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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Rubber Side Down! >> FREAKED OUT about cam chain and tensioner!!! /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1241352713 Message started by NewThumperGuy on 05/03/09 at 05:11:53 |
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Title: FREAKED OUT about cam chain and tensioner!!! Post by NewThumperGuy on 05/03/09 at 05:11:53 I read up on the Verslavy and cam chain tensioner last night and now I'm concerned about the state mine could be in. So much that I'm scared to ride her now till I know for sure!!! My 97 savage has 21,846.7 km on it and I'm wondering if it has ever been looked at. I recently eliminated head light rattle and touched up the headlight and have noticed I still have some other noises. Cam chain possibly??? I recently modded the air filter, jets and exhaust too so wonderin if this may have caused a little more stretch? I need to investigate but also want to make sure I have everything I need, ie exhaust header gasket etc and want to know where to get them at a fair price. I will pm Verslagen and Lancer next about the parts but in the mean time I would like to hear about others experiences and findings regarding this topic. Much appreciated everyone. NewThumperGuy |
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Title: Re: FREAKED OUT about cam chain and tensioner!!! Post by Demin on 05/03/09 at 05:51:13 13,000 miles.I was riding it like this.I tried adjusting the valves,didn't help.I found this site looking for info.I've got the Verslavy(pinned to not come apart,and a second hole)I'm a believer,and the noise quieted down.Now I love these bikes.3 so far. http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2007/09/21/bikepics-1030794-800.jpg |
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Title: Re: FREAKED OUT about cam chain and tensioner!!! Post by diamond jim on 05/03/09 at 08:40:59 I got lucky and found someone who graciously made me a new extensioner: http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh128/russ_diamond_jim/1-29.jpg The Verslavy, which you can order from Verslagen, is the way to go. It's pretty much a fix it and forget about it deal. I got mine made for free but it probably would have cost 2-3x as much as a Verslavy if I had to pay for it. |
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Title: Re: FREAKED OUT about cam chain and tensioner!!! Post by odvelasc on 05/03/09 at 08:43:06 where is this verlsavy? Is it top right corner above the sprocket? |
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Title: Re: FREAKED OUT about cam chain and tensioner!!! Post by verslagen1 on 05/03/09 at 08:53:48 This is a verslavy... http://verslagen.savageriders.com/CamChainClub/fixed.jpg The very 1st one in fact. It thumps along very happily for the last 20k miles. |
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Title: Re: FREAKED OUT about cam chain and tensioner!!! Post by odvelasc on 05/03/09 at 14:08:47 HOw much? And why do I need it? lol |
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Title: Re: FREAKED OUT about cam chain and tensioner!!! Post by verslagen1 on 05/03/09 at 14:28:59 3F3426353C312333500 wrote:
Price is posted. There's a pinned plunger mod and a 2 hole mod. The pinned mod prevents :o freaking out. Why? because once the plunger is pinned to the housing it will never come out. How about that for piece of mind. Never, never worry about the chain coming loose and slipping a cog. Never will you worry with every passing mile, is it time. listen, hear a noisey chain, it's time. No kapow, sputter, sputter. Just clankety clank. I still listening after 20k. And the 2 hole mod allows you to reach the factory limits of stretch on the chain. |
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Title: Re: FREAKED OUT about cam chain and tensioner!!! Post by Wolf on 05/03/09 at 14:52:13 I just received my verslavy ;D... and my performance cam too! So that side of the engine is getting a massage! As I open her up, the topend will become important as the valves, rockers and cam chain... I'll post pics of my progress ;) Wolf :D |
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Title: Re: FREAKED OUT about cam chain and tensioner!!! Post by NewThumperGuy on 05/03/09 at 16:50:43 Wolf plz do so, thinking along the same lines you are apparently. Make her the "savage" beast she deserves to be. ;D So I'll open her up and do the check as Verslagen suggests but I need a clutch cover gasket. Can I get one at any bike shop? Stealership? Part #, anything to make my hunt a little easier? |
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Title: Re: FREAKED OUT about cam chain and tensioner!!! Post by verslagen1 on 05/03/09 at 17:02:30 SKU: 11482-24B11 GASKET, CLUTCH COVER http://www.babbittsonline.com/pages/parts/viewbybrand/1/Suzuki.aspx |
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Title: Re: FREAKED OUT about cam chain and tensioner!!! Post by NewThumperGuy on 05/03/09 at 17:21:09 Can someone hook me up with one of these? http://suzukisavage.com/images/uploaded/BPcover3.jpg Verslagen thanks for the link. Maybe I could get u to slip one of these in with the verslavy???? |
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Title: Re: FREAKED OUT about cam chain and tensioner!!! Post by marshall13 on 05/03/09 at 17:33:19 50424542554A4E270 wrote:
i can send you the old pad from my s-10s clutch, pretty sure it's still bouncing around the cab somewhere...lol |
