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Message started by danroot on 02/05/09 at 18:19:08

Title: lost key
Post by danroot on 02/05/09 at 18:19:08

ok, so i lost my only ignition key, what do i do now?

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Post by bill67 on 02/05/09 at 18:22:34

punt

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Post by smokin_blue on 02/05/09 at 18:29:30

If you have the original key number you take it into the closest Suzuki dealer and get a new one cut.

Title: Re: lost key
Post by danroot on 02/05/09 at 18:56:30

no original key number.

Title: Re: lost key
Post by danroot on 02/05/09 at 19:16:46

will an ignition switch set from an 08 s40 fit onto an 86 savage?

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Post by diamond jim on 02/05/09 at 19:17:42

Dan, here's a visual representation of your situation:

http://www.thebscorner.com/archives/052708_oh_crap.jpg

Title: Re: lost key
Post by danroot on 02/05/09 at 19:22:51

yeah, i already called a local mechanic who said it would cost me 600 dollars to replace the ignition switch. ::) ;D

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Post by danroot on 02/05/09 at 19:23:43

could i bypass the ignition switch somehow? its parked in a zone that is permit only. no friendly parking close to here.

Title: Re: lost key
Post by diamond jim on 02/05/09 at 19:52:09

Don't know if this will work for a S40/Savage but for an Intruder I seem to recall that connecting the red and orange wires will bypass the key. Maybe all Suzuki models have standardized red and orange wires.

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Post by Educatedredneck on 02/05/09 at 22:17:58

Danroot, Screw that mechanic. On page 809 of the Dennis Kirk Fat Book, there are at least 4 switches that I see could work with a little electrical help. All priced under $60.00.

Or, get the bike home, remove the switch, take said switch to a locksmith, and have them remove the cylinder and re-key it.

Cheaper to buy a new switch from Dennis Kirk.

Granted, they are for Harleys, but who cares, half the stuff people make for Harleys fit our bikes anyway. :D

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Post by verslagen1 on 02/05/09 at 23:36:52

62676874696972060 wrote:

yeah, i already called a local mechanic who said it would cost me 600 dollars to replace the ignition switch. ::) ;D

Dan I hope your mechanic is pretty!

Hell I could replace your ig switch for $600 !
Send me a plane ticket most likely cost $400, and I'll bring the extra I have for a $100 only cause I got to get a key.

But never mind that. Throw a rug on the floor in front of the ig switch. Get down on your knee and do a little prayin'. While you're down there, look on the under side of the ig switch for a black strip with some white letterin'. Now sometimes that letterin' gets faded and you might need to take the bolt loose and look at it real close but it's there. Take the numbers to anyone who can do bike keys.

Now how come all you smart @$$es don't know this? And this ain't the 1st time this has come up? Why ain't you payin' attention? :o

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Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/06/09 at 00:33:00

We were all sandbagging so YOU could be the Hero, But did you appreciate that we held back? NOOO, you got all Uppity about it. Next time, Im just spouting out the answer as soon as I have it..Waht? No Raspberry emoticon? I NEED that one.

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Post by kennycreed on 02/06/09 at 00:35:57

there is one on the german ebay suzuki ls 650 savage markenspezifish site Item number: 180325949485, it is at one euro just now but they usually go for between 15--25 euros, if all else fails its worth an email to the seller, the only problen is your fuel tank lock, but it isn't a hi tec lock if you shuggle about with some different keys (small padlock ones) you will get one to open it.
If you want,, go into,,, ebay eu. then. auto motorradteile..you will then see,, ALLEN KATEGORIEN,, put in,,, Suzuki LS 650,,and hit FINDEN,, the whole lot should come up about 700 hundred items,, It is good thinking to get a couple of blanks and get spares cut for the LS as where the ign switch is, the key sometimes works its way out with the vibes if the switch is worn,,cheers

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Post by danroot on 02/06/09 at 00:39:47

thanks for the help. i just hope it dont get towed before i can get a new key.

