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Title: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by alcoa on 05/13/09 at 17:35:59 Seat yes, now tell me why all the rest of the mods that have been posted here do any real good. If they really helped the bike why not suzuki do it to? ;) |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by bill67 on 05/13/09 at 17:46:27 The ones here who have moded their bikes the most are the ones having all the trouble with them and giving the S40 a bad name. |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by verslagen1 on 05/13/09 at 17:47:20 Alcoa, I think you answered the question yourself. |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by Skid Mark on 05/13/09 at 17:55:47 Because they are fun to do and enhance the riding experience ; ;) |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by John_D on 05/13/09 at 18:06:26 A lot of the mods are for ascetic (sp?) purposes, or comfort for the individual riders, I think. Like the above mentioned seat, or forward controls. The engine and other performance mods? From what I understand, Suzuki basically de-tunes the bike (such as making it run slightly lean) to more easily pass emissions standards with what is basically a 20 year old engine. If you take most automobiles, even the "high performance" ones, hardly any of them are running to peak efficiency from the factory. They have to run a balancing act between performance, and keeping the DEQ people happy. :P That being said, the only engine mod I've done is to pull the brass plug on the carb and rich it up a little. Seemed to help some. Still surges in the midrange, so I believe the white spacer mod fixes that? Still slightly intimidated by the carb. ;D |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by Sandy Koocanusa on 05/13/09 at 18:16:35 404B4E4E1415220 wrote:
Yep. Like Demin, who obviously can't touch a bike without it vanishing, leaving behind only a pile of cash. Or Diamond Jim, who I honestly believe could carve a working motorcycle out of a block of wood with a jack knife. Or Verslagen1, who was an integral part of the invention of an engine-saving modification. Yonuh and his supertanker... The list goes on. Clearly a bunch of morons who are wrecking the coveted prestige of owning the K-Car of motorcycles. |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by Savage Eddie on 05/13/09 at 18:18:27 Why didnt Chevy make my 1980 Z28 with 900 hp right from the factory? why did i spend all this money? You can ask me when you catch me..... :) John nailed it, you ride what you like. you mod to make it comfy, its a hobby......its a addiction! I ride a Savage and it reflects who i am.... |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by prechermike on 05/13/09 at 18:55:30 4C5B5A505B5D55090C0F0E0C3E0 wrote:
John, It has been said before, but the white spacer is a piece of cake. I did get one of those hand held impact drivers to get the four screws off of the top. You can do it, do go ahead. |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by bill67 on 05/13/09 at 19:36:40 The S40 is a sharp looking bike,Some on here have really messed them up. |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by diamond jim on 05/13/09 at 20:25:07 2A29282F2E2D2C23221B0 wrote:
Your question sounds more rhetorical than inquisitive to me especially considering the winking emoticon you added. Assuming it is rhetorical- all those mods posted here that you question whether they really make the bike better are typically explained by the author of the posts as to why the mod makes their bike better. So the info you ask for is there. You may not agree with their explanation and choose to form a differing opinion. That's your choice. But, honestly, I put more value in the words of someone who's actually done the mod than someone who hasn't and simply has an opinion about it, educated or otherwise. Now, if your question was simply inquisitive- read each mod's author's explanation as to why it makes their bike better. They've taken the time to write about it and post pics for a reason. |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by Savage_Amusement on 05/13/09 at 20:27:59 Because one size really doesn't fit all. No matter how hard some try to make it be so. |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by BurnPgh on 05/13/09 at 21:26:01 Because you can. The stock savage/s40 is good as it is from the factory but it also has more potential to be developed into a unique machine than most other bikes (off the floor that is). The factory seating position is okay. Not great. Forward controls. Top speed is good, not great, but those high revs...ugh. On the freeway for a distance? Why not slow them down? Chain conversion. Midrange a bit jumpy? Not a huge deal. But