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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Rubber Side Down! >> Gas tank removal and ***NEW!!! questions**** /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1228691334 Message started by saluteTOme on 12/07/08 at 15:08:54 |
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Title: Gas tank removal and ***NEW!!! questions**** Post by saluteTOme on 12/07/08 at 15:08:54 Ok, i re-jetted my carb yesterday with lancers kit....HOLY HELL...what a pain in the ass that was. At 1sst I couldn't get enough room, then when I got the carb off, I stripped the idle jet and needed to get it out via penetrating oil and a extractor. Got the replacement in fine. Put everything back together and WTF! it was SOOOOOO hard getting that carb back in. I spent about an hour trying to get it back in. I eventally took off the 2 screws to the gas tank under the seat and propt up the seat to give a little more room. Between that and using ALL my force to get the carb back in, I was able to and the air tube which was another pain in the ass but not nearly as bad. Now the questions: 1. How do you take off the gas tank? The link of the how to is broken. I suggest some one should make another to help a motorcycle noob like myself out. 2. If I wanted to get an air cone filter, when I take out the air box, what to people do with items like the computer (or what seems to be the computer)? 3. The Breather tubes that are on the carb: There is one on the left side and one on the ride side. They arent connected to anything besides the one end on the carb, are they? They fell out when i disconnected them from the carb and took the carb out and they don't look like they were connected to anything, but I would like to make sure. 4. I was also messing about with the exhaust. I have a dyna exhaust and where the exhaust is supported by the from, it looks like the muffler should have a screw or nut there to slide on. Do I just find a screw that works or does the dyna muffler get supported just by sitting there and the clamp? |
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Title: Re: Gas tank removal and some other questions/prob Post by Reelthing on 12/07/08 at 19:37:57 Bit of a debate on the gas tank removal - to drain it and remove the petcock or just wiggle the tank off is the question. |
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Title: Re: Gas tank removal and some other questions/prob Post by thumperclone on 12/07/08 at 21:05:00 after you remove the seat,fuel line,speedo cable(dont lose the o ring!) straddle the bike lift and pul lil to your left,disconnect the electric cable and you can set the tank down out of your way be mindfull of the petcock...back on is fun too,done it a dozen times still a pain.. RECONNECT those 2 tubes run them up each side of the frame to under the tank they vent the carb.. need to fab a support for the muff, there are chrome clamps and/ or straps you can use, a lil bending(of your fabbed strap) and you wont have to drill the oem arm where the stock muff was mounted.. |
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Title: Re: Gas tank removal and some other questions/prob Post by Max_Morley on 12/07/08 at 21:37:49 Seems like I've used a SAE carriage bolt on mine to attach the muffler to the bracket. Max |
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Title: Re: Gas tank removal and some other questions/prob Post by serowbot on 12/07/08 at 23:42:37 7D617C64796C7B6A6566676C090 wrote:
Whew!...You've had a booger of a time!...Welcome to the world of WTF motorcycle repair. By "RECONNECT", Thumperclone means, those two hoses connect to nothing. They are just vent tubes and need to be higher than the carb, open to air. They loop up to the frame under the tank.... Frustrating...but you did it! |
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Title: Re: Gas tank removal and some other questions/prob Post by saluteTOme on 12/09/08 at 13:33:17 083F3F362E3233343D5A0 wrote:
? Which one works? ;D Quote:
explain a little more please. |
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Title: Re: Gas tank removal and some other questions/prob Post by saluteTOme on 12/09/08 at 13:33:52 7563746971646972060 wrote:
Whew!...You've had a booger of a time!...Welcome to the world of WTF motorcycle repair. By "RECONNECT", Thumperclone means, those two hoses connect to nothing. They are just vent tubes and need to be higher than the carb, open to air. They loop up to the frame under the tank.... Frustrating...but you did it![/quote] yea, I figured that ;D But good, cause thats what I did. |
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Title: Re: Gas tank removal and some other questions/prob Post by Reelthing on 12/09/08 at 13:51:26 44565B42435263785A52370 wrote:
? Which one works? ;D [/quote] Me, I drain the tank and remove the petcock |
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Title: Re: Gas tank removal and some other questions/prob Post by PipJones on 12/09/08 at 14:01:23 I Drain the tank, but don't remove the petcock. I like the weight of an empty tank. |
