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Title: Front wheel squeal? Post by Fubar on 05/13/09 at 11:44:25 Alright must be my day to post. I have a 2003 savage that I just recently purchased. My front brakes are super touchy and when applied squeal and kinda sudder. Also when I am just rolling if back and forth it squeals like something is rubbing. Is there any sort of adjustment for the front brakes so they aren't so touchy or why it sounds like it's rubbing all the time. I have looked at the pads and they look brand new, also the back brakes squeal. So I am thinking front and rear brakes are new. I know that brake squeal is a common problem with the savages but is there something I can do to get rid of it. As far as the fronts go I barely have to apply them to use and really don't like to because of this. :-/ |
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Title: Re: Front wheel squeal? Post by Yonuh Adisi on 05/13/09 at 11:48:02 The only real way to check brake pads is to take them out and look at them. |
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Title: Re: Front wheel squeal? Post by AngloSaxon on 05/13/09 at 11:53:40 There are brake cleaner products on the market that you could try. As to your brakes looking new...don't be fooled by just looking at them. Take them apart and check them thoroughly, front and back. |
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Title: Re: Front wheel squeal? Post by Fubar on 05/13/09 at 12:09:05 Has far as the wheel making noise just making noise by moving back in forth....any thoughts? Mainly when backing out of the garage. |
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Title: Re: Front wheel squeal? Post by Phelonius on 05/13/09 at 14:57:36 I had that problem after changing my caliper pads last year. It turned out the stealership sold me a set that was for an ATV. When I called EBC to ask what I should do, they sent me the correct ones without charge. It no longer squeels like a pig. This year when I was needing pads I knew which one to get. BTW make sure your caliper is free to move on the sliding pins. This will stop a pad from dragging on the disc. Phelonius |
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Title: Re: Front wheel squeal? Post by Digger on 06/23/09 at 21:28:37 497F7E65785174796379100 wrote:
That MAY be true, but I can get a "95%" check pretty easily by just eyeballing the pads while they are installed in the calipers. |
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Title: Re: Front wheel squeal? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/23/09 at 22:08:22 You should be able to grab the caliper assy & push & pull & create a slight gap between pads & rotor. If you cant, the bolts that it slides on need cleaned up. Might be a good idea to change the fluid. |
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Title: Re: Front wheel squeal? Post by diamond jim on 06/23/09 at 23:45:35 I started developing the brake squeal to the point to where it made that annoying sound every time I braked. I flipped the stock pads but do effect on the squealing. So I did front end tune-up. I removed and flushed out the forks, reinstalled forks, added new oil, increased fork spring spacers from 5" to 6" and changed out the brake pads to DP Brakes (England) sintered metal pads. Between the new fluid, lengthened spacers and the new brake pads, the whole front end feels much more confidence inspiring. |
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Title: Re: Front wheel squeal? Post by PTRider on 06/24/09 at 07:39:32 Excellent replacement pads are EBC FA106 (with no suffix). Pads squeal on the back sides. The steel backing plate vibrates against the iron caliper or steel piston. You can remove the pads, clean up any spots on the backs that show rubbing, lightly sandpaper the friction surface on some fine sandpaper placed on a flat surface, put various brands of anti-squeal goop on the backing plate at the contact points, and reinstall. The minimum thickness of the friction material is 1 mm. When reinstalling the caliper, be SURE you thread the bolts in easily and don't cross thread them. Brake fluid absorbs moisture from the air. Water dissolved in brake fluid causes it to boil (flash to vapor) when heated from heavy braking. Your lever goes to the handgrip (pedal to the floor in a car) and you have no braking. The telltale is that the brakes feel OK again after they've cooled and you've changed your shorts. New brake fluid every two or three years is highly recommended in cars and bikes. DOT4 fluid has a higher wet boiling point than DOT3. All brake fluid is synthetic, so don't get hyped. DOT5 is silicone and must never be used in any system that is not originally designed for DOT5. |
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Title: Re: Front wheel squeal? Post by David M Smith on 06/24/09 at 08:41:36 I had almost the same issue. When inspected the mechanic told me my forks were leaking slowly and draining onto my front breaks. He said I would probably be already for the summer as long as I got them fixed up before next spring. A good winter project. I get a heck of a squeal most days and sometimes worse on "moist" days. Last night I bought some break parts cleaner and let them have it. WOW the liquid ran black out the bottom. Looked like I was spraying oil into it, which technically I was spraying the dirty oil/grease OUT of it. Can't hurt to try that out. However the constant noise may be the issue as someone else stated. Wrong size or they may just rub a little until worn down some be use or manually. |
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Title: Re: Front wheel squeal? Post by Digger on 07/05/09 at 20:41:23 727B65232623160 wrote:
I might be crazy, but if it were me, and I had fork fluid leaking onto the front brake pads, I'd change the pads out ASAP. In my experience, brake cleaner will not totally clean oil-soaked brake pads. If you REALLY need the brakes some day, they may not be there for you unless you put in new pads. I'm just sayin'. Ya'll be careful out there! |
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Title: Re: Front wheel squeal? Post by GrateFuLDad on 07/06/09 at 06:37:34 776079646A7562100 wrote:
mine does this very thing... and if i turn my handlebars to much while backing out it squeals louder... 2003 savage also.. |
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Title: Re: Front wheel squeal? Post by Boule’tard on 07/06/09 at 07:43:15 0336253021023108002520440 wrote:
mine does this very thing... and if i turn my handlebars to much while backing out it squeals louder... 2003 savage also..[/quote] ..and the problem remains through 2005 models. Glad it's not just mine, I thought I might have a stuck piston seal or something. The anti-squeal backing goop helps somewhat with both the regular brake squealing and the lower frequency booOOOOOoooOOOoooop when backing up, but does not cure the problem. Cleaning/resurfacing the disc and pads helps only temporarily. I got some EBC kevlar pads and will install them this week. Will also try the trick of installing one FA106 pad and one FA106/2, and thereafter just install the /2 pads one at a time per SV og LS's advice. Same service interval, and twice the mileage out of the pads for the money. |
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Title: Re: Front wheel squeal? Post by rl153 on 07/06/09 at 07:48:51 My front brakes squeal too on my 2005 s40 . Can you spray brake cleaner on the pads and rotors without taking them apart ,or is that not recommended ? Thanks |
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Title: Re: Front wheel squeal? Post by AngloSaxon on 07/06/09 at 10:20:45 464F5C43444F1B1813132A0 wrote:
You can spray it on when assembled, but you'll have to do some wrench work if you want to clean and lube the caliper guides. |
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