an easy fix. White spacer mod. The backfire is just freaking annoying after a while. Idle mix plug removal. Its an easy bike to strip down or build up as one sees fit. The designers job on almost any vehicle, particularly a low cost vehicle, is to make it appeal to as many people as possible including the people in the government. Its all a game of compromise. But once its off the floor and in your garage you dont have to compromise anymore. |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by CPLgrr-USMC on 05/13/09 at 21:32:08 Nobody wants to have the exact same bike as somebody else. There would be nothing to brag about, nothing to show off, nothing to be proud of except just having a stock looking bike. |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by John_D on 05/14/09 at 00:01:08 2E2C3B3D363B2C3337353B5E0 wrote:
John, It has been said before, but the white spacer is a piece of cake. I did get one of those hand held impact drivers to get the four screws off of the top. You can do it, do go ahead.[/quote] Thanks for the vote of confidence. May give it a whirl next weekend, unless the weather's nice, which of course means I'll be riding. ;D I've seen it said to use #4 washers, sometimes #3. A couple questions: 1. which is correct, or will either work? 2. should they be stainless, or is corrosion not really a problem? I'll probably replace the top screws with stainless hex screws while it's apart, if the True Value has the right size. They have a great selection, so crossing my fingers. Oh, if I go with stainless screws, do they need antiseize, or is there no galling? Ok, enough questions, back to you regularly scheduled thread! :D |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by Jay on 05/14/09 at 01:16:47 2A3D3C363D3B336F6A69686A580 wrote:
John, It has been said before, but the white spacer is a piece of cake. I did get one of those hand held impact drivers to get the four screws off of the top. You can do it, do go ahead.[/quote] Thanks for the vote of confidence. May give it a whirl next weekend, unless the weather's nice, which of course means I'll be riding. ;D I've seen it said to use #4 washers, sometimes #3. A couple questions: 1. which is correct, or will either work? 2. should they be stainless, or is corrosion not really a problem? I'll probably replace the top screws with stainless hex screws while it's apart, if the True Value has the right size. They have a great selection, so crossing my fingers. Oh, if I go with stainless screws, do they need antiseize, or is there no galling? Ok, enough questions, back to you regularly scheduled thread! :D[/quote] The #4's require a bit of fiddling to fit, if I recall correctly. The #3's were drop in when I did mine. ACE Hardware had what I needed, though I've heard of folks going to hobby shops that sell AC airplanes, helicopters, etc., for the #3 washer. Definately go high quality. As a side note, take careful consideration of your before and after. I returned my carb to stock (except for the brass plug) after a couple of months; because the improvement was not worth the decreased fuel economy. At this point I got advice that I needed to rejet and open up the exhaust. Seemed a bit much for my particular needs and taste. Besides, I'm not much of a wrencher. After I put it back, many of the problems simply went away. Maybe I didn't have it broken in enough (it only had about 1500 miles on it), maybe it just needed to be shown a little love by taking it apart and putting it back together, I don't know. Still, I've got over 10,000 miles on it now, and we've settled in together just fine. Not saying don't do it. It's worth a try. YMMV. I just recommend not doing anything you can't undo, if you so desire. |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by John_D on 05/14/09 at 01:39:11 Thanks, #3's it is. I don't plan on doing anything irreversable (yet!), just trying to settle down the slight surging in the midrange at cruising speeds, and heard this should help. |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by NewThumperGuy on 05/14/09 at 05:56:27 061509223737450 wrote:
As stated here, we all like our custom rides and we like to be comfortable on our rides. I modded like crazy and have no regrets and I plan to continue. Appearance, performance and comfort factors are all seen differently through different eyes. I personally like the satisfaction of working on and completeing these mods on my own with assistance from the great guys here. To each thier own. But dont bash those of us that have the balls and abilities to make our rides suit our needs and stand out from everyone elses!!! |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by Oldfeller on 05/14/09 at 06:23:37 Not all of us have jumped on the "Mod It to the wall" bandwagon. The white spacer mod and drill out the brass cover to the air screw are personally recommended mods to all Savage owner -- the bike is shipped running way lean just to make the EPA happy and the crappy running does not need to be tolerated. The white spacer mod and the air screw just get the bike back more to its original tuning levels, so you could take the stance they aren't really mods at all, just putting it back the way it was supposed to be. =========== however, Immediately yanking the stock exhaust off willy nilly because it is the "thing to do" perhaps requires a little further thinking before doing. I have a Harley exhaust over there in the corner -- I don't care for the noise levels that comes with it and I didn't see any performance advantages for the Harley muffler on our last Dragon run with Harley equipped exhausts over the stock exhaust for me to put up with the excess noise, whapping and blapping. YES, MOST OF OUR MODS ARE SIMPLY BECAUSE WE WANT TO. I tend to like the mods that add service life between oil changes, increase cam chain life, add years to air cleaner service spans and add years and years to the service life of a rear tire and to a set of front brake pads. My mods are more "practical" than visually appealing. Some of them are actually uglier and messier than the stock component (the air filter). But hey, they all still fall under "simply because we want to" rule. Then again, I ride a "wee bagger", not a bobber. Bobbers are pretty, but I like to have the bags for carrying stuff. |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by Hard Corps on 05/14/09 at 07:01:11 697E7F757E78702C292A2B291B0 wrote:
Well, some of the mods may certainly be for ascetic reasons; we Savages are a weird breed. (Ascetic means stripped down, basic, removing pleasure, self-denial, austere, etc. Think medieval monastery!) But probably a lot of the mods are for aesthetic reasons, meaning for the looks. We want our bike to look the way we like. My bike is mostly stock. I bought it because I liked the way Suzuki made it. But motorcyclists tend to be highly individualistic and independent folks. We want our ride to be an expression of ourselves. And some of us like wrenching around in a dimly lit garage with a case of cheap beer and classic rock on the radio. We bob, chop, re-jet, fork-extend, seat-expand, repaint, re-light, retread and whatever else just for the sheer joy of it. (Why did we put a man on the moon? Because we could!) The Savage is a great canvas for mechanical artistic expression. Its engineered asceticism, makes it a perfect candidate for modifications of aestheticism. |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by doc5446 on 05/14/09 at 08:50:25 676465626360616E6F560 wrote:
If you gotta ask, you probably wouldn't understand... |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by matt_savage on 05/14/09 at 09:16:54 I started modding cuz I can't leave well enough alone ahahahaha I bought my 98 w/ 6,500 miles on it 1.5 years ago as a learner bike. Im still learning these 1.5 years later! I put on a new exhaust cuz I wanted a slightly louder pipe. I changed the air cleaner to match the freer flowing exhaust and then the jets in the carb to match intake and exhaust together. I'm putting in a Verslavy and new/improved cam chain to fix the exploding cam tensioner assembly from the factory. I'm planning a perf. cam at some point as well. These performance mods are pretty much what you would call a SLIPPERY SLOPE haha. Had I not fixed my oil plug leak and figured out how easy it is to work on the engine I would not have the cajones to try and pull a cam job off. The rest of my mods (mini apes, shaved seat ala DiamondJim, side mount plate/brake light, forward controls, bobber rear fender, etc) were all aesthetic/comfort mods. I did them for comfort and looks. I didnt want to be riding a cookie cutter bike and most of the mods were relatively cheap and easy with minor hand tools. -Matt |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by Phelonius on 05/14/09 at 09:37:07 33383D3D6766510 wrote:
Bill 67, S'not true for all of us. All the mods I have made benefit the bike and most add to it's reliability or usability. Many of the things I need my machine to do were never intended by Suzuki. These are mostly related to sidecar usage which Suzuki holds to be a sin. The main problems with Suzuki as from the factory are related to their marketing intent. This bike is aimed at the entry grade rider and as such that rider is expected to move up to something larger due to peer pressure. As such the bean counters have dictated less than the best in some areas. The saddle is a glaring example. It fits an average built person about 5 foot 3 to five foot seven very well. Tough luck for anyone not of those dimensions. The