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Title: Screaming Eagle Pipe = ticket Post by Latimer on 10/19/08 at 10:39:20 So I put a screaming eagle pipe on my savage in April and have been riding with it without incident until yesterday. I got pulled over on the highway because the cop said my pipe was too loud. Got a $100 citation for it. The cop claimed that he was a "harley rider" and that he knew for a fact that screaming eagle pipes are never street legal and they dont even have baffles.... which he is dead wrong on... and he eventually realized when he stuck his knightstick in the pipe and found out there was a baffle. Anyways, has anyone else ever got a citation for a screaming eagle pipe? I've heard bikes that are MUCH louder than mine, and I have never had trouble with this before. Anyways, I think this might have just been a jerk cop who was looking to give someone a ticket. Thoughts? |
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Title: Re: Screaming Eagle Pipe = ticket Post by bill67 on 10/19/08 at 10:49:17 Illinois gives out tickets for not wearing seat belts all the time,Wisconsin is good about that and of course Harley are make in Wisconsin so they don't give out tickets for loud pipes. Loud pipes are sort of going out around here in the last 10 years. |
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Title: Re: Screaming Eagle Pipe = ticket Post by rigidchop on 10/19/08 at 11:45:58 i have always made it a habit, of letting off the throttle on whatever i'm on or in, around the police. $100 seems a little excessive, for a fix it ticket. |
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Title: Re: Screaming Eagle Pipe = ticket Post by savagespence on 10/19/08 at 11:56:00 It sounds like a "know it all" who has problem that stems back from highschool. However your local laws could be more restrictive than the state. I work with alot of "know it alls" as I'm an officer and hate dealing with those types. Good luck... |
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Title: Re: Screaming Eagle Pipe = ticket Post by saluteTOme on 10/19/08 at 12:20:00 I learned this lesson when it comes to cars. If you're every pulled over for a sound violation. Ask to see his decibel meter. He has to have you on record for being over a certain sound level other wise ticket is no good. You could goto court and ask to see it then if not, ticket SHOULD be thrown out. |
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Title: Re: Screaming Eagle Pipe = ticket Post by savagespence on 10/19/08 at 12:48:54 273538212031001B3931540 wrote:
Its not like that in Tennessee I know ALOT of people seem to think you can ask to see the "radar gun" db machine etc. But officers do not have to show them any tools used to make the stop. That was held up by the supreme court. And the same goes for the Db machines. Its the requirement of the defendant to prove its not within standards. Most laws vary alot from state to state... |
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Title: Re: Screaming Eagle Pipe = ticket Post by saluteTOme on 10/19/08 at 14:32:16 my man is from Boston so he may have better luck with that. |
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Title: Re: Screaming Eagle Pipe = ticket Post by Latimer on 10/19/08 at 19:00:11 yeah not sure what the local laws are here in Mass. But I know he didnt have a decibel meter on him. He said he pulled me over cause it shook his car... he was parked at a rest stop just off the highway... so its very unlikely that was the case. Unfortunately I think it is just one of the know it all types who was having a bad day. I would appeal it but honestly having to take a day off work to go appeal the ticket and automatically having to pay a $50 court fee doesnt sound like a very good idea. Probably easier for me to just pay the fine.... |
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Title: Re: Screaming Eagle Pipe = ticket Post by saluteTOme on 10/19/08 at 19:24:27 most cases it is easier to pay the fine but thats what they hope so I guess just chalk one up for 5-0 |
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Title: Re: Screaming Eagle Pipe = ticket Post by Trippah on 10/19/08 at 20:09:40 usually the RMV has the state's laws pertaining to loudness, to include dB read (Usually A scale) and distance from muff to sound level meter. If you can get the law's specifics, have the bike's loudness measured..if it's within legal limits, go to an inspection station and have them do it again for the record; if not, well, may be time to reconsider the muff. Good luck either way. |
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Title: Re: Screaming Eagle Pipe = ticket Post by Trippah on 10/19/08 at 20:17:54 The Mass standard is the exhaust system may not be louder than with the origional exhaust system.. I think you are going to be out $100. >:( |
