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Message started by poor student on 04/30/09 at 01:45:57

Title: Spring Deal on New 09 S40, need opinions!
Post by poor student on 04/30/09 at 01:45:57

Hello everyone. I've had a Rebel last year. I bought it used, but went through a lot of wrenching because the bike had issues with the rusty gas tank and electrical problems. I got sick of it and sold it off.

I've been looking around for a decent bike that would accommodate my small size (I'm about 5'1 and 100lbs). I like the Ninjas old/new, but I get tired from riding around town with one foot on the ground. I recently went to a dealership down the main road from my house and they're having this great deal on a white 2009 S40 for $3899. Of course that isn't the OTD price, but at least the MSRP price went down by $1000.

Should I drop the down payment and take this deal? What other suggestions do you guys have to offer for future owners like me?

Title: Re: Spring Deal on New 09 S40, need opinions!
Post by John_D on 04/30/09 at 02:07:14

Personally, I love mine, but then it's my first bike, so I'm kinda biased.  At your size, I would imagine it should be comfy too; at 5'11" and literally twice your mass, I need some highway pegs soon, to let me stretch out a little. ;D
I'd go with it, especially if it's the color scheme I'm thinking of, with the gray on the gas tank too.  And the price is under what I paid for my '08, I'm jealous! :o

Title: Re: Spring Deal on New 09 S40, need opinions!
Post by Jay on 04/30/09 at 02:17:49

$$ way under what I paid for my '08, and I thought I got a steal. If you can swing it, you won't be sorry. It'd be hard to find a used for less enough to make it attractive, to me anyway. I like to tear up my own toys! 8-)

Title: Re: Spring Deal on New 09 S40, need opinions!
Post by LANCER on 04/30/09 at 02:59:09

You have to make the money decision, but as far as the bike is concerned you won't find a better all around machine on the road.  Like any machine, it has a few little quirks but they are easily corrected.  
I have ridden bikes since '66 and have found that bike singles make the best multi-purpose machine on the road.  They are easy to ride, easy and inexpensive to fix, and are just plain fun.

Title: Re: Spring Deal on New 09 S40, need opinions!
Post by SimonTuffGuy on 04/30/09 at 04:08:59

That's a great price, compared to what the retail for them is now...

Title: Re: Spring Deal on New 09 S40, need opinions!
Post by diamond jim on 04/30/09 at 05:06:59

That sounds like a good deal to me.  There are also several 1-2 year old bikes S40s out there with low miles for less but it can be tough for someone to come up with $2500-$2800 whereas buying new gives you payment options.  Mine in an '06 that I bought new last summer.  Mine was advertised for $4300 out the door.  So I guess it was probably around $3800-$3900 before TTL.  As far as fit, I'm 6' and weigh 250.  With just about every bike I've had, I've done something to either the bars, seat, risers and such regardless of how well the bike fit when I first bought it.  Some want a bike that they need to do nothing to and that's fine.  I accepted long ago that I'm eventually going to mod those so it's not a biggie for me.  Doing mods to my seat, risers, bars and the addition of forward controls has made my bike the most favorite riding position of I think about any bike I have had, modded or not.  The bike is great for smaller framed people but has amazing potential to be adaptable to larger people as well.  Plus, I have a lot more fun modding a bike that cost what it does compared to one that costs say $8K or more.  Parts costs less as well.  

Title: Re: Spring Deal on New 09 S40, need opinions!
Post by doc5446 on 04/30/09 at 07:03:31

I hafta say go for it!!!

Title: Re: Spring Deal on New 09 S40, need opinions!
Post by Mr. Hyde on 04/30/09 at 07:48:03

That's a real deal and if you never make the commitment you'll never own the bike. If you decided to move on afterwards you won't be loosing much if any money on a re-sell.

Title: Re: Spring Deal on New 09 S40, need opinions!
Post by Skid Mark on 04/30/09 at 07:55:53

That seems like a good deal. They are listing for around 5k cdn up here. I'm 5' 4" and the bike fits me well. Have had my 08 for a year and no regrets whatsoever.

Title: Re: Spring Deal on New 09 S40, need opinions!
Post by odvelasc on 04/30/09 at 08:45:48

Just do it, come on do it. Do it, just do it, come on do it. Jussssttttt dooooo iiiiiiiiit!!

