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Message started by Yonuh Adisi on 10/27/08 at 22:06:03

Title: Stripped down for re-paint (updated)
Post by Yonuh Adisi on 10/27/08 at 22:06:03

Well, most of ya'll know that I have put the FireLizard into hibernation. I did it yesterday and today I have stripped her down to a bare rolling chassis. It took me about four hours to strip her all the way down which included engine removal and wiring harness and all the little doodads.

Sorry for the dark pics but my garage ain't exactly well lit.

http://a640.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/73/l_3d724a9ad74269f892231150c1af602f.jpg

http://a8.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/66/l_e5e8e7a143fc4a0a40aa50f8af404437.jpg

I will provide better pics next weekend.

Title: Re: Stripped down for re-paint
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/27/08 at 23:55:19

but, but, I came here ExpecTIN pics NOW, Duuude..

What color you gonna paint it?

Title: Re: Stripped down for re-paint
Post by Yonuh Adisi on 10/28/08 at 10:32:41

657A7C7B6661506050687A763D0F0 wrote:

but, but, I came here ExpecTIN pics NOW, Duuude..

What color you gonna paint it?

Title: Re: Stripped down for re-paint (pics added)
Post by srinath on 10/28/08 at 11:25:33

Powdercoat it. The color you are dreaming of is silver with mylar flecks under candy blue.
Try this link for pics.
http://picasaweb.google.com/srinath.the.man/PoppedOpenShocks#5214755503287943186

The only problem is, its usually not that uniform, it sorta bunches up at joints and has a few drips and thick and thin spots ... but I should say ... looking in the sun totally makes up for any short commings in the thicknesses.
BTW black with multicolor specs in the clear ... I done it and it comes out near perfect ... or atleast you cant see its flaws.
Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Stripped down for re-paint
Post by steely on 10/28/08 at 19:37:21

5D6B6A716C45606D776D040 wrote:

[quote author=657A7C7B6661506050687A763D0F0 link=1225170364/0#1 date=1225176919]but, but, I came here ExpecTIN pics NOW, Duuude..

What color you gonna paint it?

There there Justin, here is some pics, wanna 'nother lolipop? ;D

I am gonna be painting it a dark blue hopefully with metal flake if I can find it. Still working on the kind of graphics I want but getting closer. Gonna repaint the frame black, wish I had the money to powdercoat.[/quote]

I wish you were closer, I could get the powder coating done for you for relatively cheap. Only problem is, the guy I know only does industrial powder coating. So nothing with fancy colors. I got the jugs, head, head cover, carb tops, carb bowls, and all of the engine covers done on my GS850 for about $50. Everything I could get off without splitting the cases. They are just basic black, but they look really good.

The next time i take anything to him, I am doing the masking work myself instead of trusting it to his shop monkeys. They left a gap on the head and I ended up with a powder coated strip on one of the cam journals. That was a pregnant dog to get off...

Title: Re: Stripped down for re-paint
Post by mikestrikes on 10/29/08 at 08:10:59

Steely............ how well does it cool with the fins coated ?

I want a Black motor but was going to paint.

Yosh........... I found that my 15 year old daughter has some sparkly glitter she puts on her cheeks at times. Very sim to what you see in paints but only $1 ...... not $50...... I will be getting a tub and try mixing it with some paint shortly .....

Title: Re: Stripped down for re-paint (pics added)
Post by srinath on 10/29/08 at 08:29:42

My guy also does industrial stuff ... but they do have lots of colors. He buys 5lb lots, and since he buys them a lot, they can order anything and it gets shipped with their large orders.
Anyway, I too get stuff back with powder everywhere ... I just clean it off and go on ...
High heat powder conducts heat just fine ... dunno about regular powder.
Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Stripped down for re-paint
Post by Yonuh Adisi on 10/29/08 at 09:31:15

6246444A5C7B5D46444A5C2F0 wrote:

Let me know the outcome of that experiment.

Title: Re: Stripped down for re-paint (pics added)
Post by srinath on 10/29/08 at 09:43:57

The flecks in powdercoating as well as girls glitter is nearly the same. I believe its flecks of mylar. How big and what not is the only difference. Its also the same material those silver balloons are made of and that is also used for wine bags for wine that comes in big gallon cardboars sized boxes ...
Want a neat trick ... - OK try at your risk, not responsible for mishaps leading from this method.
Take one of those used wine bags out of the box, and yank off the tap. A good man sized tug oughtta do it. Then wash it with hot water ... for good measure wash the tap too. Dont fit the tap back in or atleast not too tightly back in.
Then dry it, and fold it up and keep in your bike tool box or your riding back pack/tank bag.
If you run out of gas ... you can walk to the gas station, fill it with ~1 gal gasoline Put the tap back in and walk back to the bike and put that gas in it. Then you ride on to the gas station and fill up.
The bags are gas resistant, I have used one as a diaphragm on a vacuum gas pump like what my seca 600 had for over 3-4 years.
You also have extra ear type room on its corners and you can punch holes in it and string a shoe lace through it and carry it over your shoulder when its filled, empty it fits in your pocket.
I like franzia brand the best. It has a true tap and its transparent not silver.
Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Stripped down for re-paint (pics added)
Post by Chopped on 10/29/08 at 09:49:43

So.... should you drink the wine before you jump on the bike? I am a big fan of box wine... you can carry it around with you and drink at your leisure!