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Title: Re: FREAKED OUT about cam chain and tensioner!!! Post by Sandy Koocanusa on 05/03/09 at 18:53:46 New Thumper Guy, I'm sure someone will come up with a reason I shouldn't have, BUT... I just used some gray Form-a-Gasket type stuff instead of a new paper gasket when I did my tensioner extensioner. It was Permatex with a NAPA label, as I recall. I'd have to get out of my chair and go look to be positive. It worked great. No leaks so far. No hassle trying to find a place to buy it, either. |
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Title: Re: FREAKED OUT about cam chain and tensioner!!! Post by verslagen1 on 05/03/09 at 20:10:27 5E4C4B4C5B4440290 wrote:
Sure if I can find it. will let you know. |
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Title: Re: FREAKED OUT about cam chain and tensioner!!! Post by verslagen1 on 05/03/09 at 20:13:04 525455574A4C5756380 wrote:
The only issue is the cover captures a gear on a shaft supported by the cover. As long as there's enough clearance, no problem. |
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Title: Re: FREAKED OUT about cam chain and tensioner!!! Post by NewThumperGuy on 05/04/09 at 05:06:47 33203736292422202B74450 wrote:
Sure if I can find it. will let you know.[/quote] Thanks Verslagen, just came across it in tech section thought it would make another nice addition. ;) |
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Title: Re: FREAKED OUT about cam chain and tensioner!!! Post by NewThumperGuy on 05/04/09 at 05:22:22 677463627D7076747F20110 wrote:
Wow, just looked at site. $65+ shipping on a $14 dollar gasket!!!!! ::)Asked about other options and a better quote, see what they come back with. |
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Title: Re: FREAKED OUT about cam chain and tensioner!!! Post by diamond jim on 05/04/09 at 05:48:22 Are you saying they are asking $65 for a clutch cover gasket? If so, you read something wrong or they got some wrong info showing on their website. |
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Title: Re: FREAKED OUT about cam chain and tensioner!!! Post by verslagen1 on 05/04/09 at 07:18:58 It's your canadian address, customs and insurance and the labor to get it all done. |
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Title: Re: FREAKED OUT about cam chain and tensioner!!! Post by PTRider on 05/04/09 at 07:24:04 $14 at Westfieldsuzuki.com $17.50 at bikebandit.com I've been told that finding a U.S. vendor willing to send the parts via U.S. Postal Service (no customs clearance cost) can be a problem, and that parts send via UPS incur a hefty (maybe unnecessary) customs clearance cost. |
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Title: Re: FREAKED OUT about cam chain and tensioner!!! Post by Skid Mark on 05/04/09 at 09:21:36 Had stuff shipped from the US both ways. Post is the way to go!!! |
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Title: Re: FREAKED OUT about cam chain and tensioner!!! Post by NewThumperGuy on 05/04/09 at 09:46:25 626F676B6968626C6F6B060 wrote:
Jim, thanks but can read just fine. Probably my wording was a little confusing. Gasket was listed @ $14 but shipping for it (USPS) was going to be $65+ alone. Still have not received a message back with other options. Aiming for postal service if they'll swing it! Better look aroung locally while I wait. Going to be close to a "stealership" tomorrow, what do you think the odds are of them having one in stock? ::) |
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Title: Re: FREAKED OUT about cam chain and tensioner!!! Post by matt_savage on 05/04/09 at 10:29:00 Prolly not good odds that they have one in stock, but they should be able to order it for you no problem. I usually place my order thru my dealer on say a Monday and they'll have whatever I need on a Thursday. Skid shipping that way and most of the smaller parts are the same price online (gaskets and bolts and nuts). I usually source out most of the bigger parts I need thru Ron Ayers or similar other places/websites. -Matt |
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Title: Re: FREAKED OUT about cam chain and tensioner!!! Post by NewThumperGuy on 05/04/09 at 11:12:37 Thx Matt, and you were right none in stock but got him to get it added to the shipment and he says will be there tomorrow late morn when I roll in. $18.48 Canadian, had him toss a couple oil filters on top of the order so I have on hand when needed. Thx again to all. I will update and possibly add a couple pics when I pull the cover and investigate. |
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Title: Re: FREAKED OUT about cam chain and tensioner!!! Post by diamond jim on 05/04/09 at 12:01:34 3C2E292E3926224B0 wrote:
Jim, thanks but can read just fine. Probably my wording was a little confusing. Gasket was listed @ $14 but shipping for it (USPS) was going to be $65+ alone. Still have not received a message back with other options. Aiming for postal service if they'll swing it! Better look aroung locally while I wait. Going to be close to a "stealership" tomorrow, what do you think the odds are of them having one in stock? ::)[/quote] Ok, I see now. Wow. I'm not familiar with that international shipping stuff. |