handlebars, all of the stock ones I have seen have been aimed at style and not at better control of the bike. This of course includes risers etc. The exhaust crackle and pop is due to over lean situation dictated by our own government and the dual thickness head pipe that allows for no cooling to the inside pipe. Another thing done strictly for style. The belt drive squeeks on most of them and I can only say that after 20 odd years since suzuki has not cured this, they do not care. I much prefer my chain drive for less maintainance, quieter, and I can choose my final drive ratios. The mods that most often cause problems are engine mods to get more power, exhaust mods for a more stylish sound, tire sizes to look more stylish. I bought my S-40 brand new with the intent that it would be extensively modified. It was chosen because of its' low center of gravity and its' basic design of engine with an inherently good torque band. Nothing eals available nedded as few mods for my purpose as the S-40. Phelonius |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by diamond jim on 05/14/09 at 09:45:42 Phelonius, you have done a superb job with your bike and sidecar. It reminds me of a British classic but with Phelonius reliability! They say a pic is worth a thousand words- http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh128/russ_diamond_jim/beforeandafter-1.jpg |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by Phelonius on 05/14/09 at 09:51:17 That's a nice clean style. I like the looks but personally would not go that direction. My body size alone would make that style not comfortable fo me on a ride of any length. But if the shoe fits,----- Phelonius BTW where did you hide the batt tree? |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by bill67 on 05/14/09 at 09:54:16 A picture is worth a thousand words.What looks good to some don't look good to others. |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by doc5446 on 05/14/09 at 10:41:22 I've never been the type to leave well enough alone. Here's a few of my mods and I'm far from being done... http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/122/l_4555d3ce03ed04bb7dee178cea90ac1d.jpg |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by diamond jim on 05/14/09 at 11:07:26 Doc, I love the Misfits decal. Nice flat black on the engine and header. Loos like you managed to mount the solo seat back some and keep it level. That's not an easy thing to do. |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by Savage_Amusement on 05/14/09 at 14:06:07 Well I wouldn't mod mine if stock didn't suck so much. It is a good base, but real uncomfortable, and if I would not have modded the carb/intake whatever my motor would have melted by now because it was so lean it wasn't even funny. So much for stock being "perfect the way it". |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by sluggo on 05/15/09 at 01:38:29 i too bought my savage in 04 just to bob it. some may not like the looks but i won't hold it against em, just take a look at page 22 of january's ama mag paul wrote the article and the ama chose what shot they wanted to use. http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j257/dsluggo/scan0002.jpg |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by John_D on 05/15/09 at 01:50:37 6D6E7C7F6C7B1E0 wrote:
Well, some of the mods may certainly be for ascetic reasons; we Savages are a weird breed. (Ascetic means stripped down, basic, removing pleasure, self-denial, austere, etc. Think medieval monastery!) But probably a lot of the mods are for aesthetic reasons, meaning for the looks. We want our bike to look the way we like. [/quote] Ah, thanks for pointing out the word I was actually looking for! I wasn't too far off, they're spelled similar. :D |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by SimonTuffGuy on 05/15/09 at 07:17:07 I hate when people come in and start talking how "this and that aren't needed", or "why would anyone do that to this"... First hand experience of that with my last Festiva... I dropped $20,000+++ into that darn car. Why? Because I wanted to, I wanted something that was different than anyone else had built in the past... Something that showed my style, and when I was done, it was awesome (or... at least I thought so). I was to the point where, you could say little about the car that'd bother me. I didn't build it for you, if you have different tastes, that's fine with me too. http://www.pimptiva.