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Message started by seviersavage on 11/02/08 at 17:09:14

Title: Lancers camshaft testimonials and install querry
Post by seviersavage on 11/02/08 at 17:09:14

In the market place Lancer opened thread about camshafts and said to ask the people who have one for their input.
Well I'm asking, I want to know what difference I might expect from it.

And also the Clymers mentions that you might not be able to install without pulling the motor due to close tolerances with the frame.

Anyone have trouble installing theirs?

I have stock carb jetted to 55 pilot and 150 main, half spacer.
Dyna muffler and K&N filter. Dont want to make any changes as it is running good and want opinions if the performance cam will add all it is suppose to with this setup as is.

Thanks all, Seviersavage

Title: Re: Lancers camshaft testimonials and install quer
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/02/08 at 17:44:10

I wish I had the time & energy to REALLY [play with it. Id make it stock & go thru each mod & measure the performance change.
I added the Supertrapp & did the carb jets. Cool return on investment.
Later, I did the cam. I think it added about 1/2 the boost I got from the TRapp & jets. Im glad I dropped the $$. There was no time involved, because I was doing the cam chain innyway. Id do it again.

I think I need to do more carb tinkering, airflow in & out work, since others have torquier rides. Im missing it somewhere, but it aint the cams fault.

Title: Re: Lancers camshaft testimonials and install quer
Post by Yonuh Adisi on 11/02/08 at 19:24:03

[infomercial style testimony] Before the Lancer cam I couldn't even lift the stock front end on my 2000 Suzuki LS650 Savage, now, thanks to Lancer's camshaft, a Jardine, muffler and slight re-jet, I can lift the heavy Girder front end I now have about an inch from fifteen miles an hour in second gear just by rolling back hard on the throttle. Thank you Lancer, I will recommend your camshaft to all my friends. [/infomercial style testimony] ;) ;) (this testimonial was given without paid endorsement from the sponsor.)

Sorry, I just couldn't resist. ;D

Title: Re: Lancers camshaft testimonials and install quer
Post by SV og LS on 11/03/08 at 00:58:43

0036372C31183D302A30590 wrote:

[infomercial style testimony]I can lift the heavy Girder front end I now have about an inch from fifteen miles an hour in second gear just by rolling back hard on the throttle.[/infomercial style testimony] ;) ;) (this testimonial was given without paid endorsement from the sponsor.)

Are you really sure it is a wheelie and not just your girder taking out all the slack and topping out with a noticeable clunk? If it wheelies in second at 15 mph it should wheelie in third and fourth at, say, 50 mph because there's a bit more torque at those revs.

Title: Re: Lancers camshaft testimonials and install quer
Post by Yonuh Adisi on 11/03/08 at 10:42:21

I am positive.

Title: Re: Lancers camshaft testimonials and install quer
Post by seviersavage on 11/03/08 at 12:27:32

Yonuh Adisi,
Your response was what promted me to start this thread, I'm hoping there are others with cool experiences to share.

Did you have any trouble with clearances when you installed? Or maybe the motor was out when you did it?
Seviersavage

Title: Re: Lancers camshaft testimonials and install quer
Post by verslagen1 on 11/03/08 at 12:47:15

I was able to take the cover off while in the frame.
Although it took some practice while clean and dry to figure out how to do it.
Some additional space can be gotten by removing the mounting bolts and letting the engine drop into the frame. The engine can be tipped forward to give you lots of room, like when putting in the center retaining bolt. ;D

Title: Re: Lancers camshaft testimonials and install quer
Post by Yonuh Adisi on 11/03/08 at 12:47:25

Nope, I didn't have any problems, but if you remove the bottom and top motor mounts just leaving the rear mount on, you can pivot the engine down about an inch or so and you will have plenty of room.

Title: Re: Lancers camshaft testimonials and install quer
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/03/08 at 18:45:21

I didnt drop the motor & it all went in easy enough. I did mark the brackets, left & right, just because I didnt want to have to think going back. Remember to use a piece of cardboard & put an outline of the case on it & slice it to hold each screw. Some have a rubber coated washer, some dont, some longer, etc, so just tossin them in a bucket will create a puzzle going back together. If you have an impact your life will be made easier. There are 12volt impacts for about 50 bucks.I think a compressor is mandatory for bike owners anyway.

Title: Re: Lancers camshaft testimonials and install quer
Post by KwakNut on 11/05/08 at 02:30:27

I installed my Lancer cam along with a lot of other mods including ported head, raised compression, Raask exhaust, VM carb, and K&N.

It compliments those others mods beautifully and I can tell that the delivery from the cam is very nice and even across the revs - the cam doesn't give you a more 'peaky' delivery, just smooth and strong across the normal range.

As for installation, I found I could remove the cover and head with the engine in place quite easily, but not quite get the barrel off, even dropping the motor in its mounts.

Title: Re: Lancers camshaft testimonials and install quer
Post by blacksheep23 on 11/05/08 at 09:40:29

4F73656F4A7170040 wrote:

What do u use to raise the compression?And how do u ported the head?

Title: Re: Lancers camshaft testimonials and install quer
Post by Robertomoe on 11/05/08 at 09:54:14

Can I ask how long it took everyone to drop the engine and replace the cam?

And how long it might take to fix the head plug while doing that?

Title: Re: Lancers camshaft testimonials and install quer
Post by Yonuh Adisi on 11/05/08 at 10:08:07

I can do it in an hour, but that is with a lot of practice. My advice would be, don't worry about how long it will take, just go slow and pay attention, keep a service manual (Clymers or SSM) open near you the whole time. When you try to rush and beat the clock is when you end up really messing something up.

Title: Re: Lancers camshaft testimonials and install quer
Post by verslagen1 on 11/05/08 at 11:14:23

4A7C7D667B52777A607A130 wrote:

YOU DID THE ENGINE IN AN HOUR?!?!?

I salute you! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Takes me an hour to find my tools ::)

Title: Re: Lancers camshaft testimonials and install quer
Post by srinath on 11/05/08 at 14:25:46

1 hour actually sounds like a lot ... but of course I spend it looking for my beer.
Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Lancers camshaft testimonials and install quer
Post by seviersavage on 11/05/08 at 14:31:41

I hate to waste time looking for my tools thats why I try to have everything in it's rightful place. Then I can go right to it, saves time for sure. Like my beer is in the fridge on the first shelf top left. ;D
Seviersavage

Keep em coming!

Title: Re: Lancers camshaft testimonials and install quer
Post by srinath on 11/05/08 at 14:42:39

Yea ... you're no fun.
Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Lancers camshaft testimonials and install quer
Post by srinath on 11/05/08 at 14:47:21

Oh, I actually deviced this when doing my engine fit in my powdercoated frame.
When the bike is fully assembled, you put nylon straps between the motor and frame on the bottom. That way when you remove the front motor mount bolts the motor will sit on the straps instead of the frame and tear its finish up. Then when you're done lowering the motor you can take the ends of the straps hook it on the handle bar use a ratcheting clasp to lift the motor enough to get the top moutn in, then the 2 side mounts can go in easy. I think I did it with a thick towel then decided that thick nylon straps are ideal.
Cool.
Srinath.