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Message started by False Illusion on 05/15/09 at 06:41:24

Title: Tool Kit Essentials
Post by False Illusion on 05/15/09 at 06:41:24

Hey Everyone...

I checked the "Table of Contents" in the Tech. section to find an answer to this question (as it seems very basic), but to no avail.

With that being said...

What tools should I stow on the bike if I'm going to hit the road for any kind of lengthy journey?

I plan on keeping my stock tool kit for nostalgic purposes only. ;)

Thanks, everyone, ride safe and have a GREAT weekend!

Title: Re: Tool Kit Essentials
Post by Duane on 05/15/09 at 07:04:53

With 100 mile range on a tank I just take the cell phone. But my Savage is just my short distance scooter. If I going interstate I feel safer in a car.

Title: Re: Tool Kit Essentials
Post by Balderdash on 05/15/09 at 07:11:39

I think I would want all the tools I need to reach the spark plug and remove it.  

So (if you still have the chrome covers on the engine top), that would mean the wrench to take off the seat and the gas tank, the original equipment tool for taking out the spark plug is a good keeper because it also fits the brake bolts etc., and I replaced all my engine bolts with stainless steel allen wrench bolts (metric size 5) so I would put one size 5 allen wrench in the tool kit as well.  And air gauge and pliers would round it out well I think...  Am I forgetting anything?


EDIT: I forgot to mention that I wear a leatherman tool on my belt, it carries all the screwdriver heads I would need and that would work as as a secondary pliers whenever both ends of a bolt needs to be held to remove something...

Title: Re: Tool Kit Essentials
Post by Savage_Amusement on 05/15/09 at 07:30:09

Yeah I agree, changing out everything you can to be a 4mm or 5mm head Allen will greatly reduce what you will need to carry. I have done this and don't regret it what so ever. Then you can get cool caps to put over them and keep the stuff out or just make them look nice.

Title: Re: Tool Kit Essentials
Post by diamond jim on 05/15/09 at 08:41:01

When you do the head bolt torque maintenance, put each tool you use into some sort of container and that will be what you need for just about any problem on the side of the road.  That would have your 8mm, 10mm, 12mm, 14mm and 17mm tools (sockets and wrenches) as well as other necessary tools covered. Add some allen wrenches, needle nose pliers, flat head screwdriver, zip ties, electrical tape and whatever else and you've got about everything you need for most jobs except maybe removing the fork tubes or rear tire. Add a 19mm wrench in there for removing/replacing your clutch cable.

Title: Re: Tool Kit Essentials
Post by Skid Mark on 05/15/09 at 08:44:09

Duct Tape for things that shouldn't move. WD40 for things that should move. Anyhing else is optional :D

Title: Re: Tool Kit Essentials
Post by marshall13 on 05/15/09 at 09:03:42


7E737B7775747E7073771A0 wrote:
When you do the head bolt torque maintenance, put each tool you use into some sort of container and that will be what you need for just about any problem on the side of the road.  That would have your 8mm, 10mm, 12mm, 14mm and 17mm tools (sockets and wrenches) as well as other necessary tools covered. Add some allen wrenches, needle nose pliers, flat head screwdriver, zip ties, electrical tape and whatever else and you've got about everything you need for most jobs except maybe removing the fork tubes or rear tire. Add a 19mm wrench in there for removing/replacing your clutch cable.

forgot the 2 razor blades(wrapped), wire cutters, patch kit, 2 tire spoons...a small tube of form-a gasket is nice too(not many suzi dealers stocking gaskets where you'll break down ill bet)... one of those pocket 12v test lights is a good idea too....belt staple(harley shop, for emergency roadside belt repair) or masterlink, and a mini-maglite because everybody knows you only break down right before it becomes too dark to see...lol  2 20 ft lengths of 10 guage wire with gator clips on the end would make a great set of jumper cables too...

Title: Re: Tool Kit Essentials
Post by verslagen1 on 05/15/09 at 09:07:14

I've been trying to decide... drag the floor jack or strap it to the sissy bar?