Title: Re: Stripped down for re-paint (pics added)
Post by Chopped on 10/29/08 at 09:50:38

Oh... and Yonah... who made that springer? Looks pretty nice!

Title: Re: Stripped down for re-paint (pics added)
Post by Yonuh Adisi on 10/29/08 at 09:59:28

15223B3B032225273E39570 wrote:

Oh... and Yonah... who made that springer? Looks pretty nice!

It's a Durfee Girder front end that I got off of e-bay along with the mini drum brake front wheel. (stock Savage wheel was too wide)

Title: Re: Stripped down for re-paint (pics added)
Post by srinath on 10/29/08 at 10:03:05

He made the springer ... with his bare hands ... beating the metal and ... forget it ... he put a lot of pics up when he was building it ~1 year ago.
He and I were posting about fitting some loooooooong ass front end off whatever poor bike happened to have strayed our way ...
I did KX500 ... he went the springy way ... harley springy ...

There is a box-o-wine in everyone's tank ...

Not responsible for DWI or wobbling after fill up either ...

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Stripped down for re-paint (pics added)
Post by srinath on 10/29/08 at 10:04:49

Yonuh - you didn't cut the frame or otherwise rake it right ?
I dont think my 10-12 inch longer legs are this pronuncedly stretched.
Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Stripped down for re-paint (pics added)
Post by Chopped on 10/29/08 at 10:08:30

It doesn't appear that he did... but I have been wrong in the past!

Srinath... I would drink the wine, wash out the bag, put it back in the box, and strap it to the back of the bike just to see what the cops say when They pull me over!

Title: Re: Stripped down for re-paint (pics added)
Post by Yonuh Adisi on 10/29/08 at 10:09:57

60617A7D72677B130 wrote:

Yonuh - you didn't cut the frame or otherwise rake it right ?
I dont think my 10-12 inch longer legs are this pronuncedly stretched.
Cool.
Srinath.

Nope, no modification to the frame at all, I even used the stock Savage neck stem and bearings.

Title: Re: Stripped down for re-paint (pics added)
Post by srinath on 10/29/08 at 10:14:44

OK, I guess your FE is longer ... I have to check mine and see if its going to look like yours in that pic in your avatar. Maybe its an camera fish eye thing ... maybe not, your other pics still look raked.
Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Stripped down for re-paint (pics added)
Post by Yonuh Adisi on 10/29/08 at 11:19:44

54554E4946534F270 wrote:

By the way srinath, how is that coming along? I haven't seen any update to that for quite some time.

Title: Re: Stripped down for re-paint (pics added)
Post by srinath on 10/29/08 at 11:32:51

Its like 1 hour from being on the road ... except ...
OK I took it all apart, got the frame powdercoated, got the heads done 3 angle valve, decking it, gaskets etc, fit the motor back and all else back, fit the FE on it ... it was 99% done when I realised I didn;t have a front caliper for it. Then life took over, and we loaded it in a E350 van that we turned into a trailer and moved to houston. Then 6 months went by and I hated my job there and we moved right back to NC. In houston though, I found a caliper for it. Then in NC its sat in that trailer in the location of the driver for the last 6 months while I have been buried in other projects. Needless to say, I have plonked a 1000 things between it and the right side double doors ... so getting it out will take 3 hours ... but once out its 1 hour. Fitting rear fender, fitting light misc like caliper etc, bleeding it and test running it.
Anyway, I will get it done soon.
However I bought savage #4 october, and am furiously fixing it ... it should be done and running in the next 2 weeks.
Anyway, I have to get the maxim done and to my friend, get the virago stuff back from my houston upholstery guy etc etc. Then there is the never ending GS500 parade.
Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Stripped down for re-paint (pics added)
Post by Yonuh Adisi on 10/29/08 at 11:36:52

Ooookkkaaaay then. That explains why no update. LOL. Hope you can get settled enough to relax soon.

Title: Re: Stripped down for re-paint (pics added)
Post by srinath on 10/29/08 at 11:49:41

I have realised that the time it takes me to buy and tear down a busted bike and find the parts for it, and fit it back together is exactly 1 hour more than the interval at which these exciting projects show up in my neighborhood. So I have to move where there is fewer exciting projects or work faster.
Anyway, that bike has been bobbed so severely that whoever sees it is going to assume it was also chopped.
Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Stripped down for re-paint
Post by steely on 10/29/08 at 15:43:24

6E4A48465077514A484650230 wrote:

Steely............ how well does it cool with the fins coated ?

I want a Black motor but was going to paint.

