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Title: Instability Post by verslagen1 on 05/26/09 at 20:12:44 So I rode the '8802 to work today. The bike feels fine except the rear end doesn't want to follow the front. Haven't got the fork brace on yet cause I'm polishing it up. checked the front bearings felt good checked the rear same :o slow turns feel wierd, turn alittle and she wants to turn alot. slight turns feel wierd too, maybe like a damper would if I had one. BTW, I swapped the brake line for a stainless steel braided line and they feel great. With the old line the brakes were really spongey. Oh and I checked alignment, walked it down a straight line, it's aligned. |
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Title: Re: Instability Post by Skid Mark on 05/26/09 at 20:37:02 Just a guess. Underinflated tire? |
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Title: Re: Instability Post by verslagen1 on 05/26/09 at 20:54:21 13 in front 18 in rear I'll give that a try. |
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Title: Re: Instability Post by Charon on 05/26/09 at 20:57:10 Sounds like my '07 S40. At low speeds it wants to "fall into" a turn. My old Suzuki Tempter had a little of that characteristic, too. Once the turn is initiated it requires pressure on the bars to keep the turn from increasing. When the speed increases to maybe 15 - 20 mph the quirk seems to disappear. My S40 has the short drag bars (stock) and I think their shortness makes the "fall in" seem more exaggerated, because they give less leverage. |
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Title: Re: Instability Post by marshall13 on 05/26/09 at 21:14:28 check your spokes? crab walking can be rims out of true.... |
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Title: Re: Instability Post by verslagen1 on 05/26/09 at 22:15:36 Aired up the tires and put the fork brace on, we'll see how that works. Don't think it the rims out of true, they look ok. |
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Title: Re: Instability Post by rigidchop on 05/27/09 at 05:54:45 swingarm bushings? |
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Title: Re: Instability Post by verslagen1 on 05/27/09 at 07:20:54 Well it was either the fork brace or the tire pressure. I don't know how you guys w/o 'em do it. Felt like the rear was trying to pass. |
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Title: Re: Instability Post by Rocco on 05/27/09 at 08:17:45 i thought mine was feeling a little extra "hoppy" i think it was all the heavy rain on my belt(mine is outside under a cover) but after a minute of so she straightened back out, i'll check tire pressure as well. i don't have enough riding time to notice things like this, but i do know i'm making progress because cruising @ 60 feels normal whereas around the block used 2 be a challenge lol |
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Title: Re: Instability Post by Skid Mark on 05/27/09 at 09:32:58 Good to hear the fix was nice & simple!!! I like those. Rocco: Good to hear your confidence is growing. Just be careful. At 60 mph $**t happens pretty qiuck!!! A couple of good hiway trips will do you good. It did for me!!! ;D |
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Title: Re: Instability Post by Rocco on 05/27/09 at 11:03:26 this is true! i feel comfortable enough on the bike so now i'm not thinkin "clutch....throttle....foot....how fast am i going?" lol now i just go and watch everyone and make sure they stay on their side of the line(easier said then done in south fla haha) a friend of mine who has a custom and a vulcan, mind u his custom is 1900cc...totally rodded out, his clutch was a pain to pull in...he asked if i wanted 2 ride it, i declined of course! but he said that u should be comfortable with how to operate the bike, but never so comfortable that you're not a little cauteous of what damage u can do to yourself. he kind of explained it as being a little scared and a little smart. i think that's a good philosophy! i then told him "remember you're naked and invisible" i saw that as someone's signature on here, and he laughed and said that works just as well!! we have an affiliated school in lake mary fl, i think it's about half an hour south of orlando. i've been contemplating taking the turnpike up there for a weekend of kenpo and 2 wheels.....i can't think of a better way 2 spend time!! below is a picture of our crest, does anyone else here study a type of martial art? if u agree and think our crest is cool looking i'd be more then happy 2 explain each piece on there, my instructor designed every little detail to mean something! and yes i'm way 2 passionate about my art lol but being obsessive is good right? i think riding is becoming a very close second!! http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/62/l_343d2d86e0d60202fe4949c3b66578a3.jpg |
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Title: Re: Instability Post by Duane on 05/27/09 at 11:29:11 I'm a student of egg drop soup, yummy. |
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Title: Re: Instability Post by Rocco on 05/27/09 at 11:30:40 never heard of that style......is it similar to "run foo" kinda like kung fu, except you just haul a$$ instead of fighting LOL |
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Title: Re: Instability Post by BurnPgh on 05/27/09 at 11:47:57 I took Ishinru for 6 years when i was younger. Got out of it around 14. |
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Title: Re: Instability Post by Rocco on 05/27/09 at 11:58:43 sweeet! that's a "style" i believe, hard as in linear soft as in circular! i bet you remember more then you think! we have people come in all the time and say "i haven't done anything for 10 years" then 15 minutes later they can stumble through a form or technique and they don't know how lol it's amazing when u think about it! |
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Title: Re: Instability Post by Duane on 05/27/09 at 12:37:25 Like riding a bike aye? |
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Title: Re: Instability Post by marshall13 on 05/27/09 at 13:00:10 605D51515D320 wrote:
muscle memory... 2000 clean reps of any movement, and your brain lists it as a "canned cycle".... an auto-pilot manuever, if you will... that's why you practice stuff like panic stops, emergency zig-zags, martial arts forms, fast draw, etc.... if the codgers that stumble through the remembered moves were in the same physical condition they were when last they practiced, the forms would probably be much more precisely executed.... |
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Title: Re: Instability Post by JohnBoy on 05/27/09 at 14:31:04 It is almost unbelievable how much difference just one or two pounds of air will make. If you have the time I would suggest a test. Put the correct pressure in your tires and ride some residential streets at night. At night your body is much more attuned to “feel” than during daylight. Then drop the air by five pounds and ride the same roads. Then drop the air another five and do it again. I can pretty much guarantee that you will come to believe that your suspension is failing. On a light bike like this, just surface temps alone will make a diference in your ride. Always suspect your tires first...your usually right! |
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Title: Re: Instability Post by smokin_blue on 05/27/09 at 16:07:44 697A6D6C737E787A712E1F0 wrote:
pretty much guarantee the air pressure had more to do with it than a fork brace. Wiggly handling is usually a dead give away for low pressure. |
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Title: Re: Instability Post by verslagen1 on 05/27/09 at 16:27:05 Ride home was way better than yesterday, but still feel unable to ride a line. I suspect it's due to the stiff steering preventing me from making micro adjustments. |
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Title: Re: Instability Post by Digger on 06/29/09 at 21:33:59 2B382F2E313C3A38336C5D0 wrote:
Ver, Your steering head bearing races may be notched. |
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Title: Re: Instability Post by sakara on 06/30/09 at 12:49:24 4F5C4B4A55585E5C5708390 wrote:
darn! |
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