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Title: Re: FREAKED OUT about cam chain and tensioner!!! Post by vtail on 08/07/09 at 10:32:53 Update, 12000 miles, Tensioner 14.5 mm (1st check). Mobil1 15W50 after breakin. Clutchcover came off so smooth that I re-used the gasket which stayed on the cover. Just slackened the adjuster on the handle bar clutchlever, slipped out the clutch-cable so I did not have to undo it at lever on the cover. Exhaust chrome at head like new (no blue-ing which is an indication of too lean a mixture) |
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Title: Re: FREAKED OUT about cam chain and tensioner!!! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/07/09 at 10:51:23 I just walked into a bike shop & they punched a few buttons & cut the gasket out. They werent a Suzuki shop, just an independent, but its a computer controlled gasket maker. $14.00, no freight, no wait. |
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Title: Re: FREAKED OUT about cam chain and tensioner!!! Post by Mr. Hyde on 08/07/09 at 10:55:52 Many online dealers really stick it to Canadian buyers and 99% of the time their shipping charges are crap. I was going to buy a Trapp from an East coast dealer until he told me shipping to my Canadian address was going to cost $75 US - USPS. I told the guy to keep it. I went with another dealer in California. Got the muffler for $40 less and shipping was only $32.00 - USPS air. As we speak there's an ebay dealer who wants $60 for a set of friction plates and $60 to mail them to a US or Canadian address. The dealer's in Connecticut. He could probably stick them in a padded envelope and drop them in a mail box for $5 including the cost of the envelope. |
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Title: Re: FREAKED OUT about cam chain and tensioner!!! Post by verslagen1 on 08/07/09 at 11:29:03 Having done it a few times, I can tell you shipping international is no picnic. I sweat out every international shipment. So by doubling the price of shipping, he's including some money for his time. And telling you he doesn't want to do it. Especially on an expensive item that needs insurance. Find a friend on the border that can receive for you. |
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Title: Re: FREAKED OUT about cam chain and tensioner!!! Post by photojoe on 08/07/09 at 16:42:52 I think that most places giving high shipping rates for parts like gaskets may be sticking it to the buyer. Canadian Post is a good system and pretty cheap for first class mail. I have a lot of experience receiving parcels from Canada, and looking at the stamp, shipping rates seem to be around $US15 to $20.00 for a 2-3 pound box via Express Mail. Now, through ebay I've only shipped to Canada a couple of times and even a camera lens was around $20 (depends of course what part of Canada.) Buyers receive them fast enough also. It only requires a few minutes of my time to fill out the proper paperwork which I keep right here in my home office. Add $5 for my time and the 4 block walk to the post office. When my Son was attending University in Glasgow, Scotland, I shipped stuff to him all the time. I remember sending him a pretty heavy full length wool coat in a pretty big box. It was only $40, and that was from the States across the pond. What you're shipping would depend on how much you sweat I guess. An expensive part is more of a headache, and of course if the seller is a legit company here in the States, they would have to be honest about the contents IE: pax taxes customs charges for the contents, but, that's something the buyer has to pay, not the seller. Most companies will not do the "personal gift" thing. There are countries/continents that I will not ship to. A few examples would be anywhere in Central America, Asia, Eastern Europe or the Middle East. Actually, there are only a few of them that I will ship to. |
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Title: Re: FREAKED OUT about cam chain and tensioner!!! Post by photojoe on 08/07/09 at 16:58:56 Oh yeah, with regard to the tensioner/cam chain, I've been getting a bit "Freaked Out" myself after reading these posts for the last couple of days. I pulled up to a stop sign today after a 2 miles stretch doing 50-60 mph, and heard some light metal on metal sound. My heart sank into my stomach. Turned out to be a loose buckle on my tool bag hitting the handlebars as I was slowly riding over potholes on my way to the stop. But yeah, I feel like I'm playing Russian roulette at 20K. There's just a tad bit of chain noise when I first fire her up after sitting overnight. It only lasts a minute or so, then it's gone. But, that little scare today gave me what I needed to open her up before I do the Hawks Nest ride after Labor Day. I don't want to push all of the good luck I've had so far with this bike. |
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Title: Re: FREAKED OUT about cam chain and tensioner!!! Post by verslagen1 on 08/07/09 at 17:17:09 Put your right foot or hand on top of the clutch cover If itsa knockin' you bedda go in. |
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Title: Re: FREAKED OUT about cam chain and tensioner!!! Post by Serowbot on 08/07/09 at 18:48:57 293A2D2C333E383A316E5F0 wrote:
Can you really feel it with your hand?.... That would be a big help.... |
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Title: Re: FREAKED OUT about cam chain and tensioner!!! Post by verslagen1 on 08/07/09 at 18:59:33 If it's bad enough sure but I wouldn't want to let it get that bad myself. note: i forgot which appendage to put on top of the case, a foot will do. |
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