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Message started by NewThumperGuy on 04/06/09 at 11:35:00

Title: Air box removal question
Post by NewThumperGuy on 04/06/09 at 11:35:00

I just removed my battery box and intend to shift it back so the K&N fits better. I'm just removing the hidden airbox bolt/nut now. Where is the best place to put the black box from under the left side cover??

Title: Re: Air box removal question
Post by matt_savage on 04/06/09 at 11:58:12

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That above is where mine is at.  One of many places, I've also seen it secured to a panel under the seat level with the two frame backbones.  

Title: Re: Air box removal question
Post by diamond jim on 04/06/09 at 12:13:52


7A686F687F60640D0 wrote:
I just removed my battery box... I'm just removing the hidden airbox bolt/nut now...


You must be quite ambidextrious to work on your bike with one hand while typing with the other!  :D

Title: Re: Air box removal question
Post by NewThumperGuy on 04/06/09 at 12:25:32

Jim, lol back and forth, back and forth. Just asked you in my SE II post about your battery box bracket lengths and bolt hole positioning????

Matt thanks.

Lookin at those wires and scratching my head wondering the easiest way to clean them up now that that air box is removed??

Title: Re: Air box removal question
Post by diamond jim on 04/06/09 at 12:31:58

I lengthened a few of the wires enough so that I could route them securely and safely inside of the frame supports.  

Title: Re: Air box removal question
Post by NewThumperGuy on 04/06/09 at 12:36:27

I hope to avoid lengthening, but if it has to be done then it has to be done.

What is the long tube going from the airbox to the right side of the cylinder and what should I do with it now?

Title: Re: Air box removal question
Post by matt_savage on 04/06/09 at 12:45:56

That's the vent tube going from the head to the air box.  If you remove the air box put a small cone filter on the end of the tube and keep it above the carb for venting purposes.  I got the filter at Advance for like $8.  

Title: Re: Air box removal question
Post by NewThumperGuy on 04/06/09 at 12:59:58

Thx again Matt,  I'll have to have a look around for one. Not sure where to find in my area?

Title: Re: Air box removal question
Post by diamond jim on 04/06/09 at 13:12:17


34262126312E2A430 wrote:
I hope to avoid lengthening, but if it has to be done then it has to be done.

What is the long tube going from the airbox to the right side of the cylinder and what should I do with it now?


I don't think anything has to be lengthened except maybe the ground cable.  You might not even have to do that.  Just personal preference.  It allowed me to wrap all the wires in protective loom and tuck them nicely out of the way.  

Title: Re: Air box removal question
Post by Savage_Amusement on 04/06/09 at 14:05:19

For now I have mine between the frame rails right under the seat. Down the line I hope to make a box that will hide all of the ugly "important" stuff.

Title: Re: Air box removal question
Post by NewThumperGuy on 04/06/09 at 18:03:22

Did a search for small cone filters and came up with nothing.
What size do I need??

Title: Re: Air box removal question
Post by Ed L. on 04/06/09 at 18:34:02

you can use a inline fuel filter, get one for a law mower or ride on tractor.

Title: Re: Air box removal question
Post by NewThumperGuy on 04/07/09 at 05:15:00

Ed, fuel filter as air filter? Thinking about purchasing your forward controls for my ride next. Look for my PM, will be wanting shipping cost to get them to me.

Found an auto parts store that carry the smaller ones close to my house. Intend to call later today to c if in stock!

Title: Re: Air box removal question
Post by NewThumperGuy on 04/07/09 at 09:25:37

Ok, I've been to three spots and all are having a hard time finding the filter I need.

I measured the I.D. of the tube leaving the header and it's 7/16", where did everyone else find or get there little air filters????

Title: Re: Air box removal question
Post by Gort on 04/07/09 at 11:29:29

Got mine at Autozone.  It was on the wall with the Hi-Performance chrome parts.  Some have suggested that you mount the breather higher than the engine so that it does not drip oil.  I found it easier to mount mine lower, and it does drip a tiny bit over time, but I don't care. The Savage oil breather vent system is a mild puffer and will be restricted if you use a fuel filter.
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk80/tlukatch/OILBREATHER.jpg

Title: Re: Air box removal question
Post by diamond jim on 04/07/09 at 12:26:31

I've got the same as Gort.  Well, I switched to it I should say.  I did have the little red, non-tapered cone with a nipple that is slightly smaller than the ID of the tube.  A clamp solved that.  Then I started thinking about how small that little hole is in the nipple.  So I went and got one like Gort's.  It may not necessarily be better but I think it is.  If nothing else, it gives me peace of mind that the puffing is unobstructed which I didn't get with the little red one.

