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Title: just got my wife a 2005 s40 for her b-day! (pics) Post by mrplease on 02/26/09 at 21:15:46 well i just bought my wife her first bike for her b-day today. (its sitting in my cousins garage until her b-day on the 14th) after months of looking and research i had it narrowed down to either a s40 or a savage. the most important decision was on the price & condition. (other contenders were gz250, rebel, nighthawk, virago, early 70's honda cb350, & some 60's & 70's triumphs) well today i found a practically new black s40 with 1045 miles for $2800 at a local dealership about 50 miles from my house. well i just had to snatch it up. the cool thing about the story is i had a chance to drive it home 50 miles. we'll being a sports bike dude (i've had ducati's for the last 10 years. i currently have a 2009 monster) i haven't ridden a cruiser type bike since i rode my days old virago 12 years ago. anyway the s40 was such a blast to drive!! i for sure see me self borrowing her bike from time to time. i know if i made that ride on my monster i'd of been walking a little funny for an hour. well even though these aren't my kind of bikes, i gotta admit its a VERY cool bike! i'm real glad i got it. can't wait to give it to her. march 14th!! i'll let you guys know what she thinks when she get it! oh lastly, does anyone have any recommendations on some good pipes? i'd like it to be a little louder with a nice low tone. |
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Title: Re: just got my wife a 2005 s40 for her b-day! Post by diamond jim on 02/26/09 at 21:30:14 Congrats for her and you. My story is very similar to yours. I didn't give the S40 much respect when I rode it home for the wife. Then, the more I rode it, the more I loved it. Now it's all mine! |
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Title: Re: just got my wife a 2005 s40 for her b-day! Post by SimonTuffGuy on 02/27/09 at 05:32:33 Congrats on the purchase! That's a great buy! :) |
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Title: Re: just got my wife a 2005 s40 for her b-day! Post by Charon on 02/27/09 at 06:03:22 Leave the factory pipe on it unless SHE says she wants something different. Let her make the decision for herself. SHE might like the quiet. |
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Title: Re: just got my wife a 2005 s40 for her b-day! Post by Gamma742 on 02/27/09 at 07:50:19 Congrats. You're gonna love it. She'll ride it too ;) |
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Title: Re: just got my wife a 2005 s40 for her b-day! Post by mrplease on 02/27/09 at 08:34:19 624940534E4F210 wrote:
yeah your right! but i know she does like it a little louder than it sounds right now. whenever a motorcycle goes by that she likes the way it sounds, she always points it out... |
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Title: Re: just got my wife a 2005 s40 for her b-day! Post by T Mack 1 on 02/27/09 at 09:48:43 2837352920243620450 wrote:
yeah your right! but i know she does like it a little louder than it sounds right now. whenever a motorcycle goes by that she likes the way it sounds, she always points it out...[/quote] Yep agree, Get her comfy on the bike first. Then ... do the carb mod which will give more response (not always a good thing when getting use to a bike unless she's a good rider). After that the Exhaust & carb again. |
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Title: Re: just got my wife a 2005 s40 for her b-day! Post by mrplease on 02/27/09 at 15:57:52 i went to my cousins house and took it out of his garage to snap some pics of it. (i'm hiding it there until her birthday) http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh68/mrpleaseplease/s40/1.jpg http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh68/mrpleaseplease/s40/2.jpg http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh68/mrpleaseplease/s40/3.jpg http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh68/mrpleaseplease/s40/4.jpg |
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Title: Re: just got my wife a 2005 s40 for her b-day! (pi Post by BigSingle on 02/27/09 at 17:27:03 WOW thats clean! Great pickup! I would be stealn from the wife too... ;D |
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Title: Re: just got my wife a 2005 s40 for her b-day! (pi Post by SimonTuffGuy on 02/27/09 at 18:52:20 Very clean! All of those stickers (gas tank, tire pressure warning, etc) will all come off with the use of a hair dryer and a little time. |
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Title: Re: just got my wife a 2005 s40 for her b-day! (pi Post by Jay on 02/27/09 at 20:34:40 Have the cops been to your door? Coz you stole that bike! That's a great deal for that price, and from a stealership no less. You're, ahem I mean your wife's gonna love it! |