Title: Re: Tool Kit Essentials
Post by Rocco on 05/15/09 at 09:12:00

lol u could pull a radio flyer full of whatever u need !!

i'm shopping for a cheap tool bag, for the back i think, and i will def be carrying fuses !!

Title: Re: Tool Kit Essentials
Post by marshall13 on 05/15/09 at 09:20:09


243720213E3335373C63520 wrote:
I've been trying to decide... drag the floor jack or strap it to the sissy bar?

tow bar... lol

Title: Re: Tool Kit Essentials
Post by SavageDanny on 05/15/09 at 09:29:56


4665686061766065776C040 wrote:
I think I would want all the tools I need to reach the spark plug and remove it.


I agree with that. I am not sure I would want to do much more than that on the side of the road or in a parking lot.

I would definitely take a cell phone.

Title: Re: Tool Kit Essentials
Post by diamond jim on 05/15/09 at 09:31:06

And a portable bench vise.  

Title: Re: Tool Kit Essentials
Post by marshall13 on 05/15/09 at 09:45:31

the definative answer seems to be "everything you need, but not too much".... dont forget the baling wire... ive driven cars practically made from the stuff....lol

Title: Re: Tool Kit Essentials
Post by Duane on 05/15/09 at 13:14:06

cell phone  :o and a wife with my truck keys.  ;D

Title: Re: Tool Kit Essentials
Post by PTRider on 05/15/09 at 19:12:36


0D3C28272C490 wrote:
cell phone  :o and a wife with my truck keys.  ;D

...and a ramp and a come-along to drag it up the ramp and into the bed, along with tie-downs.


*come-along, puller, winch, chain hoist...whatever.

Title: Re: Tool Kit Essentials
Post by Charon on 05/15/09 at 19:24:45

Quite frankly, I expect my motorcycles to be as reliable as my cars. The only roadside breakdown I expect is a flat tire, and I carry a credit card, cell phone, and roadside assistance insurance for that. Since I quit driving two-stroke motorcycles, I have never had a spark plug failure. Since breaker points went out of fashion, I have never had an ignition failure. Since my 1959 Vespa motorscooter I have never had a control cable break. I concede to having to adjust the chain on my wife's Twinstar, but its onboard toolkit was adequate for that. That adjustment would not have been necessary, had I relied on 90-weight gear oil for chain lube instead of trusting the advertising on the can of PJ-1.

Title: Re: Tool Kit Essentials
Post by marshall13 on 05/15/09 at 19:28:55


725950435E5F310 wrote:
Quite frankly, I expect my motorcycles to be as reliable as my cars. The only roadside breakdown I expect is a flat tire, and I carry a credit card, cell phone, and roadside assistance insurance for that. Since I quit driving two-stroke motorcycles, I have never had a spark plug failure. Since breaker points went out of fashion, I have never had an ignition failure. Since my 1959 Vespa motorscooter I have never had a control cable break. I concede to having to adjust the chain on my wife's Twinstar, but its onboard toolkit was adequate for that. That adjustment would not have been necessary, had I relied on 90-weight gear oil for chain lube instead of trusting the advertising on the can of PJ-1.

i have the same expectations, and my gear answer should lead you to suspect the existance of 400 lbs or so of tools in my truck bed...lol  i do carry a floorjack... rofl

Title: Re: Tool Kit Essentials
Post by Jay on 05/15/09 at 23:06:24

Here are a couple of previous postings on long trips. They were in RSD.
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1237731677/0
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1240271775/1#1
The only thing I would add would be to have a spare set of all your keys with you, in oyur jacket pocket. That way if you lose your keys, your trip ain't over. Oh, and zip ties. Lots and lots of zip ties. Have a great trip and take lots of pics. With this recession, the only traveling I'm doing is vicariously.

