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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Rubber Side Down! >> Savage has been sitting for over 4 years... /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1235968044 Message started by dan savage on 03/01/09 at 20:27:24 |
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Title: Savage has been sitting for over 4 years... Post by dan savage on 03/01/09 at 20:27:24 So, my mom bought a 1996 savage 4 or 5 years ago but she never got her license. I have been having fun fixing my car lately so i decided to get my license, get the bike goin again, and steal it. =] So far i have: -removed fuel tank and emptied out old gas that had been sitting in there -bought a new spark plug and battery Still plan on: -removing and cleaning carb tomorrow hopefully -put sea foam in the gas and oil Is there anything im missing? Should i be getting new tires too? Thanks, Dan |
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Title: Re: Savage has been sitting for over 4 years... Post by Yonuh Adisi on 03/01/09 at 20:30:48 Do the tires show signs of cracking and dry rot? |
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Title: Re: Savage has been sitting for over 4 years... Post by Trippah on 03/01/09 at 20:41:44 Five years is about the outside limit; if you have the $, I'd get new ones..flats are no fun. |
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Title: Re: Savage has been sitting for over 4 years... Post by dan savage on 03/01/09 at 21:01:44 yeah, they've been sitting in an uninsulated garage the whole time in northern il. got lucky and the mother offered to replace the tires =D Is there other stuff i should be replacing that goes bad or anything while im still workin on it? Anything you guys really recommend replacing/upgrading right away? |
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Title: Re: Savage has been sitting for over 4 years... Post by verslagen1 on 03/01/09 at 21:07:46 change the oil |
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Title: Re: Savage has been sitting for over 4 years... Post by thumperclone on 03/01/09 at 21:28:03 inspect brakes and surfaces..front brake fluid lights, cables, hoses.....etc got manual (if you do let him free) tools? |
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Title: Re: Savage has been sitting for over 4 years... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/01/09 at 22:50:24 Wouldnt run too wold with it soon as you get it going, take time, check it out slowly. Be a drag for something to bind up wide open in a turn. |
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Title: Re: Savage has been sitting for over 4 years... Post by T Mack 1 on 03/02/09 at 03:20:33 Don't put Seafoam in the oil, only thegas. The clutch is bathed in the engine oil. |
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Title: Re: Savage has been sitting for over 4 years... Post by mpescatori on 03/02/09 at 04:43:46 6E756F7F742C2E1C0 wrote:
If I were you, I'd seriously consider changin the gas and clutch cables, they've been sitting there soaking in all the moisture and may well snap if they're rusty enough... It's only a few bucks but I'd hate to see either cable snap 30+ miles away from home AND away from the shop! |
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Title: Re: Savage has been sitting for over 4 years... Post by Charon on 03/02/09 at 05:50:20 If you cleaned out the tank and the carburetor, the Sea Foam is a waste of money and time. If you didn't, Chevron's TECHRON additive is probably a better cleaner. Personally, I would get the bike started and running before I spent the money on tires (and tubes and rim strips, too). Most motorcycle makers recommend changing the brake fluid every two years. Many also recommend changing the brake hose every four years and the rubber fuel and vacuum lines, too. It is said, if you replace the brake hose with one of the steel braided hoses (expensive) you will get better brake feel and the hose will last forever. |
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Title: Re: Savage has been sitting for over 4 years... Post by diamond jim on 03/02/09 at 05:59:29 Basically, if the bike is mechanically sound then it won't cost much to get it in really good condition. But it will take several little things and a good bit of time. Outside of tires, maybe $150 max for cables, hoses, fluids, filters and fork seals (if needed) and then simply time and patience for lubing, bolt checks, belt adjustment, etc. You might even do a few other things like the front seat raise mod. When all done it will be in great shape. |
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Title: Re: Savage has been sitting for over 4 years... Post by dan savage on 03/02/09 at 06:42:07 Thanks a ton for all the responses! My new checklist is: -tires(tubes, rim strips) -gas & clutch cables -brakes & brake fluid -brake hose(steel braided?)/rubber fuel & vacuum lines -filters |
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Title: Re: Savage has been sitting for over 4 years... Post by serowbot on 03/02/09 at 06:47:52 front fork seals may be weepy,... but don't replace them right away... once oil gets up around the rubber, with a few days riding they may seal up again... if not, it's one more thing for the list... |
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Title: Re: Savage has been sitting for over 4 years... Post by bill67 on 03/02/09 at 06:58:54 I would put sea foam in the gas tank and in the engine oil run it five miles and change the oil,I have never changed brake fluid in bikes that were 20 years old with no problems.How often to you change brake fluid in a car.I've have used SEA FOAM for years never had to take a carb apart to clean.Use 100 pure gas if you can get it. |
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Title: Re: Savage has been sitting for over 4 years... Post by dan savage on 03/02/09 at 09:51:48 How hard is it going to be for me to replace the gas and clutch cables? I have the repair manual downloaded at home that ill take a look at once I get there but I'm at school now and just trying to figure out as much of this as i can before i leave ;D |
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Title: Re: Savage has been sitting for over 4 years... Post by verslagen1 on 03/02/09 at 10:13:35 R&R of the cables is fairly easy. Shouldn't take more than an hour if you don't break anything. ;D |
