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Message started by kennycreed on 05/06/09 at 22:19:12

Title: chair
Post by kennycreed on 05/06/09 at 22:19:12

Hi there, I am thinking of running a small sports chair on bike 2 and seem to remember reading something about it in the fourm that somebody was running one but cant find it. Would anybody know if anchor points would have to be welded to the frame like the old type of fixing, or is there a form of clamping ,,cheers,,kenny

Title: Re: chair
Post by verslagen1 on 05/06/09 at 22:41:50

I've been thinking of stealing my dad's ol' road race side car my self.

A search for sidecar will turn up a few of you islanders who like sidecars.

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1240784099/6#6

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1235679890/16#16

Title: Re: chair
Post by Max_Morley on 05/07/09 at 09:23:23

There are mixed schools of thought on how to attached the sidecar mounting arms to the Savage. Velorex makes clamps that many use with great success. for my first one I had a subframe made by a side car fitter that bolts to the bottom of the bike at the foot peg bolts in front, the engine bolts and an unused lug near the rear and then is secured again by the allen head cap screws that go around the swing frame pivot. It does change ground clearance but provides 2 very stout mounting points. There is also a 2nd brace that goes from the upper swing frame cap screws to under the shock, providing another stout place for that point. 4th pint is on the down tube using a special clamp that doesn't damage the tube. Uses Heim joints and large threaded rods so adjustment is infinite and easy. Velorex uses bands about 2 inches long that a pinch bolt (3/4 x18 or so) is attached too that actually puts a dent on the frame pipe it goes around. I am trying to decide on my second on which way to go. I think Royal Enfield uses the Velorex method so there are many cars mounted this way. Phelonis makes his own brackets but he is a talented machinist and has lots of experience mounting sidecars. He runs with the big boys on their Motoguzzis w/cars and has done some off road work with his. You might want to go to the USCA site for more information. In theory the car is supposed to be about 1/3 the weight of the bike. I'm not sure all follow it as I've read about light cars on heavy bikes that work just fine. Maybe take more practice and skill to ride. I'm in a holding pattern right now with my 2nd car deciding on a tug and mounting choices. Max

Title: Re: chair
Post by kennycreed on 05/07/09 at 10:01:26

http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo345/kennycreedab/BR6eu-wB2kKGrHgoOKi4EjlLmZ1SBKd4m7L.jpg

Hi there this is what I am thinking of as a winter project to fix it up and clamp it to the bike,,I was looking at the bike frame and i wouldn't want to start welding fixing points on it as the metal is pretty thin so I will have to figure out some clamps,,cheers

Title: Re: chair
Post by Phelonius on 05/07/09 at 16:30:03

444A4141564C5D4A4A4B2F0 wrote:

That's a nice off road hack. Considering that you live in a place where all the folks drive on the wrong side of the road, it should do nicely.
Did you ever wonder why with our British heritage, we do not drive on the same side of the road as the UK?
It is because most folks are right handed and when on horseback, a knight always kept oncoming traffic on the side where he best wielded his sword.
We here in the colonies however, grew up in the age of the Kentucky long rifle. By resting the rifle across the saddle pommel one could keep a watchful eye on oncoming traffic without seeming agressive.

Some things never change. I.E. suspicions of oncoming traffic.

Phelonius

Title: Re: chair
Post by John_D on 05/12/09 at 06:03:32

447C71787B7A7D6167140 wrote:

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http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo345/kennycreedab/BR6eu-wB2kKGrHgoOKi4EjlLmZ1SBKd4m7L.jpg

Hi there this is what I am thinking of as a winter project to fix it up and clamp it to the bike,,I was looking at the bike frame and i wouldn't want to start welding fixing points on it as the metal is pretty thin so I will have to figure out some clamps,,cheers

Title: Re: chair
Post by PhilM on 05/12/09 at 06:48:28

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"Since I started riding, I'm not only suspicious of the oncoming traffic, but the traffic going the same direction too! ;D Everyone around here on 4 wheels (or more) act like they're playing one of those video games where you get more points for running people down. ::)[/quote]
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I've just got back from a morning riding around in the centre of London. Only two emergency stops! A taxi, and a woman pushing a baby out in front of me. >:(

http://s1.b3ta.com/host/creative/23179/1242135791/london.jpg

Title: Re: chair
Post by John_D on 05/12/09 at 07:05:30

152D2C2908450 wrote:

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I've just got back from a morning riding around in the centre of London. Only two emergency stops! A taxi, and a woman pushing a baby out in front of me. >:(

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Holy cow! :o You have my sympathy if you have to deal with that traffic often. And I thought Friday afternoon rush hour traffic in Portland was bad! ::)

Title: Re: chair
Post by eyeore302000 on 05/12/09 at 07:57:36

WOW that traffic looks awful !! I'll cruise throught atlanta any day LOL !!

Title: Re: chair
Post by Phelonius on 05/12/09 at 13:01:59

Go to the tech section and read about cracked swingarm.

Phelonius