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Title: Re: just got my wife a 2005 s40 for her b-day! (pi Post by mrplease on 03/03/09 at 12:42:56 yeah i really think i got a great deal... well i couldn't help it, i ordered a jardine slash cut exhaust for it. they had a savage with that exhaust installed on it, and it sounded great... |
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Title: Re: just got my wife a 2005 s40 for her b-day! (pi Post by mrplease on 03/03/09 at 19:22:46 oh, does anyone here have a jardine exhaust on their savage/s40? just curious if anyone has had any experience with one... |
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Title: Re: just got my wife a 2005 s40 for her b-day! (pi Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/03/09 at 22:40:21 Ive only heard they were wayyy loud. |
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Title: Re: just got my wife a 2005 s40 for her b-day! (pi Post by Charon on 03/04/09 at 06:49:33 When I started idly casting about for a Savage, I was told of a used one. I went to look at it, with both the asking price and the book price in mind. When I saw it, it had a Jardine pipe on it. It was incredibly loud, even idling. I immediately reduced my mental offer by about $500, figuring that's the cost of a factory pipe to get it tolerable. The bike had enough other problems that I just thanked its owner for his time and walked away. Unlike some, I want to ride, not wrench. |
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Title: Re: just got my wife a 2005 s40 for her b-day! (pi Post by mrplease on 03/04/09 at 08:25:52 well the one i heard was not very loud. just real throaty. and i will keep the stock exhaust in case we want to put it back on... |
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Title: Re: just got my wife a 2005 s40 for her b-day! (pi Post by mrplease on 03/11/09 at 07:47:55 well i got the jardine exhaust installed on the bike yesterday. i rode it about 20 miles and man, it sounds much better! i will be giving the bike to my wife on her b-day which this saturday. so we will see how she like it! i'll post some pics of the bike with the exhaust soon. and like i said i will keep the factory exhaust just in case she wants to put it back on. the suzuki dealership i ordered it from assured me that this exhaust was 100% street legal. they said that jardine can't sell it as a street legal exhaust if it wasn't. but hey thats just what they said, and i always take what a dealership says with a grain of salt. but you know, we'll see. i know my bike is twice as loud and i've never had any problems... |
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Title: Re: just got my wife a 2005 s40 for her b-day! (pi Post by rodeoman on 03/11/09 at 08:32:09 i got the jardine and I also have the carb rejetted w/ a hiflo air filter...it is LOUD!!!! some of my frinds that ride touring bikes make me ride in the back!!LOL But I love it it sounds wey better than stock and seems to be a little quicker. also mine dose not have a bafle at all. |
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Title: Re: just got my wife a 2005 s40 for her b-day! (pi Post by Charon on 03/11/09 at 09:49:41 The dealership is lying through its teeth. If an exhaust is ANY louder than stock it is not legal under Federal laws. Period. The law won't be enforced locally - probably - but the exhaust is still illegal. I saw an item the other day pointing out that state and local governments are having problems with revenue. That item mentioned that stepped-up traffic enforcement, including noise regulations, might be a solution. And I'd bet every state has some sort of regulation prohibiting "excess noise." Even more interesting, there was comment that the enforcement people were asking offending riders where the illegal exhausts had been installed. Then they were going after the dealers or mechanics who had done it, and hitting them with much larger fines. |
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Title: Re: just got my wife a 2005 s40 for her b-day! (pi Post by verslagen1 on 03/11/09 at 11:16:25 Loud exhausts are covered under the Inattentive driver abatement program AB637AC1U3, section OU812. ;D |
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Title: Re: just got my wife a 2005 s40 for her b-day! (pi Post by mrplease on 03/11/09 at 12:48:12 what does that mean? 22312627383533313A65540 wrote:
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Title: Re: just got my wife a 2005 s40 for her b-day! (pi Post by mrplease on 03/11/09 at 12:58:30 i was reading some state by state motorcycle laws... what you are saying is true IN CERTAIN STATES. like oklahoma for example. it says it is illegal to install a muffler or exhaust that is louder than what was installed from the factory. now there are other states that measures the sound level. and it can't be louder than a certain sound level measurement. which means yes you can get your muffler louder, just not above the specific states sound requirement... 5D767F6C71701E0 wrote:
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Title: Re: just got my wife a 2005 s40 for her b-day! (pi Post by Charon on 03/11/09 at 13:53:08 I made only the most casual of references to state and local laws. There are fifty states, lots more counties, and untold cities and villages. Any of them may make their own laws. But the Federal regulation still says if it is louder than stock, even if it otherwise would pass under the decibel requirement, it is illegal. States and cities don't usually enforce the Federal rules, because they can't collect the fines. But some localities are enacting their own ordinances echoing the Federal rules, and then enforcing them. Allegedly, some have gone as far as impounding bikes with loud exhausts, not just writing fix-it tickets. Every loud pipe out there causes ill will for every motorcyclist, not just the loud guys. |
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Title: Re: just got my wife a 2005 s40 for her b-day! (pi Post by mrplease on 03/11/09 at 14:09:26 well thats a whole other subject right there. currently there are 22 states trying to pass a bill to get their own sovereignity which will get the federal law out of their state and let the states decide their own laws. just last week oklahoma was the first state to get it passed thru congress. they still have to go thru senate now. but there are more and more states doing this. point is, the state law enforcement will not enforce a federal law especially as minor as this over their own state law. so if its legal in your state you will be fine! |
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Title: Re: just got my wife a 2005 s40 for her b-day! (pi Post by T Mack 1 on 03/11/09 at 14:26:16 Hmmmm I'm wondering what decibel level our stock bike really is. :-? My friend has a Stock Honda Spirit 750 and it's louder than the stock LS650 ....... Or in other words, there is a Fed sound limit and I'm wondering if Suzuki over engineered it for a considerable margin . Does anyone have a stock bike and a sound decibel meter (that is in calibration)???? |
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Title: Re: just got my wife a 2005 s40 for her b-day! (pi Post by rodeoman on 03/11/09 at 18:42:18 well right or wrong I've had cops (in there cruzers) pull up next to me and tell me how nice they thought my bike sounded, although thay did have to yell over the sound of the jardine... botom line if you and your wife dig it and its worth the risk then FU** the law, there are to many ppl on here trying to sound smarter than they realy are, you've probibly been on two wheels long enuf to know to"proform mods at own risk" and there are plenty of ppl doing much worse things than puting on a loud pipe!! like I say, if you and your wife dig it and you have thought about the risk then do it if your woried about the law then go back to stock...it's up to you, I know the choice that I made and I'm happy with it!!! ;) |
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Title: Re: just got my wife a 2005 s40 for her b-day! (pi Post by mrplease on 03/11/09 at 19:24:45 yeah cool! thats basically how i figure it. hopefully she likes the sound of the jardine. and i will have the stock exhaust just in case we will need it. but if she doesn't like the jardine then someone here will get a good deal on a practically new exhaust that sounds great! 38252E2F25272B244A0 wrote:
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Title: Re: just got my wife a 2005 s40 for her b-day! (pi Post by Savage Eddie on 03/11/09 at 21:07:58 I'm down for that Jardine, the bottom of mine is all rust pitted and i need a new one STAT! (keep me posted) i love the sound of mine and would defiantly recommend it... |
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Title: Re: just got my wife a 2005 s40 for her b-day! (pi Post by T Mack 1 on 03/14/09 at 05:34:02 3F20223E37332137520 wrote:
So..... we are waiting with baited breath.... did she like it???????? T Mack |
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Title: Re: just got my wife a 2005 s40 for her b-day! (pi Post by doc5446 on 03/14/09 at 07:12:09 Loud pipes save lives! FTP! |
