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Message started by NewThumperGuy on 05/09/09 at 06:40:25

Title: Broke off a Crank Case Cover Bolt!!!!
Post by NewThumperGuy on 05/09/09 at 06:40:25

:-[  >:( Grrrrrrrrrr!
Using a torque wrench too! Its one of the bottom ones by the site glass, will it be ok without?? Put on new gasket and all the others are ok.
I plan on a Verslavy install shortly and will remove and replace then if all is well as is for now? What is the best way to remove the broken peice? Where can I get a replacement? Stealership?

This tensioner check and forward control install is definately making me realize I need to work towards raising my patience level.

Title: Re: Broke off a Crank Case Cover Bolt!!!!
Post by verslagen1 on 05/09/09 at 07:15:24

You broke one of those?!?!  at 8 in-lbs of torque?!?!

I replaced mine with a stainless steel kit off of fleabay.

If that's not one with an rubber washer, might be ok for a bit.

I'll send you my old one's for postage.

Title: Re: Broke off a Crank Case Cover Bolt!!!!
Post by NewThumperGuy on 05/09/09 at 07:54:31


203324253A3731333867560 wrote:
You broke one of those?!?!  at 8 in-lbs of torque?!?!

I replaced mine with a stainless steel kit off of fleabay.

If that's not one with an rubber washer, might be ok for a bit.

I'll send you my old one's for postage.


Printed tech section for inspecting, said 10lbs not 8. Wrench did not click the same with that bolt??
Wrote you at your other email requesting a verslavy. Found my plunger out 17mm. Can you throw the bolts in with that package possibly???

Title: Re: Broke off a Crank Case Cover Bolt!!!!
Post by Savage_Amusement on 05/09/09 at 08:29:01

I twisted a stock bolt out with 5lbs, they are junk. I'm glad I got the kit off ebay. About the only time I thought ahead on something lol. Although there are extras in there that I have NO idea where they go.

Title: Re: Broke off a Crank Case Cover Bolt!!!!
Post by NewThumperGuy on 05/09/09 at 08:44:21


4F637E62697E7F78637E693F3C3C3C0C0 wrote:
I twisted a stock bolt out with 5lbs, they are junk. I'm glad I got the kit off ebay. About the only time I thought ahead on something lol. Although there are extras in there that I have NO idea where they go.


What does the kit cost? Who sells them? Maybe I should order before going in again to replace tensioner?
How did you get your bolt out? screw extractor? Need advice on this one.
I'll have the site up all day as I install the forward controls. Turning out to require a little more work then I would have liked but the end result will make it all worth it I hope.  :) Right side fabbed to fit, polishing exhaust, then onto the left side.

Title: Re: Broke off a Crank Case Cover Bolt!!!!
Post by verslagen1 on 05/09/09 at 09:12:29

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SUZUKI-SAVAGE-LS650-S40-polished-stainless-bolt-kit_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a10Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem3ca159b031QQitemZ260405047345QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

Not a bad set, includes every bolt you'll need for the engine.  Short the carb screws, but if you ask I'm sure he'll include them.

Title: Re: Broke off a Crank Case Cover Bolt!!!!
Post by NewThumperGuy on 05/09/09 at 09:37:50


362532332C2127252E71400 wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SUZUKI-SAVAGE-LS650-S40-polished-stainless-bolt-kit_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a10Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem3ca159b031QQitemZ260405047345QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

Not a bad set, includes every bolt you'll need for the engine.  Short the carb screws, but if you ask I'm sure he'll include them.



Just to be sure before asking we need M5 allen head at 10mm and 16mm correct??

Title: Re: Broke off a Crank Case Cover Bolt!!!!
Post by NewThumperGuy on 05/09/09 at 19:58:31

I must be right if nobody is correcting me.  ;D

Title: Re: Broke off a Crank Case Cover Bolt!!!!
Post by Savage_Amusement on 05/09/09 at 23:15:32

I can't remember I went to ace and got all the screws for my carb long before I ordered the kit.

Title: Re: Broke off a Crank Case Cover Bolt!!!!
Post by Balderdash on 05/10/09 at 22:02:21


6C7F6869767B7D7F742B1A0 wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SUZUKI-SAVAGE-LS650-S40-polished-stainless-bolt-kit_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a10Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem3ca159b031QQitemZ260405047345QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

Not a bad set, includes every bolt you'll need for the engine.  Short the carb screws, but if you ask I'm sure he'll include them.



Just got done using that set for a complete job... (replaced the camchain with the one I bought from the group purchase a couple of years ago here)... But I found that the 18 and 19 (from the microfish blow out picture) were about 1/4 inch too long and had to cut them down.  But still, converting everything to a 5MM allen wrench looks pretty enough that I decided to leave the chrome head covers off.


Title: Re: Broke off a Crank Case Cover Bolt!!!!
Post by Hard Corps on 05/12/09 at 14:52:31

You can always try removing the broken bolt with an easy-out.  But be forewarned, easy-outs like to break off, making you even worse off.

Better option is to tap it with a punch, and then use the indent as a guide for a left-hand-twist hardened drill bit.  This should bite in and remove the bolt as you drill it out with the drill in reverse.  

If there's enough of the bolt remaining above the surface you can try welding a nut on and then wrenching it off.  

Sometimes though, none of the above works (or is even feasible).  

In that case, take it to a machine shop.  They should be able to drill out the old bolt for you.  If it doesn't disintegrate, they'll just helicoil/rethread the hole.  Should be about a $50 job if you can't do it yourself.  

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