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=751&g2_serialNumber=1 Sooo... To the OP. If you don't think the mods are necessary, then don't do them. |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by thumperclone on 05/15/09 at 19:09:28 with sex,food,bikes,fishin etc.. the same old same old is boring!!! ive done minor "mods" to my 06 dyna jet kit, k&n drop in,de snorkel,3" hardchrome slash cut,river road slant bags, sissybar rack and bag,engine guard,ED's forward controlls,leds,fly screen,handle bar set backs,more leds, driving lights,more leds,brake pedal pad... bout 13k on the od no problems |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by Rustbucket on 05/15/09 at 19:11:15 Here's an answer for you. It's a hobby to some. Some people tinker with train sets, Some people like to make their savage/S-40 suite their whims. The carb mods are done only because they sorts have to do it, Either because they went with louder exhaust or want to make perform better or both.. Most mods are for comfort i see, Seat, Windshield, Grips, FWD Controls, so on.. Like you never put a steering wheel cover on a car before??? lol |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by diamond jim on 05/15/09 at 19:43:17 I think the OP, alcoa, has left the room. Where'd he go? |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by marshall13 on 05/15/09 at 20:01:22 624543445245535B5544300 wrote:
steering wheel cover? are you mad? ill bet you dance on sunday too, and rely on electricity..... fire and brimstone if you dont mend your ways...lol ive long found it a waste of time to debate technology with luddites.... |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by diamond jim on 05/15/09 at 21:13:28 Back to the original intent of the OP's rhetorical question as I read it- that mods don't improve the bike or else suzuki would have included it in their designs. Hmmm... it is a great engine and the more I mess with it the more impressed I am with it. But let's face it- suzuki didn't put the same amount of resources and energy into designing the LS650 as they did the B-King, regardless of how much you want to bless the LS650 R&D team. This is a dang good bike but it's not an all out make-it-the-best-with-no-compromises bike. Improving airflow in, fuel mixture delivered and exhaust out do indeed yield more power. Some on here criticized my Kamikaze intake. No problem. They said with the stock airbox the engine gets all the air it needs. That itself shows me they are looking at it only in the aspect of air volume delivered. That has only a little to do with why it works. But not understanding how it works, or how any mod improves the bike for that matter, doesn't negate the fact that it does. Similarly, not understanding how a 1 3/4" diameter exhaust pipe can improve exhaust flow at our normal riding rpms as compared to a 2 1/2" pipe doesn't negate the fact that it does. |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by marshall13 on 05/15/09 at 21:27:43 78757D717372787675711C0 wrote:
i still think you should market that puppy... it maximizes cylinder loading across the band.... how it works it makes perfect sense if you look at it.... it eliminates or at least minimizes turbulence at all throttle positions...non turbulent air packs better, atomizes fuel better, and responds better to vacuum signal.... an equally dense charge in the cylinder at all rev ranges equals a flatter torque curve, and so a straighter HP curve...... maybe size one for the intercooler outlet of a turbo'd busa.... them drag boys live for 2% increases..... ;D |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by diamond jim on 05/16/09 at 14:43:31 It's awesome power especially when the carb is set up with #55 pilot, #155 main, no spacer and idle screw out 1 full turn. That's at 900 ft above sea level with average humidity of 68%. Gas mileage drops some partly because of the jetting but mostly because the throttle gets twisted a lot more. Running the common setup of a #152.5 main and two washers is a little too lean for it. One washer is probably a good medium if you want the grins and still get good mpg. I'd love for someone else to make one, match the carb to it, ride and give feedback. |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by Bobbert on 05/16/09 at 14:44:59 The reason they dont include the mods? Follow the money. It took years for this group of daily riders to figure out some of these mods. If Suzuki wanted to figure out these mods, it would have required taking resources away from the bikes that sell for more and sell in greater numbers. Anyways, I wanted to throw a newer picture up: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v189/Robertomoe/IMGP2158.jpg |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by diamond jim on 05/16/09 at 15:42:50 Bobbert, can you give us the deets on the seat? Model, more pics? That's gotta be one of the best looking bobber solo seat installs I've seen on these bikes. Do it in a separate thread in RSD so other can find it easier when they do a search for bobber and solo seats. |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by marshall13 on 05/16/09 at 15:46:22 666B636F6D6C66686B6F020 wrote:
id say the jetting is more for how open your pipe is... if you ran a more restrictive muff you'd probably be able to lean her a bit... but, mileage and performance are at odds with one another for the most part.... |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by Phelonius on 05/17/09 at 11:55:17 So we all agree, the mods are not a matter of need. They are a matter of want. Phelonius |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by marshall13 on 05/17/09 at 12:04:59 0E363B323130372B2D5E0 wrote:
depends on the mod, and previous mods... the vershlagy is pretty much a "need".... once you attached your sidehack, the swingarm boxing and chain mod both became a "need".... id say any 6'5" rider would consider a seat relocate, and/or forward sets a "need".... open up the exhaust , and rejetting becomes a "need".... |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by Louisiana_Geezer on 05/17/09 at 13:04:36 02090C0C5657600 wrote:
The only negative thing I've heard about the S40 is the backfiring problem it apparently has. From the various threads I've read here, it isn't all that difficult to change this. Do tell, what other things should a prospective S40 buyer such as myself be aware of before he/she plunks down his/her hard earned money? |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by verslagen1 on 05/17/09 at 13:24:09 565B535F5D5C56585B5F320 wrote:
Same seat as paladins and I believe he posted the details. How's the fender stays and muffler mod's holding out bobby? |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by verslagen1 on 05/17/09 at 13:32:18 54736271624045666E7563070 wrote:
I'd recommend doing the maitenance as prescribed in the owners handbook. Keep it full of oil, keep it moving, especially when hot and keep it full of gas, smile as required. pound for pound, dollar for dollar, smiles are cheaper on a savage. |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by diamond jim on 05/17/09 at 17:49:27 6E565B525150574B4D3E0 wrote:
Depends on perspective. There are things I'd need in a bike were I willing to lay down money to buy one for myself. The same goes for everyone else. But since I didn't buy my LS650 for me, but instead inherited it, I found I can meet those needs through mods in regards to performance and comfort. It was the convenience that kept me from letting the bike go initially, It is the result of mods that now make it my daily rider. For me, the seat was too flat, the bars a little too narrow, the foot pegs a little too close, the power- pretty average. Improving all of those have met my needs. Changing lighting, modding foot pegs, enhancing the exhaust sound and other mods satisfied my wants. So, half were needs and half were wants. For someone shorter than me, weighs less than me and/or drives in different conditions than me might see my needs as simply wants. But several mods were needs for me. |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by Wolf on 05/17/09 at 23:40:17 4A474F4341404A4447432E0 wrote:
Depends on perspective. There are things I'd need in a bike were I willing to lay down money to buy one for myself. The same goes for everyone else. But since I didn't buy my LS650 for me, but instead inherited it, I found I can meet those needs through mods in regards to performance and comfort. It was the convenience that kept me from letting the bike go initially, It is the result of mods that now make it my daily rider. For me, the seat was too flat, the bars a little too narrow, the foot pegs a little too close, the power- pretty average. Improving all of those have met my needs. Changing lighting, modding foot pegs, enhancing the exhaust sound and other mods satisfied my wants. So, half were needs and half were wants. For someone shorter than me, weighs less than me and/or drives in different conditions than me might see my needs as simply wants. But several mods were needs for me. [/quote] :D Mods definately needed here... basically a total rebuild while upgrading ... which is cool! I could have left it stock and just replaced parts (over 17k here) and unknown prior maintenance... the costs are similar*. (The Rassk shipping/handling from Sweden is about $120. Sivert Raask is pleasent to work with! I wanted 1 signature item. The rest, bobbit! So, started with a Raask 60mm Dragpipe , then read about the verslavy, so got me one... and a performance cam and nitrided cam chain ... definate slushy soundin happenin here! Massive top knock, so a soon bore/hone and treatment by Bore Tech, o/s OEM piston kit. This should add ease of install (no break-in) and run cooler thus longer. I wanted to clean up the engine, so K&N 1250 air filter and a breather filter since I