Title: Re: Spring Deal on New 09 S40, need opinions!
Post by PerrydaSavage on 04/30/09 at 09:02:42

Yup ... agreed ... DO IT!!!! At that price for a new '09, it's a STEAL!! 8-)

New '09 S40's are retailing for $6800 CDN over here in Nfld.  :(

Title: Re: Spring Deal on New 09 S40, need opinions!
Post by vhfkid on 04/30/09 at 15:29:59

That's a steal! Just saw a black one for MSRP last weekend at the stealership, they were no where near 1000 off!!!

Take it and run... er ride  ;D

Title: Re: Spring Deal on New 09 S40, need opinions!
Post by poor student on 04/30/09 at 22:51:22

Hey guys. So OTD price, it's about $900 for freight and dealership blah blah. $200 for regist, $600 for tax. So with everything, it's about $6,000 OTD.

The only down side is that I don't have a co-signer. I'm still young, I have good credit, but my credit is limited as I've only had one credit card over the past two years.

Hm..what to do?

Title: Re: Spring Deal on New 09 S40, need opinions!
Post by SimonTuffGuy on 05/01/09 at 04:24:29

Tell them to waive the delivery/dealership costs and you'd be more interested...

Those are some crazy charges! PA registration is $36. Our sales tax (@ 6%) was only $240, and that was for $4,000 (which is what I paid for my leftover 07 in 2008).

Certainly not worth $6,000 out the door. (To give you an idea... My $4,000 bike cost me $4,700 after taxes, title and tags, and the delivery cost - There's no way it should be 3x that amount)

Title: Re: Spring Deal on New 09 S40, need opinions!
Post by ero4444 on 05/01/09 at 10:05:01

well now I think your decision is clear.  If you really are a poor student then you should get a used bike with as low miles as you can get, not too hard to find.

Title: Re: Spring Deal on New 09 S40, need opinions!
Post by poor student on 05/01/09 at 18:22:21


4D777371704A6B7878596B671E0 wrote:
Tell them to waive the delivery/dealership costs and you'd be more interested...

Those are some crazy charges! PA registration is $36. Our sales tax (@ 6%) was only $240, and that was for $4,000 (which is what I paid for my leftover 07 in 2008).

Certainly not worth $6,000 out the door. (To give you an idea... My $4,000 bike cost me $4,700 after taxes, title and tags, and the delivery cost - There's no way it should be 3x that amount)


Well that's because you live in PA where living expense is much cheaper. I live in California. Our state is going through a crappy time and we had a tax raise on everything so it's 8.75% and some parts in my city is doing 9.75%. So just tax itself was a little over $550. I'm lucky that I don't live in LA where certain areas have raised to 10% tax on everything. Registration and all sorts went up as well.  

Title: Re: Spring Deal on New 09 S40, need opinions!
Post by Staplebox on 05/01/09 at 18:43:45

You should be able to find a used Savage for under 2k.  In Cali you get plenty of ride time and get your moneys worth, I'm lucky to get 6 months here in CT.    If you like a sportier style the Buell Blast is a small cheap decent bike.  Supposed to get 70mpg.

Title: Re: Spring Deal on New 09 S40, need opinions!
Post by verslagen1 on 05/01/09 at 19:06:04

Go for a used one.

http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/mcy/1147811112.html

Get a '95 or later.  If you don't want to work on it, something less than 10k miles will be ok for a while.

BTW what city?

Title: Re: Spring Deal on New 09 S40, need opinions!
Post by poor student on 05/01/09 at 19:39:00


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You should be able to find a used Savage for under 2k.  In Cali you get plenty of ride time and get your moneys worth, I'm lucky to get 6 months here in CT.    If you like a sportier style the Buell Blast is a small cheap decent bike.  Supposed to get 70mpg.


Yeah, I'm lucky to live in San Diego where it's warm all season, but sometimes the weather can be very unpredictable from month to month. I did check out the Buell Blast and have researched on it, but unfortunately that bike is a HD. The Blast is a hit or miss bike as you can get one that is unreliable with all sorts of problems or get one that has none. So I find it not a good choice.

I live in San Diego and I've checked craigslist. There's just two listings of the savage and not much to offer. These bikes aren't very common in my city.

That's why I picked to get a new one and luckily landed a nice deal at the dealership. But I fell short trying to finding a co-signer and I'm trying to figure out who can co-sign with me.


Quote:
well now I think your decision is clear.  If you really are a poor student then you should get a used bike with as low miles as you can get, not too hard to find.


I work hard just like everyone else here. I'm a student so I don't make a six figure salary, but I learn to save up my money. I did have a used bike and I end up spending way too many days fixing the bike between my busy schedule of working two jobs and going to school. I didn't enjoy it because I wasn't riding it.