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Title: Re: just got my wife a 2005 s40 for her b-day! (pi Post by Charon on 03/14/09 at 08:32:18 "Loud pipes save lives" Prove it. Cite a study. If that statement is true, then every vehicle should have loud pipes. Including trucks, buses, locomotives, automobiles, and motorcycles. What loud pipes really do is show that you care nothing for the rest of society - those forced involuntarily to listen to your noise. |
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Title: Re: just got my wife a 2005 s40 for her b-day! (pi Post by mrplease on 03/14/09 at 09:12:55 i do agree with the "louder pipes are safer" you can't put cars and trucks in this argument that they should be louder, because they are already "safer"! but the fact is that my bike is loud and i know people hear me! even if they can't see me they can hear me, which mean there is a chance that since they HEAR a motorcycle around they just might take an extra look before they change lanes. so in fact if it gives me even a 1% better chance of getting killed i'm gonna do it and i could give a fu** if that annoys someone!!!!!! 634841524F4E200 wrote:
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Title: Re: just got my wife a 2005 s40 for her b-day! (pi Post by vtail on 03/14/09 at 17:49:38 With that new pipe, don't forget to rejet and do the needle-spacer mod. Otherwise you'll be running way too lean and it will blue that pretty header pipe. My header pipe still looks new with absolutely no blue-ing after 10 thousand miles. Have fun ;D |
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Title: Re: just got my wife a 2005 s40 for her b-day! (pi Post by srinath on 03/14/09 at 17:58:28 Anecdotally I've only been hit by a car 1 time and that was with a pretty loud pipe. Now, I've crashed many times, and never with a cruiser. Always sportbikes. Cruisers are safer, except if you consider that I ride slower on the cruiser than the sportbikes. Factor that in and the hit by a car analogy makes much more sense. In my accident, she checked and started to change lanes when it was clean and, I was there when the monstrous car took its 3 1/2 eons to swicth lanes and ended up getting hit cos I can travel much much more distance than she checked in the time he took to switch lanes. Cruisers take a lot longer to lowside or whatever, you can crunch your foot down and get your self out sometimes. Hurts your leg, like MOFO though. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: just got my wife a 2005 s40 for her b-day! (pi Post by mrplease on 03/14/09 at 22:45:11 ok, thanks! but how do i rejet & what is the needle-spacer mod? 3032272F2A460 wrote:
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Title: Re: just got my wife a 2005 s40 for her b-day! (pi Post by mrplease on 03/14/09 at 23:14:05 well she absolutely loved the bike! and she even loved the sound. she said it sounded much better than the stock one we were looking at the dealership. and she said she liked how it sounded like a harley. anyway, we rode it to the high school by our house so she could get a feel for it in the parking lot. it had been about three months since she took her motorcycle course and she wanted to get comfortable with the bike. anyway, she really really likes the bike. said it had much more power than the bike she rode at the motorcycle course (it was a 125) http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh68/mrpleaseplease/s40/7a76aff4.jpg http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh68/mrpleaseplease/s40/1-1.jpg http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh68/mrpleaseplease/s40/2-1.jpg http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh68/mrpleaseplease/s40/3-1.jpg http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh68/mrpleaseplease/s40/4-1.jpg |
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Title: Re: just got my wife a 2005 s40 for her b-day! (pi Post by verslagen1 on 03/14/09 at 23:53:10 congrats! 1. tell her the exhaust will get hot enough to burn holes in her pants if it rest against the pipe. 2. teach her how to pick up the bike. 3. Make sure she knows what to do in a low side so it don't become a high side. 4. at least get her high top tenni's |
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Title: Re: just got my wife a 2005 s40 for her b-day! (pi Post by Savage40 on 03/14/09 at 23:59:57 293A2D2C333E383A316E5F0 wrote:
Maybe I'm just ignorant, but what's meant by "low side" and "high side"? Maybe something I know by different terms? Second the shoe comment, the stouter the better. And killer helmet! 8-) |
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Title: Re: just got my wife a 2005 s40 for her b-day! (pi Post by verslagen1 on 03/15/09 at 00:09:26 ok, hope I get this right as the hind brain knows better. low side, loosing traction in the rear wheel so it slides causing the seat to loose altitude. Can be caused by locking the rear wheel or sand. high side, what happens if the rear wheel suddenly finds traction before the seat meets pavement. The sudden rise of the seat usually bucks the occupant over the handlebars. |
