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Message started by BurnPgh on 03/01/09 at 21:45:25

Title: lookin'
Post by BurnPgh on 03/01/09 at 21:45:25

To ditch the stock muffler for something that doesnt weigh a freakin ton. Plus I dont imagine it'll be too much longer before the bottom of it rusts out and its ugly. I would highly prefer not to rejet. I like my mileage. Any options?

Title: Re: lookin'
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/01/09 at 22:52:51

Supertrap with only 6 or so baffles..

Title: Re: lookin'
Post by BurnPgh on 03/02/09 at 00:00:00

particular model number or anything?

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Post by dr1445 on 03/02/09 at 08:02:17

this is called a dunstall style muffler from jc whitney. hope the link works. i have used the shorty meg version which is the same basic setup. i replaced the fiberglass packing with the stainless steel wool type. remember that the savage carb is setup lean from the the factory, and any replacement muffler that is lighter than the stock model will flow better making a leaner condition.
www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/ProductBrowse?storeId=10101&Pr=p_Product.CATENTRY_ID:2006467&productId=2006467&catalogId=10111

Title: Re: lookin'
Post by T Mack 1 on 03/02/09 at 09:04:25

1225223E003738500 wrote:

Remember, there is a point where too lean affects mileage too. Plus, the heat can burn valves that will make mileage drop quick.

It's a fine line, good luck.

I chose to rejet and got power.... now I just have to stop using the power....

Title: Re: lookin'
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/02/09 at 11:44:56

Been too long for me, Burn, sorry. Mine looks like the one on that HUGE Bike,TRike, Car thing. Personally, I lean toward the look of the Dyna takeoff mufflers. The $$$ difference is huge. I went with the TRapp because its tuneable & a reakl mechanic could get the performance out of the bike. Some guys here are getting good mileage & better performance. Its a trade off, but just getting less MPG is no proof of power increase.
I dont know what the MPG would drop to with a proper jetting on a dyna exhaust, but it would increase airflow & get some opwer increase, only spend about $20.00 instead of around $300.00 (IIRC). The Difference in MPG, say its 5MPG difference, One deliver 45, the other 50, Then with gas at $2.00/gallon, 100 miles on the 50 MPG exhaust,$4.00, On with the 45 MPG,, $4.40, so every 100 miles saves 40 cents, in order to save the difference between the High MPG exhaust & the Low MPG( Mo fun ride, too) & save 4-0 cents / 100 miles, & save, say $280.00, have to ride 70,000 miles.( Dang, did I get the decimal off?) 700 forty cent pieces =$280.00 & it takes 100 miles to save the 40 cents, so 700 times 100 miles ,, wow,, its really 70,000 miles? Yikes!
So, if you ride a lot, you can reach parity sooner. Me? Id Lo buck it & have the $$ in my pocket right now.Well, Maybe I would, heck, Its easy to pretend I know what Id do, BUt who CARES what I wopuld do, anywway, this is Your call,, just tossing out ideas.

Comes down to How much $$$ can we spend to save MPG & it actually BE a savings?

Title: Re: lookin'
Post by verslagen1 on 03/02/09 at 12:02:42

4572756957606F070 wrote:

particular model number or anything?

The supertrapp web site list it.
Every once in a while someone sells one here, usually less than $200.
Dealers want over $300 for 'em.

Title: Re: lookin'
Post by BurnPgh on 03/02/09 at 13:21:33

supertrapp is way too expensive. Seems there are several dyna take offs that work but on account of I have a low tolerance for buttholes Id like to be able to go in and rattle off a part number without having to shovel a bunch of manure or deal with comments when I say its for a suzuki. What "style" dyna take offs have y'all got?

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Post by bluesavage218 on 03/02/09 at 13:22:56

I've got a Jardine on mine but it's gonna cost a good $250+

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Post by gazoo07 on 03/02/09 at 13:49:10

Definitely Supertrapp. It costs a little more than the universals but it bolts right up. No adapters or shims. Great fit, sounds great and it is adjustable so you wont have to re-jet if you use 4 to 6 discs and and you will get performance improvements even if you dont re-jet http://www.thumperpage.com/articles/ls650exh.html. And later if you decide to re-jet you can just add more discs. This is the cheapest price I have been able to find on it http://www.motorcycleproshop.com/detail.asp?product_id=728-50650. The picture is of it is on an Intruder but this is the right part # for the Savage/S40 728-50650
Gazoo www.lubedealer.com/1lube

Title: Re: lookin'
Post by verslagen1 on 03/02/09 at 14:13:53

It looks like they've improoved the design alittle. It used to be a rolled cone and tube welded together. Now looks like a 1 pc. construction.

And yeah, best price I've seen.

Title: Re: lookin'
Post by Mr. Hyde on 03/02/09 at 15:24:32

Well they don't ship outside the US which is a real bumber as I already had my finger on the 'order' button.

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Post by Jumprefusal on 03/02/09 at 15:40:57

I bought that same dunstall style muffle dr1445 linked to and it's great. First I tried a generic shorter (I believe 16") muffler they sell in all the catalogs but the baffle was awful, it was too short, and it was just plain ugly.

This one on the other hand is nice and long, looks great, and sounds spectacular. It also seems to have the build quality of a much more expensive muffler. I've gotten a few comments on how good it looks.

You will definetly need an expander, it's the same size as the header pipe.

Title: Re: lookin'
Post by Savage Eddie on 03/02/09 at 17:17:46

I also have a Jardine and like it, sounds good and looks good, loud when you get on it and fairly quiet at low idle speeds...

heres the order and description page

86-04 SUZUKI LS650 SAVAGE, 05-07 S40 (http://www.jardineproducts.com/products/searchType/vehicleSearch/year/1996/make/SUZUKI/model/LS650%20SAVAGE%20S40/sfID1/4/sfID2/8/sfID3/57/productID/680)

Title: Re: lookin'
Post by Educatedredneck on 03/02/09 at 22:29:22

If you want a Dyna canister, you want to ask for one that will fit a 2004 or earlier with NO crossover. Just go up to the parts counter and ask them if they have any take-offs.

Bolts right on, but, you WILL need to re-jet.

Title: Re: lookin'
Post by verslagen1 on 03/04/09 at 20:50:46

was looking thru some old posts and found this

http://www.cyclepages.com/ProductDetails.aspx?ProductID=4032303

Title: Re: lookin'
Post by doc5446 on 03/04/09 at 20:53:08

I have that SuperTrapp on mine and it works great but I did rejet.

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Post by Mortation on 03/04/09 at 20:54:14

65726373727B7B6E647879170 wrote:

How does the Dyna sound in comparison to the Jardine? I have a sound file of a savage with the Jardine and it sounds pretty good.

Title: Re: lookin'
Post by Rustbucket on 03/27/09 at 10:54:06

2D3B787D7D7C490 wrote:

I tried to get that one form JC Whitney but they have a 3 wk delay in shipping. Now 3 wks later they pushed the ship date back to April 23. I found the same muffler at Sears.com http://auto.sears.com/DUNSTALL-STYLE-MEGAPHONE-MUFFLER/Product.htm?catalogId=10624&N=600025922&productId=2006467
Should be here in 7-10 days. Same price but add $4.00 for tax.

Title: Re: lookin'
Post by sakara on 03/27/09 at 13:45:50

Mr. Hyde,

I'm just across the creek working in Niagara Falls. PM me for my personal info if you want to get together and I can ship the thing to ya man.

-Kit