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Message started by desantam on 01/05/09 at 11:07:22

Title: flasher
Post by desantam on 01/05/09 at 11:07:22

where is the flasher located at on a 86 savage? i cant get the turn signals to work, i need to replace this so they can work. i have replaced the turn signal relayand that didnt help.

thanks guys

Title: Re: flasher
Post by verslagen1 on 01/05/09 at 11:23:11

Look under the tank, right next to a big round solenoid.

Title: Re: flasher
Post by desantam on 01/05/09 at 11:40:43

ok cool thanks

Title: Re: flasher
Post by T Mack 1 on 01/05/09 at 11:59:30

Hmmmm.... I isn't the turn siganl relay the flasher......  

like the starter relay is basically  "sort of" a starter solenoid......

:-?  :-?

Title: Re: flasher
Post by desantam on 01/05/09 at 14:56:41

i dont really know, thats why im asking. any help that could be given would be great.

Title: Re: flasher
Post by AzDon on 01/05/09 at 19:04:29

What they call a turn signal relay is just basically a turn signal flasher with a square plastic housing that has a mounting clip on the side.....
My local Suzuki dealer offerred to order it for me at $42......
A regular automotive two-prong flasher  has the same pin arrangement and plugs right in and works awesome for less than ten bucks. The plastic cover of the original can be splitand ziptied over the new, round auto flasher so the original mounting clip can be utilized.
It is found on the right side of the frame, just inside (under) the front of the tank.

Title: Re: flasher
Post by Reelthing on 01/05/09 at 21:12:57

I'm confused a bit also - as t-mack was saying there is only one part (the location given above) - and the button on the grip

so if you already replaced the relay where was it located?

Title: Re: flasher
Post by desantam on 01/06/09 at 04:46:58

under the tank, near the front of the tank, on the right side. so i guess i replaced the flasher already, but i was hopping that there was another one on the bike that i didnt know about. when i replaced this all thatr happened was now my blinkers  turn on but they stay on, they wont blink. any ideas why they do this?

michael

Title: Re: flasher
Post by T Mack 1 on 01/06/09 at 08:05:36


565741535C46535F320 wrote:
under the tank, near the front of the tank, on the right side. so i guess i replaced the flasher already, but i was hopping that there was another one on the bike that i didnt know about. when i replaced this all thatr happened was now my blinkers  turn on but they stay on, they wont blink. any ideas why they do this?

michael


First,  I take it you can see the front light get brighter when you turn the swithch to that side.  YES??   The front has running lights and back not.  Also does the speedo indicator comes on?


Next, I've seen this before.....   but..... can you see me scratching my head trying to rememebr where & when.   :-?

Check for the following:
1) Make sure both front & back lights come on.   If not , you might not be drawing enough current to have the flasher heat up and trigger.

2) Check the battery (nice soild 12 - 13V with bike off , 13 to 15V with bike running)
2) Good ground at the light socket.  You will need an ohm meter to check this.  
3) Good switch operation ( my thought here is a possible dirty switch contact).  

T Mack

Title: Re: flasher
Post by desantam on 01/06/09 at 13:24:43

yes the lights are on up front not in back. the lights do brighten when clicked for that side, and the speedo indicator comes on. bothe the front and back come on when switched, and the ground is good. that was the second thing that i checked.
ill check and see if my battery needs to be charged. and ill pull the switch apart and clean it and see if that helps. i think the next step would be to buy a new switch and install it.

michael



Title: Re: flasher
Post by T Mack 1 on 01/06/09 at 19:49:47


4D4C5A48475D4844290 wrote:
yes the lights are on up front not in back. the lights do brighten when clicked for that side, and the speedo indicator comes on. bothe the front and back come on when switched, and the ground is good. that was the second thing that i checked.
ill check and see if my battery needs to be charged. and ill pull the switch apart and clean it and see if that helps. i think the next step would be to buy a new switch and install it.

michael


Be careful when you pull the switch apart......there be springs in there.....

Before buying new switch, test the circuit by bypassing the handle bar switch.  Would require getting a wiring diagram and using a wire ..... but you need to know what connectors to go across.... so find a wiring diagram, otherwise you may short the power to ground and blow a fuse.


(71 MB's download click here.... (http://www.manualz.info/Manuals_pdf/SUZUKI/LS650%20Savage%20'86%20a%20'04%20-%20Service%20Manual%20Clymer.pdf) )

Title: Re: flasher
Post by sakara on 01/09/09 at 08:10:54

I've had the same issue on a couple of bikes (hit the signal, they come on but don't flash). Every time it's been a ground issue. Try to check the connections at each end, and verify that the socket itself is grounding well. I did this by using a little alligator clip wire from the chassis up to the socket the bulb plugs in to force it to ground. A decent amount of the lithium grease on the bulbs worked for me once as well, as the ground wasn't too stable.

Title: Re: flasher
Post by desantam on 01/09/09 at 22:26:02

i checked for a ground, that was the second thing i did after replacing the flasher.
i fully charged the battery and that didnt help any.
could not having the right bulbs, be an issue?

Title: Re: flasher
Post by Reelthing on 01/09/09 at 22:31:04

could if the bulbs you have do not make enough load - what kind are they?

Title: Re: flasher
Post by desantam on 01/10/09 at 09:55:16

im not sure, but one of the ones up front is twice the size as the rest.

Title: Re: flasher
Post by T Mack 1 on 01/10/09 at 10:04:49

Are your original blubs good and are they the same size base?  If so test it by swapping....












bulbs.... not wifes (GF's).... I know the way some of you think...  

Title: Re: flasher
Post by desantam on 01/10/09 at 10:06:48

ok ill give it a shot and see what happenes,

michael

Title: Re: flasher
Post by desantam on 01/22/09 at 18:01:15

i fixed it!! thanks you guys.
turns out that i needed new bulbs (this made the left side blink)
and the front right blinker was wired backwards.
man am i happy.

thanks for all the help.

Title: Re: flasher
Post by Reelthing on 01/22/09 at 18:16:14

well cool

Title: Re: flasher
Post by T Mack 1 on 01/22/09 at 18:40:07

Yea.....    


One of my motto's .... check the simple stuff first.  

Title: Re: flasher
Post by TheFid on 01/23/09 at 02:54:36

See bulb rating list in Tech/Doc section under "Clymer Manual Errors".

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