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Title: Re: Screaming Eagle Pipe = ticket Post by drharveys on 10/20/08 at 02:08:28 Excessive noise -- that's what we plea bargain our speeders down to 'cause it's a fine only-no points violation! Sure, there's a part of us all that wants to fight this type of minor injustice as a matter of principle. Only problem is, the time and effort to do it is so out of proportion the amount of money involved that it's really not worth it to roll the dice in court. Speaking of rolling dice -- are there any casinos within thumping distance? If so, ride there, have a nice meal at the restaurant, and then ride home. Don't gamble. By not gambling, you should more than make up the hundred buck fine! ;D |
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Title: Re: Screaming Eagle Pipe = ticket Post by mick on 10/20/08 at 02:20:06 I got a fix it ticket with a jardene drag muff,it is a straight through muff without baffles, so I made a baffle from 1/8 " steel plate ,I placed the muff on a piece of paper and drew a line around it,then I glued it to the piece of steel,I took it to welding shop that had a huge machine that cuts metal,the guy kept chopping bits of it until it was almost oval, I filed it to shape,took about two days,then I drilled a bunch of holes in it ,then put in the end of the muff about an inch in, and then spot welded it in place,it toned it down nicely but still had a great noise when I open her up. |
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Title: Re: Screaming Eagle Pipe = ticket Post by Latimer on 10/20/08 at 05:31:46 193F243D3D2C254D0 wrote:
Gotta love Mass. Figures this would be our law. Well looks like Im out $100. |
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Title: Re: Screaming Eagle Pipe = ticket Post by sm96 on 10/20/08 at 07:49:56 I think that the cop being a Harley rider he wanted to bust b@lls. Was there a truck around you that might of had a Jakebrake and when he looked up he saw the thumper going past. That would be a jealous Harly rider using he police powers to bust chops. I wonder how many Harleys screamed past him and he let them go. |
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Title: Re: Screaming Eagle Pipe = ticket Post by Tincanman on 10/20/08 at 08:28:26 I run an SE and my son runs a Dyna from a HD. they are both about the same level of noise but think he may have punched his out some. also the guys I ride with have no MUFFLERS AT ALL on there bikes and they are WAY louder than ours. Id have to say that cop was BOARD that day. >:( |
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Title: Re: Screaming Eagle Pipe = ticket Post by Latimer on 10/20/08 at 08:33:27 5D594C51565F4B5557535D380 wrote:
One of the first thing the cop said to me after I told him what the pipe was was "So you have a Harley pipe on a Japanese bike".... then he snickered. |
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Title: Re: Screaming Eagle Pipe = ticket Post by zilla on 10/20/08 at 12:42:48 I'd stick whatever manner of socks or steel wool in there to quiet it down. Then take it directly to the police station and have in inspected for compliance with the fix it ticket. Go home and pull the stuff out. Repeat as necessary. Ride in peace. |
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Title: Re: Screaming Eagle Pipe = ticket Post by Spiff on 10/20/08 at 13:07:11 2E3D383835540 wrote:
Did anyone else notice the irony of ending a post suggesting a way to keep illiegally loud pipes on a bike with "Ride in peace"? Unfortunately, all the loud pipers on the road keep the rest of us from riding in peace... :( |
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Title: Re: Screaming Eagle Pipe = ticket Post by photojoe on 10/20/08 at 13:36:20 Belmar, which is a few towns over from me began enforcing the new mc noise ordinance over the summer. They now have "roving" MC inspections. I've never been stopped, and it seems that the police around here really don't care one way or another. I'll keep riding with a loud pipe. I don't feel that I abuse the noise, and am considerate. Well, to a point anyway. I'll close down the throttle when waiting for a light with a car next to me, and won't rip past a car with little Johnny looking out of an open window. But I'll open up the throttle when going over the 2 lane bridge into Belmar. Had an SUV cut into my (right) lane on that bridge not too long ago. Looked down 150 feet to the water below while being squeezed between the SUV and short cement wall. Don't know if it was my horn or the Trapp that got him to move over. We all have to live with each other's garbage. My loud pipe, and their cigarette butts out of the window and into my face. My loud pipe, and me breathing the smoke coming out of their loud pipe. My loud pipe, and them attempting to push me off of bridge, etc. |