I have had no problems with it staying cool at all. I have not run any empirical tests, but I don't notice any more heat radiating out of it than before. I prefer powder coating over painting. It seems to hold up better under heat and UV.

Title: Re: Stripped down for re-paint (pics added)
Post by srinath on 10/29/08 at 16:27:11

Finally someone else says exactly what I been saying for years ...
Powdercoating will not look as pretty as paint the day the 2 are done. 1 year out, they are starting to look similar if they have been inside, and if they have been outside they look very similar. 2 years later, the powder looks better, no matter what, and after that its no contest.
I clear over powdercoat usually, and even better on some powder, you can sand with 1000 grit and paint clear ... at any time, over even clear coated powder.
Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Stripped down for re-paint (pics added)
Post by Yonuh Adisi on 01/10/09 at 16:47:15

I am very irritated. I was in the process of painting my rear fender and guess what. THE DANG THING FELL AND HIT THE GARAGE FLOOR. UUUHHHGGG!!! And one of my side covers did the same dang thing blast it.

Now I got to almost start over with it. The tank is painted and the forward controls though.

I'm gonna get something to eat and go back out there.

Title: Re: Stripped down for re-paint (pics added)
Post by T Mack 1 on 01/10/09 at 17:51:10

4D7B7A617C55707D677D140 wrote:

Get some cheapie bungie cords. Hang the fender and side cover on then and then do the spraying.

Title: Re: Stripped down for re-paint (updated)
Post by clueless on 01/10/09 at 18:14:22

When I painted my fenders, etc, I had to hang them from a tree and paint them. If that isn't "shade tree" then nothin' is. But I painted with bed liner, so it didn't matter. Came out perfect!

Title: Re: Stripped down for re-paint (updated)
Post by Yonuh Adisi on 01/10/09 at 18:25:11

Tried to straighten the boogered up parts of the fender and side cover but it didn't work very well as I ran out of paint. (using rattle cans) The tank and forward controls look good though.

I just ain't a body man, I think next time I will just take the tins to a body shop here in town. I know they do good work because they painted my buddies VTX1300.

Title: Re: Stripped down for re-paint (updated)
Post by Yonuh Adisi on 01/10/09 at 21:50:40

Almost there, had to stop because I need some RTV for the plug cap which I will be getting tomorrow. But hopefully within the next couple of days I will be up and running again. And man do I need it, I need some asphalt therapy extremely bad.

Title: Re: Stripped down for re-paint (updated)
Post by Yonuh Adisi on 01/12/09 at 00:30:56

Fired it up a few minutes ago. The FireLizard is coming together again nicely except the wiring harness I had bought off of e-bay was the wrong one, so I had to just fix my old harness and use it. That's okay though, that just means I have a harness for my 87 frame when I get done using it for mock-ups and get ready to build it for my daughter.

All I got left to do is do a bit of wire management and put the tank on and button it the rest of the way up and I will be ready to roll again.

Title: Re: Stripped down for re-paint (updated)
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/12/09 at 06:45:50

A case of beer will grease the skids with a painter. Go visit up at the body shop. You walk in & pay regular prices for paint work, you might have a heart attack. There are ways to save $$$. Learning to do the prep work yourself & getting the painter to do it "On the side" are the 2 biggest.

Title: Re: Stripped down for re-paint (updated)
Post by Yonuh Adisi on 01/12/09 at 14:21:17

The FireLizard is now a bike again, all I gotta do is syphon enough fuel out of the van (doesn't run needs engine rebuild) and I will be ready to rock and roll.

Title: Re: Stripped down for re-paint (updated)
Post by SavRon on 01/12/09 at 14:52:35

Any Pics ? .....................of the Van ;D

Kidding...lets see the new bike.

Title: Re: Stripped down for re-paint (updated)
Post by Yonuh Adisi on 01/12/09 at 21:00:44

It was a perty blue, but then I spilled gas and it stripped most of the paint off of the tank. Talk about being pi$$ed off.

On a good note however, I didn't just bring the FireLizard back to life, I also brought my brother's GL500 back to life.

Title: Re: Stripped down for re-paint (updated)
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/12/09 at 21:05:57

Man, Youve had HE double Hockey Sticks, havent ya?

DONT FALL DOWN!!!

Title: Re: Stripped down for re-paint (updated)
Post by T Mack 1 on 01/14/09 at 09:56:19

1F2928332E07222F352F460 wrote:

Yonuh Adisi,
I use to do the same, A rattle can job, plus rattle can clear. The bikes looked great, till the gas.

But, now I'm a convert. I had to repaint my son's '73 Honda SL70 dirtbike. Well,.... I knew he would be spilling gas so over to Harbour Freight I went. They have a 4 oz detailing spray gun for less than $10. The Auto-paint store sold me the pint of single part paint (red) and the special hardener for gas resistance for a total of $18. I did the SL70 PLUS a Rupp Hustler mini-bike with that Pint and still have at least 1/4 left. If you compare the rattle can costs, I'm actually ahead. And.... the detail gun goes so slow that it very hard to get the paint to run.