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Title: Re: Gas tank removal and some other questions/prob Post by Reelthing on 12/09/08 at 15:06:44 I remove the petcock for a easy clearence with the frame |
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Title: Re: Gas tank removal and some other questions/prob Post by saluteTOme on 12/09/08 at 15:18:04 Do you really have to drain the tank? Not that it's a bid deal. I am just wondering. |
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Title: Re: Gas tank removal and some other questions/prob Post by Reelthing on 12/09/08 at 16:56:18 Oh, I think I do anyway - several folks lift it up push it one way or the other lift it some more and wiggle it - but if you pull it very often - like seems required to really do much on these bikes it sure is easy to just keep the rubber donuts lubed on the frame at the front of the tank and drain/remove the petcock - now you don't to worry about scratching the frame with it and such or drop'n a full tank. Both of these - a '95 and a '02 are sure easier that way. |
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Title: Re: Gas tank removal and some other questions/prob Post by odvelasc on 12/09/08 at 18:44:16 I do my work when the tank is half empty. Or I only partially drain the tank if need be. I keep the petcock on and I can remove that sucker in 5 minutes. |
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Title: Re: Gas tank removal and some other questions/prob Post by motokid on 12/09/08 at 19:50:50 no need to empty or remove the petcock - just be careful and wiggle, wiggle, wiggle slowly left and up and it will eventually come off. Key is a patience as you don't want to end up on your back with the tank slowly leaking on you :) |
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Title: Re: Gas tank removal and some other questions/prob Post by Dj12midnit on 12/09/08 at 20:14:59 I say just ride it till it runs out of gas then it is nice and lite. I have never pulled the petcock. |
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Title: Re: Gas tank removal and some other questions/prob Post by saluteTOme on 12/10/08 at 15:30:27 Once i get doing it, I will prob leave the peacock on and just disconnect all the tubes. I had trouble disconnecting the vacuum line to the carb so I will have to figure that out. So what what is under the tank in the front that keeps it from bagging around? Just alot of rubber mount type things? I am surprised the only screws are by the seat. |
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Title: Re: Gas tank removal and some other questions/prob Post by Reelthing on 12/10/08 at 16:58:25 the tank has slots on the underside that slide onto a pair of rubber donuts that fit onto the frame |
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Title: Re: Gas tank removal and some other questions/prob Post by saluteTOme on 12/10/08 at 17:00:31 oh-yea! what size clamp do I need to keep the Dyna exhaust on? 1.5", correct? |
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Title: Re: Gas tank removal and some other questions/prob Post by saluteTOme on 12/10/08 at 17:06:06 67505059415D5C5B52350 wrote:
ok, thanks |
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Title: Re: Gas tank removal and some other questions/prob Post by thumperclone on 12/12/08 at 09:10:47 3A28253C3D2C1D06242C490 wrote:
1.75" go to the local hardley dealer get their best clamp |
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Title: Re: Gas tank removal and some other questions/prob Post by saluteTOme on 12/12/08 at 13:07:01 would a regular exhaust C-clamp work at all? |
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Title: Re: Gas tank removal and some other questions/prob Post by saluteTOme on 12/13/08 at 17:57:06 One that looks just like this? http://www.pumabuild.co.uk/catalog/images/54mm-Exhaust-Clamp.jpg |
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Title: Re: Gas tank removal and some other questions/prob Post by Rockin_John on 12/13/08 at 19:10:38 7A68657C7D6C5D46646C090 wrote:
Those automotive clamps will work alright too... But they're harder to hide behind the little heat shield, and can look ugly. The Harley clamp is good. What Max was saying about the "carriage bolt" to mount the Dyna muff... Most of those mufflers have a "slotted mount." The smooth round head of the carriage bolt holds up in the slot, and the rectangular (square) bit underneath fits into the "slot" to keep the bolt from turning when you put a nut on the other end; which is sticking through the hanger bracket. Adequate description? ;) |
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Title: Re: Gas tank removal and some other questions/prob Post by saluteTOme on 12/13/08 at 19:15:20 I am going to try to use the C-clamp because A) I have one already and B) it's easier to get. About the bolt, I am sorry, I knew what he meant, I really meant if he knew the specs of the bolt so I could buy one. Or is there one on the bike I can "borrow" from another place and not effect anything in a negative manner? |