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Title: Re: Screaming Eagle Pipe = ticket Post by Rogue_Cheddar on 10/20/08 at 16:30:48 I'm also from Mass. In Newburyport there was one badge heavy Klingon that was ticketing every biker for excessive noise, I mean everybody that went anywhere near Newburport. Well, enough bikers and clubs bitched and complained so much to the town councilmen, he was removed from that duty. It was obvious he was overstepping the boundaries of common sense. Rise up I say and smite them verily! :D |
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Title: Re: Screaming Eagle Pipe = ticket Post by Rogue_Cheddar on 10/20/08 at 16:49:33 60435A5555330 wrote:
Did anyone else notice the irony of ending a post suggesting a way to keep illiegally loud pipes on a bike with "Ride in peace"? Unfortunately, all the loud pipers on the road keep the rest of us from riding in peace... :( [/quote] Who is to say what is too loud? What is loud noise to some may be music to the ears of others. That's why if a loudness ordinance is to be enforced, it should be measured and not discriminate against a specific segment of the population. Like the sticker on the back of my helmet says, "If it's too loud, you're too old!" I for one am way tired of people telling me what I can or can't do, from what I have to wear, to what I can eat. Too much interference from do-gooders who keep changing the rules to suit the latest trendy fashion. This used to be a fairly free and unfettered country. Now, not so much. |
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Title: Re: Screaming Eagle Pipe = ticket Post by verslagen1 on 10/20/08 at 17:19:42 And where does it stop? I went by a rock climber today. His tires were louder than my trapp. |
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Title: Re: Screaming Eagle Pipe = ticket Post by Mr 650 on 10/24/08 at 15:54:51 Yeah, TN good ol' boys disregard for the presumption of innocence This is a Safety & Security issue. From the Dept of Biker Security: Loud pipes save lives. Hey, how many get run over by unsafe drivers talking on the phone each day???::) More distracted drivers requires LOUDER pipes on our bikes. F 'em better to be a live "outlaw". >:( 3C3E293A3D333E2536315F0 wrote:
That cop draws a govt check & bennies, watching cell phone killers all day long while writing tickets to make you less safe, no skin off their retirement plans: "Durham, N.C. — Police are investigating a fatal accident involving a motorcycle on U.S.-70 West near the Interstate 85 split Saturday afternoon. The accident occurred around 4 p.m. when a motorcycle driven by Jack Rigsbee, 42, of Durham, went out of control while merging onto U.S. 70 East from Interstate 85 North, officials said. The motorcycle crossed the eastbound lanes of U.S. 70 and hit a deep gulley in the median, causing Rigsbee to be thrown from the motorcycle onto the westbound lanes of U.S. 70. Investigators believe Rigsbee may have been struck by a vehicle on U.S. 70 West, but the driver did not stop. Rigsbee, who was wearing a helmet, was pronounced dead at the scene. Investigators are trying to locate the vehicle that may have hit Rigsbee. It is possibly a dark-colored sport-utility vehicle. Investigators said it is possible the driver was unaware of the accident. Huntsville Times Motorcyclist killed in hit and run A motorcyclist stopped at a University Drive traffic signal was killed tonight when a car that witnesses said was traveling at a high rate of speed plowed into the back of the motorcycle... LOUISVILLE, Ky. -- A motorcyclist was killed after an accident in Lyndon.Metro police officers said the motorcyclist collided with a car just before 10 p.m. Wednesday on New Lagrange Road near Lyndon Lane.Investigators said the victim was heading west on New Lagrange when a car pulled out in front of him.The motorcyclist was taken to University Hospital, where he later died."Obviously, it's still a very dangerous situation. I stress again that people need to be aware that motorcyclists are on the road and consider all of the drivers when operating," Louisville Metro Police Department Detective Phil Russell said. "Unfortunately, it looks like a tragic accident."Russell said the motorcyclist was wearing a helmet.Police have not released his name, but investigators said he is in his late 20s... Its pretty sad... I was riding with this guy just the night before.... Basically a car pulled right out in front of him"......................... |
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