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Message started by Simon on 02/22/09 at 20:42:43

Title: oh sh1t oh sh1t what did I do????
Post by Simon on 02/22/09 at 20:42:43

ok first off i know im an idiot, and now that that was said heres the story. I was pulling the head to replace my leaking plug cap, and in my rush missed one bolt, which for the record was a little hidden. Ok so i missed a bolt and asked my brother for help which I told him that I thought I had all of the bolts out, now he was in a hurry b/c it was his lunch break from work so he didnt look over everything to well and he also came to the conclusion that all of the bolts were out. So we were trying to get the head off with 1 bolt in and finally he looked and the chrome bolt on the side os the engine which he took out. Thats my problem, he took it out all of the way and then relised it held something in so he put it back.. Needless to say we soon relised I forgot a bolt and the head came off without a problem, but what my question is, do I need to tear into the motor b/c of him removing this bolt, did that drop something in the motor???
heres a pic of the bolt im talking about
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p175/nomic61/untitled0.jpg

Title: Re: oh sh1t oh sh1t what did I do????
Post by verslagen1 on 02/22/09 at 21:08:24

I see you got manual... lol... did you read it?

Take the clutch cover off, grab hold of the adjuster guide, push it up a little bit, wiggle generously, jamb the bolt back in when you see holes line up.

That's the pivot bolt for the rear chain guide. That guide can't go very far unless you pull real hard twist turn pull again. And maybe take the chain out too. oh and since you're the newb extrodinaire, put some rags down in the bottom holes to avoid dropping parts into the oil sump. They're very hard to find in there. Very little light.

BTW: have you changed the air in your tires lately? It's recommended for the best gas mileage.

Title: Re: oh sh1t oh sh1t what did I do????
Post by Dj12midnit on 02/22/09 at 22:46:51

Now why didnt someone tell me about that I have 8000 and have never changed the air in the tires.

Title: Re: oh sh1t oh sh1t what did I do????
Post by Jay on 02/22/09 at 22:54:00

Oh yes. Needs to be changed weekly. For best results, remove valve core and roll the bike around a bit, to make sure all of the old air is out of the tires. Then replace core and reinflate to proper PSI. Just be careful. It really pisses 'em off at the service station when they think you're just rollin in for a top off, and you go through that whole procedure.
:D
Oh, and don't forget to rotate your tires!

Title: Re: oh sh1t oh sh1t what did I do????
Post by Gary On A Savage on 02/22/09 at 23:01:36

474912114E4A474D4A57230 wrote:

Now why didnt someone tell me about that I have 8000 and have never changed the air in the tires.

You obviously haven't read the owners manual have you. It's right there in the specs on page...ummm...26 I think. "Manufacturer recommend tire air change is 3000 miles or 6 months, whichever is sooner. Air is to be drained COMPLETELY and refilled with fresh, oxygen rich air. Synthetic air is not recommended and may void the warranty."

Personally, I use synthetic air anyway, and I don't change my air unless I get a flat. I've found you get more longevity from synthetic air and the manufacturer is just trying to force you to spend money on their "recommended" brand of air.

Title: Re: oh sh1t oh sh1t what did I do????
Post by WoodLark on 02/23/09 at 05:53:29

While you're at it, one very effective mod is to replace that tire air with Helium. Your gas mileage should increase dramatically since it takes less energy to move a lighter bike! Hydrogen would be even better, but may have unwanted side effects (loud BOOMing noises). ::)

Title: Re: oh sh1t oh sh1t what did I do????
Post by diamond jim on 02/23/09 at 06:44:54

I'm rolling with 40% OEM air and 60% aftermarket air. It seems like a good mix. I might try 30/70 next month. If I don't like it I'll order some OEM air and take it back to 40/60. I'll ebay any left over OEM air if anyone is interested.

Title: Re: oh sh1t oh sh1t what did I do????
Post by Savage_Amusement on 02/23/09 at 06:59:15

Man you guys are nuts. This is how I roll!!! Takes a lot of work to get everything just right, but so worth it in the end.

Nitrogen (N2) 78.084%

Oxygen (O2) 20.946%

Argon (Ar) 0.934%

Carbon dioxide (CO2) 0.0383 %

Neon (Ne) 0.001818 %

Helium (He) 0.000524 %

Methane (CH4) 0.0001745 %

Krypton (Kr) 0.000114%

Hydrogen (H2) 0.000055 %

Title: Re: oh sh1t oh sh1t what did I do????
Post by Starlifter on 02/23/09 at 09:13:18

I tap into the hot air on this board. It spins those tires like mad.