Title: Re: Spring Deal on New 09 S40, need opinions!
Post by Jay on 05/01/09 at 23:01:39

Craig's List isn't your only source for used bikes. Try Cycle Trader. I did a quick search for a "Savage" and found 3 within 150 miles of San Diego, all under $3000. A search under "S40" revealed nothing but new. I know Ontario is a drive, but for the right bike at the price you need, it's small price to pay. I'd considered going to OK City from my home in Fort Worth, when I stumbled on my deal in my own backyard.

Title: Re: Spring Deal on New 09 S40, need opinions!
Post by PTRider on 05/02/09 at 06:32:49


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I've checked craigslist. There's just two listings of the savage and not much to offer.

Check daily, or even twice daily.  Have the money ready and make the phone call for an as-soon-as-possible test drive when the listing appears.  If the right motorcycle at the right price is listed, you want to make the first call and get it if it is what you want.  You never know when someone needs the money and lists a great Savage or something else at a great price.  In this area "Cycle Trader" is mainly dealership listings, and that might be OK if a dealership needs to unload some inventory today.  As you've found, credit is unavailable except for the highest scoring borrowers and cash is king.  Good luck in your search.

Title: Re: Spring Deal on New 09 S40, need opinions!
Post by merhlin on 05/02/09 at 06:54:06

Hi, this is my first time posting but there are a few available on CL in the Seattle-Tacoma area.


merhlin

Title: Re: Spring Deal on New 09 S40, need opinions!
Post by merhlin on 05/02/09 at 06:55:01

No pic on this one but the price is right....
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/mcy/1141849740.html

Title: Re: Spring Deal on New 09 S40, need opinions!
Post by LANCER on 05/02/09 at 07:08:39

When searching for bikes I use 3 titles; Suzuki Savage, Suzuki S40 & Suzuki LS650.  I do that on ebay, craigslist, or where ever, and it helps to find all of those available regardless of how the owner/seller listed it.  
Also, when searching craigslist, I go to every city listed within 200 miles of of  area I want.  It seems that folks often will list the item ina town that may not be the closest to them ( why ?  I have no idea but they do), and I also cover serveral cities.  I live dead center in SC and have every city in the state that is on craigslist, as well as the closer cities in NC anc GA.  I am going to add TN as well.  This gives me about a 200 mi radius from which to choose.

Title: Re: Spring Deal on New 09 S40, need opinions!
Post by merhlin on 05/02/09 at 07:23:14

Lancer, on a given day, about how many do you see on CL in your 200 mile radius? Just curious -  there are usually 2 -3 listed here in the Seattle-Tacoma area on a regular basis, mostly in the $2500-3500 range. I paid $2400 for my 2001 2 years ago at a dealer w/8000 miles on it. i was looking for a bike but had never even heard of the Savage until one caught my eye as I was headed to one of the local gun ranges, so i stopped to check it out. It was a Saturday and I couldn't get back to buy it until Monday after work - I was sweating bullets hoping no one else had picked it up in the meantime!!

merhlin

Title: Re: Spring Deal on New 09 S40, need opinions!
Post by stratman on 05/02/09 at 14:34:23

Hi Poor Student.  I bought a 2005 s40 with 3000 miles on it for $2800 last August.  It's my first bike and I love it.  I'm toying with the idea of getting another Suzuki... M50,90 or 109 but I haven't ridden any of them yet.  I can tell you that I haven't had this much fun since I rode my mini bike when I was 12.  I agree if you buy one you won't be sorry.  I think there's a reason they keep making this bike after 40? years. Good Luck  

Title: Re: Spring Deal on New 09 S40, need opinions!
Post by poor student on 05/02/09 at 20:56:57

Thank you everyone for all your suggestions!

I'm going with my mom tomorrow to see if her credit qualifies to co-sign with me. It's definitely a big step as I'll be working hard this summer to pay this motorcycle off.

Title: Re: Spring Deal on New 09 S40, need opinions!
Post by Yonuh Adisi on 05/02/09 at 21:35:42

Good luck Poor Student, we're all rooting for ya.

Title: Re: Spring Deal on New 09 S40, need opinions!
Post by Wolf on 05/03/09 at 15:06:09

Look in the Marketplace, several Savages on sale there...  1 for $2500 w/2400 miles... others for sale also.  Craigslist (local/nationwide search) and Ebay also.  Don't forget the dealerships and pawnshops.  Deals can be had with CASH in hand.

Wolf  :D

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