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Title: Re: Gas tank removal and some other questions/prob Post by saluteTOme on 12/17/08 at 15:31:54 OK New line of questioning ;D btw, I got the exhaust on with the C-clamp and there was NO problem and you cant see the clamp behind the heat shield and it was easy to get the heat shield on. Being I did the re-jetting too it took awile for the bike to start and I also think my batt didn't have the best of charges. Questions: It was running REAL shiatty for awhile until I mess around with the mix screw. Then I got it so that it ran but I was shotting flames out the tail pipe (running too rich). haha...it was cool to see but I dont want that. So I leaned it out a bit. Now it pops but no to little flame. I think it's more gases then anything. Can if I screw the idle screw ALL the way in, that is what? VERY rich, right? I would like to use that as a starting point. So at that point, (about) how many times should I turn it counter clockwise till I should start getting to the sweet point? Can also screw that screw all the way out? If so, is it a dangerous thing like I gotta watch out for a spring to shoot out and hit me in the eye? Anyone with a Dyna, do you "pop" even being tuned correctly? |
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Title: Re: Gas tank removal and ***NEW!!! questions**** Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/17/08 at 16:10:09 Get that mix screw out too far & the spring tension wont be sufficient to keep vibration from turning the screw. Amazingly, Ive never heard of one tightening, so they fall out. In leans it, out is rich. |
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Title: Re: Gas tank removal and ***NEW!!! questions**** Post by saluteTOme on 12/17/08 at 17:02:02 so I am running very lean then. That would cause fire to shoot out the muffler? So I can put it in all the way but it does come out, right? |
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Title: Re: Gas tank removal and ***NEW!!! questions**** Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/17/08 at 17:34:01 Be very gentle screwing it in. The needle can seat up tight on ya & mess things up. Fingertips on a skinny little screwdriver & go slow. In is lean. If ytou are lean now, Id lean toward turning out.But dont lean on my knowledge.Wait & see what the real mechanics say. |
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Title: Re: Gas tank removal and ***NEW!!! questions**** Post by saluteTOme on 12/17/08 at 18:07:13 thanks for that little heads up. I was using a small screw driver but when I was blowing fire, I was turning it quickly in. Not like a mad man, but I will deff more gentle with it. |
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Title: Re: Gas tank removal and ***NEW!!! questions**** Post by Stimpy on 12/17/08 at 22:38:11 "...back on is fun too, done it a dozen times still a pain" "Welcome to the world of WTF motorcycle repair" So beautifully put, and I thought I was the only one ;D Got the hang of it finally, I don't remove the petc0ck, just do it carefully at an angle. That Plug-door mod is a lifesaver! Good luck w/all. |
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Title: Re: Gas tank removal and ***NEW!!! questions**** Post by saluteTOme on 12/19/08 at 14:35:25 I know I can get MORE help on this |
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Title: Re: Gas tank removal and ***NEW!!! questions**** Post by verslagen1 on 12/19/08 at 15:24:13 4D5F524B4A5B6A71535B3E0 wrote:
So what are you unclear about? Gas weighs a pint a pound... roughly. Most say the petcock is very close to the frame. Either take it off if you're paranoid about scratching the frame or lift and wiggle the the left. The vent hoses point up, if you ever get the tank off, you'll see a hole in the frame in the back end of the top tube. Just think of your secratary ;) Throw a towel on the ground before you take the tank off so you have someplace to put it other than your sofa. With the tank off, you can remove the cables and lines off the carb. Loosen the clamps and twist it 90° for easy access to the top and bottom. Replace the carb screws with SS allen head screws for easier RnR. Always apply a little antisieze to fasteners of differing materials if you ever want to get them out again. Always use the correct tool for the job. Read the directions before you do the job. If you need more help, learn by doing and teach the rest of us. ;D |
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Title: Re: Gas tank removal and ***NEW!!! questions**** Post by saluteTOme on 12/19/08 at 17:04:50 oh-no...I am ok with that...haha I asked more questions on this page (page 3) |
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Title: Re: Gas tank removal and some other questions/prob Post by verslagen1 on 12/19/08 at 17:44:53 796B667F7E6F5E45676F0A0 wrote:
This the one you're talking about? idk |
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Title: Re: Gas tank removal and ***NEW!!! questions**** Post by saluteTOme on 12/19/08 at 17:47:24 yea, thats the one |
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