Title: Re: oh sh1t oh sh1t what did I do????
Post by diamond jim on 02/23/09 at 09:23:48

062A372B203736312A372076757575450 wrote:

I like that custom performance air mix. I might try it. I especially like that several of those gases you have available at any time should you need it whereas I have to buy and properly store mine. For instance, the carbon dioxide can be provided via your lungs and you can add it as necessary by simply putting your lips on the valve stem and blowing. Same with the methane. Only you carry it in your... ah, well... um... and you get the methane in the tire by... well... you gotta hold the valve stem firmly and...uh... well... you'll figure it out. Just takes a little practice and some serious flexibility I guess. May I suggest you add the carbon dioxide before the methane though.

You know, on second thought, I think I'll just stick with my air mix.

Title: Re: oh sh1t oh sh1t what did I do????
Post by Simon on 02/23/09 at 11:52:35

lol i guess i do deserve all of that ball busting, but thanx guys, i do have a manual but its only in pdf and it was a pain to find the exact spot with the info i needed so i thought this would be eaier. Thanks again

Title: Re: oh sh1t oh sh1t what did I do????
Post by verslagen1 on 02/23/09 at 12:07:12

Thanks for being the but of a joke that's becoming more assinine by the moment. Really lifted my spirits, thanks all for your participation.

SL, you got enough hot air to supply the entire board, I don't know why you'd be siphoning any off from here.

Title: Re: oh sh1t oh sh1t what did I do????
Post by diamond jim on 02/23/09 at 12:12:15

You Rock, Simon. Glad you've got a great sense of humor.

It's verslagen's fault, though. He started it! ;D

Title: Re: oh sh1t oh sh1t what did I do????
Post by Gary On A Savage on 02/23/09 at 14:24:33

152F2B2928460 wrote:

Glad you enjoyed your "official" welcome to the board. You passed your initiation (you didn't get offended and leave). Just remember, there's no stupid question...well.. ok... maybe there is.... but we'll DEFINITELY let you know if it is! ;)

Hope you got everything back together.

Title: Re: oh sh1t oh sh1t what did I do????
Post by LANCER on 02/23/09 at 14:31:44

I like the liquid nitrogen myself; works as an air conditioner in the summer, cools down the adult beverages when stopped for the day, and even if you loose some then part of the remainder will evaporate into a gas and fill the void. :D

Title: Re: oh sh1t oh sh1t what did I do????
Post by Justinmkantor on 02/23/09 at 14:50:11

I hear the best air comes from reputable SCUBA dive shops. get it changed there and save the reciept as it may come in handy later.

Title: Re: oh sh1t oh sh1t what did I do????
Post by WoodLark on 02/23/09 at 15:40:31

6F626D6066713134030 wrote:

Makes for an awfully stiff ride though!

Title: Re: oh sh1t oh sh1t what did I do????
Post by Picasso736 on 02/23/09 at 18:15:16

I've been running on Methane for years.

Title: Re: oh sh1t oh sh1t what did I do????
Post by mpescatori on 02/24/09 at 00:06:17

7C454F4D5F5F431B1F1A2C0 wrote:

I've been running on Methane for years.

Imported or local product ? ;D

Title: Re: oh sh1t oh sh1t what did I do????
Post by PhilM on 02/24/09 at 00:12:18

I've been using water in my tyres for the last couple of years instead of gases. You can fill up anywhere with a handy hose. Gives a bit of a "squelchy" feel, but thats how I roll.

Title: Re: oh sh1t oh sh1t what did I do????
Post by verslagen1 on 02/24/09 at 07:24:05

You guys in the UK always were a bit damp. ;D

Title: Re: oh sh1t oh sh1t what did I do????
Post by Rogue_Cheddar on 02/24/09 at 10:11:46

7F712A2976727F75726F1B0 wrote:

Now why didnt someone tell me about that I have 8000 and have never changed the air in the tires.

Reminds me of when I was young and dumb and my boss sent me to the Laundry Room at a the hospital for a bucket of blue steam. :-[

Title: Re: oh sh1t oh sh1t what did I do????
Post by Pabst 2006 on 02/24/09 at 14:12:08

or how about the kid in my high school shop class who went to go get the "sandpaper sharpener". He wondered why he never found it.

Title: Re: oh sh1t oh sh1t what did I do????
Post by Gary On A Savage on 02/24/09 at 20:41:51

332E3B2D3D3F2A312C375E0 wrote:

[quote author=7C454F4D5F5F431B1F1A2C0 link=1235364163/15#17 date=1235441716]I've been running on Methane for years.

Imported or local product ? ;D[/quote]

Haven't you heard? US is the largest producer of Methane in the world. None of that imported stuff in the fancy bottle for a "real american" male! ;)