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Message started by serowbot on 11/30/08 at 10:20:36

Title: Rear-sets
Post by serowbot on 11/30/08 at 10:20:36

My buddy Gerry is interested in getting a more standard footpeg position. Anybody know who's bike this is? or any suggestions on the subject?
Serowbot

http://www.jonline.org/savage/Photos/Cool_Savages/savagecafe2.jpg

Title: Re: Rear-sets
Post by gerald.hughes on 11/30/08 at 13:28:36

So, Does anyone have a picture of the left side of the bike?

Title: Re: Rear-sets
Post by rigidchop on 11/30/08 at 15:35:11

rockin john has a set of mids, he bought off of someone here.

Title: Re: Rear-sets
Post by Rockin_John on 11/30/08 at 16:43:14

425957595453585F40300 wrote:

rockin john has a set of mids, he bought off of someone here.

Nope, sorry. I offered to buy them from the guy when he offered them for sale, but he never answered my messages and email. I still have pictures saved of his work.

I suspect that he was afraid to sell them to me due to liability issues. He built them for his wife, who was a fly-weight, and I'm in the heavyweight division! ;D

Anyways, I'm real busy at the moment... If I get time after while (and the dang website will cooperate!) I'll upload his pictures to my website, and post them here, so people can take a look. He did a really neat looking job of it.

Later,

John

Title: Re: Rear-sets
Post by Rockin_John on 12/01/08 at 00:49:21

So as to not bog down this poor slow site... If you want to see pictures of a mid control savage conversion, go here:

http://catoosatrading.com/images/cycles/mid_control/

And browse through the pictures. The guy who built this conversion said that it was rather "light weight" for his wife, but it looks pretty well built to me. I wouldn't want to stand like a dirt bike on the pegs all day, but for normal riding it looks sturdy enough to me.

I think the biggest problem is that it puts your legs in a very buckled position because of the super low seat height of the Savage. I'd still like to try it myself. Having a raised seat would almost certainly help.

Title: Re: Rear-sets
Post by serowbot on 12/01/08 at 10:49:27

Thanks for the pics, Rockin_John...nice set-up, exactly what I was looking for...

Title: Re: Rear-sets
Post by Rockin_John on 12/01/08 at 19:03:02

6B697E6D60682264796B64697F0C0 wrote:

So, Does anyone have a picture of the left side of the bike?

Hi Gerald,

Sorry, I looked all through my extensive collection of modified Savage pictures; and while I found a few other pictures of that bike, none showed the left side clearly.

I'm curious though what it is you wanted to see on that side?

You did notice that besides being set back that the foot controls have also been reversed on that bike; to right hand shift like an old British bike?

Title: Re: Rear-sets
Post by SV og LS on 12/02/08 at 01:36:42

675A565E5C5B6A7F5A5D5B350 wrote:

You did notice that besides being set back that the foot controls have also been reversed on that bike; to right hand shift like an old British bike?

At least I didn't. How do you know it's reversed? For me it looks like there's an aftermarket brake lever but I don't see any of the crossover linkages.

Title: Re: Rear-sets
Post by serowbot on 12/02/08 at 16:08:23

I'm thinkin' it's just a shifty lookin' brake lever....

Title: Re: Rear-sets
Post by Rockin_John on 12/02/08 at 18:40:36

I'll give you a hint about what makes me think I know which side is the shifter and which side is the brake:

When you are sitting on your bike, preparing to ride away, which foot do you have on the ground if you are on level ground? ;)

Edit:

This fellow looks like he's about to ride away, and I bet he has the foot he plans to be shifting with up on its peg!

http://catoosatrading.com/images/cycles/savage_pics/curves_anyone.jpg

Of course I could be wrong, but I don't think so! ;D

BTW, a couple more pictures of that bike that I scrounged up:

http://catoosatrading.com/images/cycles/savage_pics/cafe_savage2.jpg

Well my goodness... all he has for instruments is a big old tachometer...
and the little bicycle speedo off to the left on the bars.

http://catoosatrading.com/images/cycles/savage_pics/cafe_savage3.jpg

Title: Re: Rear-sets
Post by gerald.hughes on 12/02/08 at 19:25:15

These are certainly some pictures that I haven't seen before. I would certainly like to see that bike and talk to the owner.

Not sure that I agree about the shifter. First of all it would necessitate routing the shift linkage under the bike. Second, the rear wheel would have to be reversed so that the drum brake could be actuated from the left. I think it more likely that the individual was just posing for a picture, and not actually in the process of taking off. Of course, I have been wrong many many times before.

Still, thank you so much for taking the time to locate and post these pictures. Really appreciated.

Title: Re: Rear-sets
Post by Rockin_John on 12/02/08 at 19:42:30

Nahhh You don't have to "reverse the rear wheel" to change the controls around. They can be activated by a cable. This used to be a common modification to bikes so that the controls would be on the correct side for riding flat track. They needed the shifter on the right side; because their left foot had a steel shank on the bottom of the boot for sliding it on the ground around the corners. Of course the flat track guys didn't much care whether they had any brakes at all, front or rear; and indeed most of them rode with none at all! :o

Title: Re: Rear-sets
Post by serowbot on 12/02/08 at 20:17:43

Great pics!...looks like a Savage hoot'n'nanny...not in U.S., plates are too big...the bike looks even better with a rider.

(edit) By Gumby,...I think you're right!...the tank pic seems to show a telltale glimpse of brake pedal on the left side...must be Brit... ;)

(re-edit) wait a minute,..I was staring at the kickstand...
This dude needs to do some explaining....cool bike though, either way...looks like he laced a 17" rim to the back, too...

Title: Re: Rear-sets
Post by SV og LS on 12/03/08 at 00:54:02

0D303C34363100153037315F0 wrote:

This fellow looks like he's about to ride away, and I bet he has the foot he plans to be shifting with up on its peg!

http://catoosatrading.com/images/cycles/savage_pics/curves_anyone.jpg

Of course I could be wrong, but I don't think so! ;D

He's about to ride away with front brake on? I'm still not convinced about the shifter side.

Title: Re: Rear-sets
Post by Moofed on 12/03/08 at 06:49:32

Found in the gallery on ls650.eu which seems to require registration to browse and German literacy to navigate. ;D
http://www.ls650.eu/photoplog/images/139/medium/1_ls2.jpg
Full size: http://www.ls650.eu/photoplog/images/139/1_ls2.jpg
Still doesn't show the left side. :-/

edit: This pic is on the Savage CD too, but at much lower resolution.

Title: Re: Rear-sets
Post by SV og LS on 12/03/08 at 07:42:28

This is getting more like Agatha Christie. I'm looking at the first picture of Moofed's post and if there's linkage across the bike below the swingarm, near the pivot, it's well hidden. It should be somewhere there if there's one.