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Message started by matt_savage on 03/08/09 at 09:39:58

Title: washers that came with Lancer's jetset?
Post by matt_savage on 03/08/09 at 09:39:58

So I'm preparing to rejet my carb with Lancers jetset in the next week. I noticed that the washers that came with the jetset to replace the needle spacer are metal whereas the spacer in the stock carb seems to be nylon? Is it ok to use the metal washers or should I go and find nylon equivalents at Lowe's? Thanks,

-matt

Title: Re: washers that came with Lancer's jetset?
Post by Oldfeller on 03/08/09 at 10:08:12

Matt,

Lots of folks have steel washers in their carbs -- the washer spaces off a tiny spring tension so the washer being made of steel or nylon is pretty much unimportant. The thickness of the stacked item is what counts.

Title: Re: washers that came with Lancer's jetset?
Post by diamond jim on 03/08/09 at 11:36:50

Matt, Lancer doesn't get it wrong. Don't doubt the master.

Title: Re: washers that came with Lancer's jetset?
Post by prechermike on 03/08/09 at 11:42:43

I did not get a kit from Lancer, but he certainly seems to know what he is talking about. I got metal washers from the hardware store and they would not fit. The ID was right, the OD was too big. I ended up going back and getting nylon ones that would fit. Someone then posted a comparison on the diamaters of washers and found quite a difference. I suggest taking the spacer with you and making sure whatever you get is the same size.

Title: Re: washers that came with Lancer's jetset?
Post by diamond jim on 03/08/09 at 11:57:45

Matt, the most common setup I've see on here, especially with bikes that have a pod air filter or replacement K&N filter and a HD muffler is using 2 washers in place of the white spacer. Personally, I use none. No spacer at all of any kind. But that is what works best for my air and exhaust pipe setup.

Title: Re: washers that came with Lancer's jetset?
Post by SavageGreaseMonkey13 on 03/08/09 at 15:43:39

the washers i got in his kit did not fit right. they were to big to go in the slide. when you get ready to install them make sure they fit in the slide hole where the needle goes and that they move freely.

Title: Re: washers that came with Lancer's jetset?
Post by Rogue_Cheddar on 03/08/09 at 18:12:05

I bought Lancer's kit last year but he wasn't putting washers in them at the time. I bought four 3mm stainless steel washers at ACE hardware. I'm only using two for the time being. They fit with no problem.

Title: Re: washers that came with Lancer's jetset?
Post by LANCER on 03/09/09 at 03:58:46

7472697A767A7C7E6D1B0 wrote:

Title: Re: washers that came with Lancer's jetset?
Post by LANCER on 03/09/09 at 04:04:42

3538303C3E3F353B383C510 wrote:

Matt, Lancer doesn't get it wrong. Don't doubt the master.

Title: Re: washers that came with Lancer's jetset?
Post by prechermike on 03/09/09 at 05:39:19

4D404F4244531316210 wrote:

[quote author=3538303C3E3F353B383C510 link=1236530398/0#2 date=1236537410]Matt, Lancer doesn't get it wrong. Don't doubt the master.

Thanks for the vote of confidence, but errors are made even with the best of intentions. The metal washers I get are a Mikuni item and they have several sizes available, and occasionally I get a batch that have some of the larger size mixed in with them so I have to go through and remove them and hopefully get them all. [/quote]

Like I said, when I replaced my spacer with washers they would not fit either. I think it is interesting that Lancer is getting washers that are made for our carbs, maybe not for that particular application, but for the carb itself that are different sizes. That tells me alot about quality and pride in your job. But I guess when you are simply watching things slide down a line, there is not much craftsmanship in that.

I guess I am a jack of all trades and master of none. Growing up in the country you had to do things yourself or not get them done. (I asked momma one time if we were poor, her response, "No, we just don't have any money.") I learned to fix alot of things without the proper part, to make do as best I could. I am not crying about that, I am glad I was able to figure out as much as I did. But when something is suppose to fit and it doesn't, that presents a whole new set of problems. I really like going for a part for anything (car, truck, boat, sink or whatever) and they just look at you like you have lost your mind.

That could lead me to another rant about customer service, but not now. Lancer, I am sure you do your best to get the wrong size washers out of the box, but there should not be any wrong ones in there to start with. That problem starts higher up the chain and just gives you one more thing to do that you probably don't have time for.

Title: Re: washers that came with Lancer's jetset?
Post by SavageGreaseMonkey13 on 03/09/09 at 15:38:53

474A45484E59191C2B0 wrote:

[quote author=7472697A767A7C7E6D1B0 link=1236530398/0#5 date=1236552219]the washers i got in his kit did not fit right. they were to big to go in the slide. when you get ready to install them make sure they fit in the slide hole where the needle goes and that they move freely.

Did you let me know at the time you got the JETSET that I had sent the wrong washers ? I do recall finding some in my washer bin that were larger than the correct ones and thought I had cleaned them out. If you received some of the wrong size wahsers then there may have been others as well that I missed.
Is there anyone else out there that received the wrong washers ?
I hate that I did not catch that.[/quote]

No i never said anything about it. The reason is that once in opened up the carb and found out that they didnt fit i noticed i had an adjustable needle already installed so i never put them back in. I didnt even think to say anything to you at the time.

Title: !
Post by LANCER on 03/09/09 at 20:00:59

Wow, you actually have one of the rare needles with the 3 grooves !

21273C2F232F292B384E0 wrote:

[quote author=474A45484E59191C2B0 link=1236530398/0#7 date=1236596326][quote author=7472697A767A7C7E6D1B0 link=1236530398/0#5 date=1236552219]the washers i got in his kit did not fit right. they were to big to go in the slide. when you get ready to install them make sure they fit in the slide hole where the needle goes and that they move freely.

Title: Re: washers that came with Lancer's jetset?
Post by dasch on 03/10/09 at 02:22:31

So do I. I was quite surprised too.

BTW, the metal washers you sent me were just a micron too big OD wise. Not actually too big, but rough finished edges, so they would catch and stuck. And than I saw the little circlip and grooves :-)

Title: Re: washers that came with Lancer's jetset?
Post by LANCER on 03/10/09 at 06:50:15

OK, there are more folks who have had difficulty with the washers. I really need to check this more closely.

Title: Re: washers that came with Lancer's jetset?
Post by diamond jim on 03/10/09 at 07:32:32

I ordered my kit back in October I think. It came with 3 washers. I changed out the jets but didn't use any of the washers. I had removed the spacer all together. Last week I pulled the washers out and tried 2 of them. They fit. I didn't like how it ran so I went back to no spacer.

Title: Re: !
Post by SavageGreaseMonkey13 on 03/10/09 at 16:33:23

[quote author=323F303D3B2C6C695E0 link=1236530398/0#11 date=1236654059]Wow, you actually have one of the rare needles with the 3 grooves !

actually i think mine is the dynojet needle it has more than three grooves. five i think. was in there when i got it.

Title: Re: washers that came with Lancer's jetset?
Post by LANCER on 03/10/09 at 17:59:34

I checked and all the washers I have now are the correct ones.