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Message started by Chopped on 03/15/09 at 20:53:21

Title: wiring....
Post by Chopped on 03/15/09 at 20:53:21

Ok so Im gonna use the simplified wire diagram in the TECH section... what gauge wire do I need... IE... for ground, hot, things of that nature...

Title: Re: wiring....
Post by Charon on 03/16/09 at 06:03:11

You might be a little more explicit about what you are trying to do. Except for the starter wiring you can probably use 16 gauge wire for pretty much everything. If you are going to combine a lot of circuits onto one wire you might use 14 gauge. The ground (return) wire needs to be just as big as the supply wire. You will need to make sure to run a ground wire between the fork assembly and the frame, or else you are depending on the conductivity of the greased head bearings. Electrically, it is better to use return wires and not depend on the frame for anything. The body and frame is used for a return in cars because it is cheaper and easier, not because it is better.

Title: Re: wiring....
Post by thumperclone on 03/16/09 at 06:13:31

20 amp fuse = #12 awg
15 amp fuse = #14 awg

Title: Re: wiring....
Post by Chopped on 03/16/09 at 08:01:05

hey thanks guys!

Title: Re: wiring....
Post by Chopped on 03/17/09 at 08:50:59

so.... I am gonna need some help with the wiring... like a foreign language! Good thing I speak a coupld but darn!

Title: Re: wiring....
Post by dasch on 03/17/09 at 10:23:08

It's not that hard. I kinda speak copper language :-) If you gonna use the simplified diagram, there's really mostly cutting wires and getting rid of them. Unless you want to move components around. What exactly do you need? What do you want to get as the final result?

Title: Re: wiring....
Post by Chopped on 03/17/09 at 10:54:56

I have my harness pulled off and labeled... I am trying to figure out which of the wires coming out of the the ignition switch is for the park lights so I can use that the starter switch... and then go from there... I want to run one lead and one ground and splice everything off that... will it work?

Title: Re: wiring....
Post by Charon on 03/17/09 at 11:42:41

The parking light wire is not just the parking light - it is also the running taillight. When the ignition switch is put into Park it connects the battery line to the taillight and disconnects everything else. So if you connect the starter relay to that, the starter will run but the ignition will be off. You should be able to get an Off-On-Start switch off pretty much any riding lawn mower with electric start, if that's the idea. I presume you intend to disconnect or bypass the clutch, kickstand, and neutral safety interlocks, too. For that, you are on your own. I will not advise anyone on bypassing safeties, as I think it rather foolhardy to do so.

Title: Re: wiring....
Post by Chopped on 03/17/09 at 11:44:50

too late...already bipassed... ie removed... been riding that way for a while now! I am looking at the wiring diagram from the techsection to get rid of my decomp sylenid and relay....

Title: Re: wiring....
Post by Chopped on 03/17/09 at 20:11:32

well pulled the ol' Savage Bible out I downloaded.... well I have succesfully rewired the bike... even though it looks like nuts... it works for what I need! I am almost done with the Ultimate RAT SAVAGE!

Title: Re: wiring....
Post by thumperclone on 03/17/09 at 20:16:25

am courious how you by passed the de comp..

Title: Re: wiring....
Post by Chopped on 03/17/09 at 20:32:43

I kept it for now! I will get rid of it later!

Title: Re: wiring....
Post by T Mack 1 on 03/18/09 at 18:14:10


17203939012027253C3B550 wrote:
I kept it for now! I will get rid of it later!


You will need to release compression or kiss the starter goodbye.  

I suggest you look at the Enduro bikes.  A lot of them use a manual thumb lever on the handle bar (clutch lever side).    I know my friend's Yamaha XT 550  had a fairly small almost hidden one.   I think is was a 1984 or was it  '82 or '83.....  hmmm somewher around there.



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