Title: Re: Tool Kit Essentials
Post by Charon on 05/16/09 at 08:30:21

The thing is, you can NEVER carry enough tools or spares to cover any possible problem. Even if you could carry a complete spare vehicle, you couldn't guarantee it wouldn't fail just like the first one did. Even if you could carry enough tools, including the heavy-duty press to replace bearings, you couldn't guarantee having the part you would need - unless you had enough parts to manufacture the spare identical vehicle. About all you can do is cover the most likely failure. If you keep up on your maintenance, few failures are very likely. I, for one, figure when the failure happens - most likely a flat tire - to use the cell phone and roadside assistance service for the repair.

Title: Re: Tool Kit Essentials
Post by bill67 on 05/16/09 at 08:40:41

  Our stand tool kit will fix any problem thats fix able on the road .Any other problem you probability can't fix on the road.Only thing I every carried was a can of flat fix,But never had to use it

Title: Re: Tool Kit Essentials
Post by aliassmith on 05/16/09 at 10:23:29

A full checkbook.

Aliassmith

Title: Re: Tool Kit Essentials
Post by Jay on 05/16/09 at 20:04:13


595257570D0C3B0 wrote:
  Our stand tool kit will fix any problem thats fix able on the road .Any other problem you probability can't fix on the road.Only thing I every carried was a can of flat fix,But never had to use it


I think that's tha best, common sense, answer to this question. Being paranoid, I still carry duct tape, spare fuse, zip ties, and of course the spare keys; but that's just me.
+1 Bill!

Title: Re: Tool Kit Essentials
Post by verslagen1 on 05/16/09 at 21:59:07

When I got my bike 2 years ago, the po lost the tool kit.
I've since replaced it, noted the cobwebs on it as I inspected the contents.  Put it all back together and tucked it away under the cover.  I hope it's still there.   ;D  With my big crank, I have no need to open the cover.  Although I'm thinking of putting a copy of the registration in there, in case I loose my wallet.

Title: Re: Tool Kit Essentials
Post by LANCER on 05/17/09 at 03:41:51


4A594E4F505D5B59520D3C0 wrote:
I've been trying to decide... drag the floor jack or strap it to the sissy bar?



LOL
  ;D

Title: Re: Tool Kit Essentials
Post by Pabst 2006 on 05/17/09 at 06:06:59

my toolkit consists of 1.) cell phone 2.) bottle of Slime tire sealant 3.) digital tire pressure gauge 4.) phone number for roadside assistance - Progressive makes it ridiculously cheap to add into your moto insurance policy.

IMHO the benefits of keeping up with regular maintenance on this 2-wheeled beast result in not having to experience a roadside "Oh, *#$&%!!!!!" moment.

I would rather not weigh down the front end with a fork bag or take up space in bags in the back with a bunch of tools from my toolbox, if the odds are only thing I should be worried about during my travels are tire punctures and an errant, misguided deer/turkey/raccoon crossing the road.  Knock on wood.

Title: Re: Tool Kit Essentials
Post by marshall13 on 05/17/09 at 11:08:10


656E6B6B3130070 wrote:
  Our stand tool kit will fix any problem thats fix able on the road .Any other problem you probability can't fix on the road.Only thing I every carried was a can of flat fix,But never had to use it

id say add a masterlink if you run a chain, or belt repair staple if you run a belt, and you're 100% correct.... i know, popped chains and belts are very rare, but i have a major allergy to pushing a bike... if i wanted to balance and push, id have a wheelbarrow....

Title: Re: Tool Kit Essentials
Post by Starlifter on 05/18/09 at 07:09:45

I carry A lock & cable in case you have to leave bike along the road for a short time.

Title: Re: Tool Kit Essentials
Post by John_D on 05/18/09 at 22:40:35


2D3E2928373A3C3E356A5B0 wrote:
I've been trying to decide... drag the floor jack or strap it to the sissy bar?

Drag it, that's what they got wheels for, ain't it?

What, you mean they're not rated to 70 mph? :-?

Title: Re: Tool Kit Essentials
Post by Diabla on 11/23/09 at 12:17:29

Nice thread... thanks for all the thoughts.  

I think I'll carry some duct tape and a spare key too. kekeke :p

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