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Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/06/09 at 00:48:16

I wired a tiny starter button on the decomp timer under the seat./ It used to do strange things, shut off, no crank, it fixed itself I guess.
But, all you gotta do is get fire to the ignition & hit the starter. Do whatever, but dont let it get towed. Grab a diagrahm & ohm meter & go get that thing home.

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Post by kennycreed on 02/06/09 at 00:48:49

If you try bypassing it you will have to break the insulating on the back of the ign switch and you will need a pile of fuses because the fuses will keep blowing until you get it right, it is a very final solution that I personally would be very loathe to try

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Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/06/09 at 00:52:11

Well, I woulda thought it would be pretty straight forward. But, I havent tried, so, if someone else knows, the Il; shaddupp..

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Post by kennycreed on 02/06/09 at 01:24:43

An after thought after checking it out. To save breaking the insulation on the back of the ign switch use needles to pierce the insulation on the wires at the back of the switch :-/

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Post by seviersavage on 02/06/09 at 03:09:07

When I lost my ingnition key I took the ignition off and took it to a locksmith who made me a new one in about 30 minutes and cost me 35.00 dollars, easy peasy.
Seviersavage

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Post by SimonTuffGuy on 02/06/09 at 05:57:09

There was a key set on EBay a few days ago for $50... Included everything you'd need to re-key the bike.

Besides that... Take your VIN # to the dealer and maybe the can cut one off of that. I've done that with my cars in the past.

Title: Re: lost key
Post by Charon on 02/06/09 at 07:05:11

You have already figured out your first mistake - not having a duplicate made when you had the chance.

Find a friend with a pickup or a trailer. Take the bike to your favorite locksmith or to a more friendly dealership and have a key made. Then have another made, so you'll have a spare.

I think it was poor design on Suzuki's part, but the fork lock uses a different key than the ignition. When I bought my bike the dealership was unable to locate the fork lock keys. They said they couldn't cut a new key from the numbers, so they just replaced the whole lock and keys under warranty.

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Post by smokin_blue on 02/06/09 at 18:55:34

If you want to try hotwiring your bike to get it home try this. Find the green connector about 1 foot from the igintion switch. I believe it is under the seat if I remember correctly (my bike is completely torn down) Disconnect it and focus on the connector attached to the wiring harness not the end on the switch. Now the Red wire with the black tracer is the hot wire coming from the fuse box and battery. It is live all the time. Jump from that to the orange wire. On suzukis the orange is always switched hot (meaning it is made hot by the switch). This should give you power to all systems to start and run the bike. Note you will not have power to the tail light It is powered by a brown wire which again is switched auxilaryt on a suzuki. That is powered (if you feel the need) by jumping from the gray wire to the brown wire. The gray goes live when the orange does.

NOW NOTE ALL THE WIRES DISCUSSED ARE NOW HOT AND YOUR FRAME IS GROUND. YOU MUST USE INSULATED WIRES OR KEEP THEM AWAY FROM ANY FRAME OR ENGINE SURFACE OR YOU RISK A DIRECT SHORT THAT WILL MOST LIKELY BLOW A FUSE AND YOU WILL BE DEAD IN THE WATER AGAIN.

If you have any questions on this feel free to consult your wiring diagram in your manual. you will find the ignition switch is pretty basic on suzukis and they haven't changed in years. I actually put an ignition switch from a 1976 GT250 on my GSX-R1100 streetfighter due to size constraints in the custom build and it works great.

Basically the on position ties the red/black to the orange and the gray to the brown. The park position ties the red to the brown. This all there is to the switches.

good luck!

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Post by kennycreed on 02/06/09 at 23:33:13

EXCELLENT! EXCELENT!! bit of info, COULD IT BE SAVED IN THE TEC. SECTION???, it would be worth practicing this and carrying a couple of short bits of wire if you'r on a long haul just to be on the safe side