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Title: Re: just got my wife a 2005 s40 for her b-day! (pi Post by Savage40 on 03/15/09 at 00:14:32 372433322D2026242F70410 wrote:
Ah, thanks, makes perfect sense! Had a touch of the low side the other day. Weather was nice, hit the back roads, which tend to have fine loose gravel in places from patch jobs, some on the corners. Which is why it pays to go easy into the corners, until you know EXACTLY what the surface is like. Could feel the rear slip a little, but wasn't too freaky :o. |
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Title: Re: just got my wife a 2005 s40 for her b-day! (pi Post by T Mack 1 on 03/15/09 at 19:08:52 She liked it Yea...... [smiley=vrolijk_26.gif] Now you need to get her a rack or saddle bags so she when she needs to run an errand, she will have an excuse to ride..... |
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Title: Re: just got my wife a 2005 s40 for her b-day! (pi Post by mrplease on 03/16/09 at 21:44:31 can someone please tell me what it means to rejet & do the needle-spacer mod? i tried to pm vtail but i haven't gotten a response yet... 2123363E3B570 wrote:
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Title: Re: just got my wife a 2005 s40 for her b-day! (pi Post by verslagen1 on 03/16/09 at 22:22:54 We rejet to correct the epa mandated lean run carb. This by itself can cause the backfire issue so many complain of. It will also cause the header to turn gold then blue due to overheating. 1st pull your sparkplug and compare http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1222357450/1#1 next remove the brass plug and adjust your idle mixture http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1221818822 This usually fixes most people but you've also changed you exhaust and that may affect the adjustment of the main jet. I've got a simple test for that. Find yourself a good long grade, one that you can go up WOT (wide open throttle) and get a steady speed with at wot. Now back off the throttle alittle bit, does it seem to pick up a little? If it does, you need the next size up. The white spacer or needle spacer mod is little more difficult to determine need. At least I think so cause I don't need. Problems like surging while cruising along or lack of get up and go may be a reason to mess with it. You want to tackle these mods one at a time. Get a good feel for whats wrong then you know what you're looking for. and read the carb tuning posts and how-to's while you're waiting. |
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Title: Re: just got my wife a 2005 s40 for her b-day! (pi Post by mrplease on 03/17/09 at 10:26:51 ok,i will look at the spark plug and i will remove the brass plug and adjust my idle mixture. but what is the rejet vtail was talking about? |
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Title: Re: just got my wife a 2005 s40 for her b-day! (pi Post by matt_savage on 03/17/09 at 10:42:30 You have a lot to read up about carbs to fully understand this 're-jet' concept. I will try and paraphrase it for you: Carbs control the air/fuel mixture going into the engine. When you change either the air filter or exhaust you need to change the air/fuel mixture to match the new air filter or exhaust combo. The way you do this is replace the stock jets in the carb. There is a pilot jet, a needle jet and a main jet. The pilot jet as well as the brass screw on the right side of the carb controls the idle and 1/4 of the low end throttle air/fuel mix. The needle jet (the white spacer in the slide area of the carb) control the mid range air/fuel mix and the main jet controls the upper realm of the throttle air/fuel mix. The stock jets make the bike run pretty lean from the factory on purpose. Changing the pilot and main jet to bigger jets along with making the white spacer smaller usually fixes these air/fuel problems when an air filter that allows more air is added or an exhaust that allows more flow is added. Hope this helps and I'm sure I missed something, but this is the basics. -Matt |
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Title: Re: just got my wife a 2005 s40 for her b-day! (pi Post by verslagen1 on 03/17/09 at 11:24:17 455A58444D495B4D280 wrote:
Rejetting referrs to the whole process of checking the fuel/air mixture thru the affected ranges. I think the most accurate way to check it is with an exhaust analyzer on a dynomometer. |
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