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Title: Re: Savage has been sitting for over 4 years... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/02/09 at 11:28:24 I think the "Get it running first" idea was spot on. Be a drag to spend a load of $$$ on tires & have an engine hassle. Was it parked where the sun was shining on it? The belt is tough, but UV may weaken it. |
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Title: Re: Savage has been sitting for over 4 years... Post by dan savage on 03/02/09 at 17:14:37 It was parked in an un-insulated garage the whole time. Hasnt seen much light or anything. |
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Title: Re: Savage has been sitting for over 4 years... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/02/09 at 22:18:45 I get the 100% silicone oil used in copier fuser sections from copier repair places to put on rubber & plastic. Its much better than armorall. Better get all U can, its not used so much any more. Just dont buy the stuff thats thick as syrup.Get the thin stuff. |
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Title: Re: Savage has been sitting for over 4 years... Post by bill67 on 03/03/09 at 15:54:04 Charon,how did that chevons techron work for you,I've never heard of it. |
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Title: Re: Savage has been sitting for over 4 years... Post by Charon on 03/03/09 at 18:21:11 Chevron's Techron additive is supposed to be the same stuff they put in their fuel. It is available at WalMart and no doubt other fine retailers, in the same area as other gas additives including Sea Foam. Its MSDS includes such stuff as about 55% petroleum distillates and 35% Stoddard Solvent aka mineral spirits, and a couple of other solvents including benzene and xylene. Truthfully, I couldn't tell any difference after using it, so I figure either A) the carburetor was already clean enough and the Techron wasn't needed or B) it didn't work. Some years ago I read an item saying Yamaha had developed a fuel system cleaner that DID work, in response to lots of warranty claims. Years ago they shipped bikes with fuel in them, remaining from their startup testing. Some of those bikes sat for a long time with fuel in the tanks and carbs, and their dealers were billing them a lot of money for carb cleaning on new bikes. So Yamaha put the boys in the lab to work developing a cleaner. I don't know what it was called, nor whether it is available to the public. Might be worth looking into. |
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Title: Re: Savage has been sitting for over 4 years... Post by 2nd savage on 03/13/09 at 20:33:17 I would just get it running then inspect all the functions of every part of the bike. Then get the things you need from the most important to the least so it won't cost you alot all at once. |
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Title: Re: Savage has been sitting for over 4 years... Post by Max_Morley on 03/13/09 at 21:47:50 I'd get one of those cable lubing devices and an aerosol can of cable lube at the cycle shop and lube the cables before just replacing them. I do it every spring as part of seasonal stuff and it really smooths them out. Max |
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Title: Re: Savage has been sitting for over 4 years... Post by SV og LS on 03/13/09 at 23:10:50 466A7354466479676E720B0 wrote:
I use disposable 1ml syringe and engine oil. 15 or 20 drops down the cable, cheap clean and effective. I've never had a snapped clutch or throttle cable. |
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Title: Re: Savage has been sitting for over 4 years... Post by Oldfeller on 03/14/09 at 05:37:01 For those who want to lube a cable on the cheap, do it the Savage Greg way. Verified as a "cheap and good method" by the Yoda Institute, BTW. Baggie, poke cable thru baggie at the corner. Rubber band wrapped over corner edge of baggie (band stretched tight). Baggie is now one with the outside jacket of the cable. Put 1/2 cup of heavy lube oil into baggie. Seal baggie good. Suspend cable and baggie vertically with a catch pan underneath. Oil migrates from baggie through cable to drip pan, removing trash and junk as the bulk of it moves through the cable. Full saturation of heavy oil remains inside cable jacket and penetrates the moving cable completely too. Is slow, takes a day or so to work. Works well using the HEAVIEST GEAR OILS you have around your garage so the lubrication results stick around for years and years and years. Does not require replacement of cables with expensive new cables. A cagey old fart can do this to a cable without even removing it from the natural run it takes down the handlebars and frame of the bike. I have done this trick to two bikes by only taking the cable end loose at the top and putting tin foil under the lower end making a "funnel tunnel" to carry the drip oil over the side of the engine down to the oil drain catch pan. Life doesn't have to be hard or expensive unless you just WANT to do it that way. Up to you though. Us old farts have patience enough for stuff like this. Young people tend to bust stuff when they try out our old fart tricks -- "too much foolish energy they have" sez Master Yoda. <grin> Oldfeller |
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Title: Re: Savage has been sitting for over 4 years... Post by prechermike on 03/16/09 at 03:52:44 4E6D6567646D6D6473010 wrote:
That was a good idea. I did it yesterday, even left the cables on the bike. I just need to hook them back up today, but since it is supposed to rain today and tomorrow, I have plenty of time. Thanks |
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Title: Re: Savage has been sitting for over 4 years... Post by srinath on 03/16/09 at 07:12:21 Throttle and clutch cables were fine in the one I ressurrected after 15 years of sitting. Mine had a stuck fron master cyl, which ironically came loose with a 2 hour wiggling and spraying routine and is making and retaining pressure. I may have to do tires, but I have deep tread and hold air. I may ride it till I get to the first flat. Dry rot cracks are in a way over rated for a bike this anaemic and this poor handling. Yes I wont slap it on a race bike and run the dragon but lets face it its a savage. Carbs and tank were all I am doing other than prettying up the rusty crap. The bike was around a lot of pesticide I guess, it left the paint pretty intact, but ruined all the chrome. Yea mine also had a shot starter clutch and gears. Had to swap that. Ohhh Joy. Cool. Srinath. |
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