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Message started by mrplease on 04/26/09 at 14:26:08

Title: help! wifes bike won't start.
Post by mrplease on 04/26/09 at 14:26:08

well like i said, my wifes bike won't start. i started it & took it around the block. everything was just fine then i parked it in front of the house. anyway when i got back on to start it up it made one little click sound and then nothing. no lights. it won't even try to turn over. it isn't like a dead battery. it seems more like it lost a connection as it seems like NO juice is going thru the battery...

Title: Re: help! wifes bike won't start.
Post by odvelasc on 04/26/09 at 14:38:06

Did you turn off the kill switch? lol. Check your battery as well if you have a charger. You will get that click even with out the battery.

Title: Re: help! wifes bike won't start.
Post by Savage_Amusement on 04/26/09 at 14:51:42

Ton of connectors are under the seat that could have come loose. Battery connections could have became loose, I'm not sure but I think it kind of acts the same way if you try to start it in gear with out having the clutch pulled in all the way. Hard to say without seeing the bike.

Title: Re: help! wifes bike won't start.
Post by odvelasc on 04/26/09 at 15:00:08

Is the kickstand down while in gear? Put it in neutral, if light comes on then you still have power or if your headlights come on at all.

Title: Re: help! wifes bike won't start.
Post by odvelasc on 04/26/09 at 15:01:20

whoops oh yeah no lights. Doesnt matter if its kill switch or kickstand down lol. Yeah, disconnected somewhere, maybe at the battery, but for sure check your battery power. Might be time for a new one. You can have checked for free at a stealership.

Title: Re: help! wifes bike won't start.
Post by verslagen1 on 04/26/09 at 15:07:35

Fuse ok?

check the ground on the engine.

Title: Re: help! wifes bike won't start.
Post by Oldfeller on 04/26/09 at 15:21:30

Kill switch position is #1 newbie mistake, #2 most popular trick is turning the key all the way past the "ON" position all the way over to the "PARK" position (which only energizes part of the electrical system but allows the headlight to burn and drain the battery).  

#3 most popular newbie goof is forgetting we have interlocks on the clutch lever (must be pulled in), on the neutral gear light (must be in neutral w/green lite lit) and on the kickstand (must be folded up into the "go" riding position -- or else you have to be in neutral with the green light lit AND with the clutch lever pulled in).

Fourth most popular newbie mistake is screwing around with the #1, #2  or #3 mistake long enough to deplete the battery just a little bit --  just depleted enough so engine will will turn over but NOT actually start -- this is due to battery stored voltage dropping below 12 volts which makes the electronics black boxes act irregular on firing the plug but the starter motor will still try to operate and weakly move the engine to roll over.

Solution to 1 through 4 is to charge the battery thoroughly over night with a 1 to 2 AMP motorcycle charger.   Then in the clear light of day LOOK at the position of the handlebar kill switch position and the ignition switch ON position.  SIT ON THE BIKE with the side stand folded up and the key in "ON" position, pull the clutch lever in and hit the start button.  

Vroom.  Disgusting, ain't it?


Title: Re: help! wifes bike won't start.
Post by mrplease on 04/26/09 at 16:40:16

where are the fuses located?

i really don't feel like its the battery. like i said it started up very strong 5 minutes before. and then when i put the key in i turned it to the on position and no lights even came on. not the front light or not even the green little neutral light. even if it was a low battery wouldn't the front light be on but real weak? especially the green neutral light.

Title: Re: help! wifes bike won't start.
Post by mrplease on 04/26/09 at 16:42:15


647760617E7375777C23120 wrote:
Fuse ok?

check the ground on the engine.


how do i check the grond on the engine?

Title: Re: help! wifes bike won't start.
Post by odvelasc on 04/26/09 at 17:08:28

Aside from the forum, here is the sinlge best resource you will have for trouble shooting and doing anything on the bike.
The download link I created for the clymer repair manual. It will help you with you problem.
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1236700171


Title: Re: help! wifes bike won't start.
Post by verslagen1 on 04/26/09 at 17:19:32


534C4E525B5F4D5B3E0 wrote:
[quote author=647760617E7375777C23120 link=1240781168/0#5 date=1240783655]Fuse ok?

check the ground on the engine.


how do i check the grond on the engine?[/quote]

Make sure the bolt is tight, clean (err as clean as something can get on the bottom of the engine), and not eminating sparks.

Title: Re: help! wifes bike won't start.
Post by mrplease on 04/27/09 at 09:14:20

ok guys, can someone tell me where the fuses are located and how to get to them. i'm going to check that.

the ground is good.

Title: Re: help! wifes bike won't start.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/27/09 at 09:41:54

You can reach the fuseblock under the rt side of the seat. No real need to pull the seat, unless youd rather do that than struggle to find & reach it. It IS accessible, but far from convenient with the seat on. I want to say its up underneath the thigh, butt area of the rt side of the seat. Its a white plastic block, not too big, just holds 2 fuses I think.

Title: Re: help! wifes bike won't start.
Post by SimonTuffGuy on 04/27/09 at 12:51:44

2 20A fuses right in a little white block panel that's under the rigth side of the seat (sitting on the bike). Most likely, that'll be your issue.

Title: Re: help! wifes bike won't start.
Post by Savage_Amusement on 04/27/09 at 13:14:55


073D393B3A0021323213212D540 wrote:
2 20A fuses right in a little white block panel that's under the rigth side of the seat (sitting on the bike). Most likely, that'll be your issue.



Then to find out what made it blow.

Title: Re: help! wifes bike won't start.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/27/09 at 21:23:32

So, the thing to do would be,, IF one is blown, buy more than 1.
replace the fuse & see if it blows.
If no, then go for a ride, carrying fuseSS with you.
Then keep them with you.
If yes.
Study the diagram & see which circuits load that fuse.
Look for a connector that will break the wiring harness, yet leave that fuse with 12 volts to it & unhook it.
See if it blows.
No? Reconnect the connector to make the harness complete again.
Yes?
The problem is in the wiring thats still in the circuit.
Look for it. Eyeballs are good.
In a totally dark room,sometimes a tiny arc can be seen.

Common problem areas include the wires that go into the headlight.

I THINK I remember seeing that. Confirmation anyone?

Someone may have a slicker approach. I am a bit of a hammer mechanic.

Title: Re: help! wifes bike won't start.
Post by verslagen1 on 04/27/09 at 23:26:03


312E282F32350434043C2E22695B0 wrote:
Common problem areas include the wires that go into the headlight.

I THINK I remember seeing that. Confirmation anyone?


I've seen that too, many shorts have been in the head light area.

Title: Re: help! wifes bike won't start.
Post by mrplease on 04/30/09 at 09:09:30

well problem solved. i took the battery to batteries plus and found out it was bad. well got a new one and it started right up!

thanks for the help

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