/quote]

Yes, 1.8 would give you very shallow DOF. F/11 is usually the sharpest focal point of many lenses.

Title: Re: rectifier
Post by odvelasc on 06/01/09 at 04:10:16


26283B24233D252C234D0 wrote:
[quote author=2E3D2A2B34393F3D3669580 link=1243648653/0#12 date=1243832185][quote author=0907140B0C120A030C620 link=1243648653/0#11 date=1243829221][quote author=6E6577646D607262010 link=1243648653/0#8 date=1243815028]

Doesn't narrowing down aperture create more depth?Widening the aperture (smaller fstop) would reduce depth but widen the field. Smaller aperture=more narrow hole where light enters thus a more narrow image, but more depth? I could be wrong though. Oh! I would really like to see where in the bleepers you put that thing. Maybe a shot of the surrounding parts.


Opening your aperture will let more light in and there will be less in focus, where as closing your aperture it will be darker and more would be in focus.

I shot wide open at f/3.5 1/15 200ISO? I'll try to get a better shot but it's where he mounted the magnet.[/quote]
I took photography before it went digital and before point and shoot cameras were in everybodies pocket.
The old SLR lenses had a scale on them that told you what the depth of field would be.  An f3.5 was a big hole in the paper and a narrow depth of field.  An f11 was a tiny little pin prick and almost infinite depth of field.[/quote]

Yes, 1.8 would give you very shallow DOF. F/11 is usually the sharpest focal point of many lenses.[/quote]

so you will be taking the next pic with a higher number ftstop right? I have an old SLR (1965 Argus Cosina). I played around with it a few times a number of years go. Much more beautiful pictures with that than any digital camera I have a used and I have an 8 MP 8xoptical zoom sony. I am thinking if getting back into that camera on my Savage day trips this summer. Sorry for the hijack, thanks for the info guys.  8-)

Title: Re: rectifier
Post by kevinphan on 06/02/09 at 22:36:33

There is really not enough light in that area to shoot at a higher fstop so i resorted to my iPhone  ;D

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l113/kevin_phan/D70s/D70/rectifier2.jpg

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l113/kevin_phan/D70s/D70/rectifier-1.jpg

Should give yah a good idea!

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