removed the air box. I gain better carb access with the battery box moved 1" to the rear. I have the jetset kit but I am considering Lancer carb for simplicity for me. Also, since I heard via "HERE" ... I bought the stainless bolt set... so this be a "Bolt Head"... (no covers). Seat modded (damaged), but plan another upgrade eventually. Bobbin it planned here! Oh! I have a spare motor for parts too! Mainly the 5 speed transmission and cam and cam tensioner, chain guides, etc... .... and I might one of these discounted for sale low mileage bikes here to boot and still save $$$ over a more traditional V-twin ;D .... gives my son a bike to ride when he visits.... I get the bobber! My '99 should be up and runnin by end of June... that gives me time for parts to roll in and I still need to disassemble my exisitin motor... hehe So, I vote MOD! ... especially if you rebuild... and have time and money... and money... lol Wolf :D ps. There are many mods that I am doing that, if money is a factor, less expensive options are available. |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by alcoa on 06/01/09 at 08:36:44 I did not want to dis any one, my idea of the post was find out if any of the mods are worth doing, for a better ride. I just got done with idle mix mod going to try it when I go to work at one. thanks to all I have learn things :) |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by daweise1 on 06/02/09 at 05:21:54 Know what they call a bike show with only stock bikes? The dealership showroom..... I mod to do something the rest of the world has not.... I mod to keep my sanity as I have my career, go to college full time at nights and help with a house and 3 kids..... I mod to free my mind of all the creative things that drive me crazy if I could or did not do them....I mod to push others like Demin and DiamondJim have pushed me by showing their bikes... I have owned my bike for 1 year now..... I have ridden it only 10 times over 1 month..... It started leaking gas from a bad weld on the gas tank.... Dangerous, and I could have just sealed it and rode on.... Instead I will have another $5k into it, and something no one else will.... This is no lie.... My application to Grad school is a 10 page paper and graphic rendering of what my bike will look like next to the "before" pictures..... I'm a Business student... It represents free thinking which no school can teach, and I'm richly rewarded with and for..... |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by Rogue_Cheddar on 06/02/09 at 09:59:19 My wife is always saying "You don't need it." to me. I say, "It's not that I need it, but I want it. Now, I need you to go make me a sandwich!" (she stares back with the burning white heat of a thousands suns) "Are you sure that's what you want?" "I ... er... um...nevermind!" :D |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by diamond jim on 06/02/09 at 12:33:59 Hope you don't have any arsenic laying around. If she comes back with a sandwich, a drink and a big smile... well, enjoy! |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by wheel-n-a-wheel on 06/02/09 at 15:16:14 I ain't seen nary nother sickle with one lung and a pipe like mine anywheres in these here mountains. I LOVE being the only one. |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by diamond jim on 06/02/09 at 16:39:51 7F606D6D6425662569257F606D6D64080 wrote:
Don't think we've seen it either. Show us a pic of this legendary mountain pipe. |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by cornfuzed on 06/02/09 at 19:41:29 414C44484A4B414F4C48250 wrote:
Don't think we've seen it either. Show us a pic of this legendary mountain pipe. [/quote] Ask an ye shall receive... Purtty sure this one here was my aunts... ;D http://www.joe-ks.com/archives_aug2003/PipeSmoker.jpg |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by John_D on 06/02/09 at 22:32:46 7F766873792D2A1A0 wrote:
Don't think we've seen it either. Show us a pic of this legendary mountain pipe. [/quote] Ask an ye shall receive... Purtty sure this one here was my aunts... ;D http://www.joe-ks.com/archives_aug2003/PipeSmoker.jpg[/quote] I do believe that is what my college neighbor would call a "party bong"! :o ;D |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by BurnPgh on 06/02/09 at 22:58:50 Only if theres water filtration going on. Otherwise thats just a lung buster. |
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Title: Re: MODS NOT NEEDED! Post by John_D on 06/02/09 at 23:15:39 0235322E102728400 wrote:
Good point! Just goes to show how much I know about it = nothing, lol. Everyone thinks I'm full of it when I tell 'em I've never tried drugs. Other than the legal ones: caffeine, nicotine, and alcohol! ::) |
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