Title: Re: Air box removal question
Post by NewThumperGuy on 04/07/09 at 14:19:03

Thx Gentlemen, more great knowledge for us newer savage owners to absorb.

Title: Re: Air box removal question
Post by Wolf on 04/19/09 at 14:57:01

My lil breathercone is Red!  I'll add pics here but looks almost exactly like Gort's!  It now makes my K&N look a faded red...

I also left the rubber jacket on the "Magic sh!t box", zip tied to the bike frame underneath the seat.  Easy to get at and secure.

Wolf   :o

Title: Re: Air box removal question
Post by verslagen1 on 04/19/09 at 15:49:55

That's Magic sh!t box to you junior.   ;D

Title: Re: Air box removal question
Post by diamond jim on 04/19/09 at 17:36:52


150611100F0204060D52630 wrote:
That's Magic sh!t box to you junior.   ;D


Dang right!

Title: Re: Air box removal question
Post by Wolf on 04/20/09 at 06:30:13

I read in an earlier thread that someone used the muffler support to mount both the MSB and the "rectifier"(sp).  Any concerns with this location... wet, dirt, no issue....  It does take awhile to dissasemble to get at the airbox, but you gotta do it sometime...  Not bad if you have the Savage CD companion and a Clymers...  

Wolf  :)

Title: Re: Air box removal question
Post by diamond jim on 04/20/09 at 07:08:27

The horizontal plate that is part of muffler support is always dirty on mine.  In my riding environment I wouldn't mount either of them there.  My rectifier is close to that area but it's mounted on the part of the rear fender that faces the stock battery box.  I've got a frame-mounted cover that protects the rectifier that is shaped to capture and direct fresh air up towards the intake.  

Title: Re: Air box removal question
Post by Savage_Amusement on 04/20/09 at 17:18:49


447C7F75130 wrote:
I read in an earlier thread that someone used the muffler support to mount both the MSB and the "rectifier"(sp).  Any concerns with this location... wet, dirt, no issue....  It does take awhile to dissasemble to get at the airbox, but you gotta do it sometime...  Not bad if you have the Savage CD companion and a Clymers...  

Wolf  :)



Well not to counteract anything that Jim has said but if you look at a lot of bikes the rectifier is right on the front of the bike. Either up by the headlight or right smack where the tire dumps garbage right on it. Putting some dielectric grease between the connections will keep them clean and working great. Although somewhere safe is not a bad idea.

Title: Re: Air box removal question
Post by diamond jim on 04/21/09 at 04:40:43

SA, you are correct.  I have seen it in several different locations on bikes that exposes it to the elements.  Good call on that one.

What is everyone's opinion on the need to mount the rectifier flush against metal (to enhance heat dissipation capability) vs. mounting the rectifier to plastic, adding rubber under/behind it to prevent vibration noise or some other way that inhibits direct heat transfer to a metal support?

Title: Re: Air box removal question
Post by Savage_Amusement on 04/21/09 at 15:08:22

I'm going to have to ride my bike around and see how hot it actually gets. I think that just the fact that it isn't under the seat (on my bike anyhow) it gives it a TON more air exposure. So possibly needing to not be mounted right to metal. I don't see how it would hurt to have airflow 360*. Plus with anything heat sink wise I've messed with at work on machines had heat sink compound which really helps in getting the heat away because it is making a solid contact.

Title: Re: Air box removal question
Post by Rogue_Cheddar on 04/21/09 at 15:52:20

"rectifier"(sp)."

We always called it rectumfrier in shop class.  
I know, Iknow, how juvenile! Go ahead, say it, you know you wanna!  :D

Title: Re: Air box removal question
Post by verslagen1 on 04/21/09 at 16:46:17


073A3220300A163D3031313427550 wrote:
"rectifier"(sp)."

We always called it rectumfrier in shop class.  
I know, Iknow, how juvenile! Go ahead, say it, you know you wanna!  :D

I guess that's why it's under the seat... waiting for you... to scoot back just a little more.  Buhaha... Bwuhaha.   [smiley=evil.gif]

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