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Message started by motokid on 09/12/08 at 07:08:57

Title: Winter preparation
Post by motokid on 09/12/08 at 07:08:57

Hi, one of the steps for the winter preparation is to fill in the oil into the engine, all the way to the neck. Does anybody know how much oil will fit in?

thks,

K

Title: Re: Winter preparation
Post by T Mack 1 on 09/12/08 at 07:28:04

No need for that unless your storing for twenty years.....  Even then the oil would work it's way past the rings (there is a ring gap) after awhile.

Winter prep is more geared around making sure the fuel system doesn't  cuase problems.    And that the battery wil survie.

For the oil, it's ok to change it, run the bike a few minutes to get the clean oil throughout the engine and shut it down.




Title: Re: Winter preparation
Post by Sandy Koocanusa on 09/12/08 at 09:09:21

My winter preparation list:

1)  Buy some warmer gloves/mitts.
2)  Find the Carhart bibs in the upstairs closet.
3)  Make sure life insurance is good for "cryosuicide."


Title: Re: Winter preparation
Post by bill67 on 09/12/08 at 09:23:28

I   put Seafoam in the tank and run it and charge battery every 6 weeks on 2amps over night

Title: Re: Winter preparation
Post by photojoe on 09/12/08 at 09:50:24

I'm with Sandy. Thick sweaters, leather pants, gauntlet gloves jacket & of course, boots. Balaclava, full face helmet, union suit, long johns.

Yes, there will be snow and times that the bike will stay covered. But even on the coldest days I ride, as long as I wear the right clothing.

In my experience, even in my old Sportster days, bikes love running in the cold weather.

Title: Re: Winter preparation
Post by sjaskow on 09/12/08 at 10:51:35

Agree with photojoe and Sandy.  I rode in 30 degree weather last winter with fleece sweat pants over jeans; fleece jacket over my armor and snowmobile gloves.  My biggest issue was the tips of my nose and my ears got really, really cold.  No frostbite but they were uncomfortable for a couple of hours.

Title: Re: Winter preparation
Post by motokid on 09/12/08 at 11:29:05


5B42495B43475F280 wrote:
Agree with photojoe and Sandy.  I rode in 30 degree weather last winter with fleece sweat pants over jeans; fleece jacket over my armor and snowmobile gloves.  My biggest issue was the tips of my nose and my ears got really, really cold.  No frostbite but they were uncomfortable for a couple of hours.


boo, hoo tough guys. Rode in 30 degrees. That's barely freezing. At that temperature, teens around here still wear shorts, t-shirts and flip flops.

And now, anybody actually has an answer?

Title: Re: Winter preparation
Post by T Mack 1 on 09/12/08 at 11:42:36


53514A5155575A3E0 wrote:
[quote author=5B42495B43475F280 link=1221228538/0#5 date=1221241895]Agree with photojoe and Sandy.  I rode in 30 degree weather last winter with fleece sweat pants over jeans; fleece jacket over my armor and snowmobile gloves.  My biggest issue was the tips of my nose and my ears got really, really cold.  No frostbite but they were uncomfortable for a couple of hours.


boo, hoo tough guys. Rode in 30 degrees. That's barely freezing. At that temperature, teens around here still wear shorts, t-shirts and flip flops.

And now, anybody actually has an answer?
[/quote]


I pretty sure that I answered you.....   don't do it.....


My 13 y.o. son wears shorts at 30 too.   Took him for a ride when it was 62 deg F.  He wore blue jeans but said he didn't need any liner in his jacket,  His comment when we got home,  "I think my toes are numb,   I can't feel my knee's.....  complain... complain.... complain....", you know how 13 YO's are....

30 deg F at 55 mph.... (remember science classes??).....  feels like around  -10 degs....     or was it -20  .......   :-?

Title: Re: Winter preparation
Post by verslagen1 on 09/12/08 at 11:51:18


717368737775781C0 wrote:
boo, hoo tough guys. Rode in 30 degrees. That's barely freezing. At that temperature, teens around here still wear shorts, t-shirts and flip flops.

And now, anybody actually has an answer?

Sorry, ask how to servive 120°F heat and I have an answer for you.  But packing a bike full of oil so it can deal with an alaskan winter is something we don't have to do.  Me, I ride all year.

Title: Re: Winter preparation
Post by photojoe on 09/12/08 at 11:52:00

[/quote]boo, hoo tough guys. Rode in 30 degrees. That's barely freezing. At that temperature, teens around here still wear shorts, t-shirts and flip flops. And now, anybody actually has an answer?
[/quote]
Just change the oil/filter as you normally would. Fill the tank with fresh fuel and stabil, ride for 10 minutes. Pull the spark plug and drop a few tablespoons of oil into the cyl. Put a condom on the end of the exaust, pull the battery and store the bike.

Title: Re: Winter preparation
Post by Sandy Koocanusa on 09/12/08 at 16:55:40


3C3E253E3A3835510 wrote:
[quote author=5B42495B43475F280 link=1221228538/0#5 date=1221241895]Agree with photojoe and Sandy.  I rode in 30 degree weather last winter with fleece sweat pants over jeans; fleece jacket over my armor and snowmobile gloves.  My biggest issue was the tips of my nose and my ears got really, really cold.  No frostbite but they were uncomfortable for a couple of hours.


boo, hoo tough guys. Rode in 30 degrees. That's barely freezing. At that temperature, teens around here still wear shorts, t-shirts and flip flops.

And now, anybody actually has an answer?
[/quote]

No.  No one knows.  But if you start seeing oil running down your header pipe, you've overfilled it.

Title: Re: Winter preparation
Post by sluggo on 09/12/08 at 17:02:02

i don't winterize the bike, i winterize me,  i ride year round, even below freezing.  the machine doesnt' know what tempature it is.  :)

Title: Re: Winter preparation
Post by forrest on 09/12/08 at 17:09:48


5C435A4848402F0 wrote:
i don't winterize the bike, i winterize me,  i ride year round, even below freezing.  the machine doesnt' know what tempature it is.  :)


Same here.  The cold is just a new challenge to overcome.

Title: Re: Winter preparation
Post by firetruckredbike on 09/12/08 at 17:19:53

Hi folks.  Has anybody tried the plug-in vest and gloves with the Savage, or is the amperage not adequate?  If not, what are you folks doing for hand warmth.  I am going to ride all winter but am trying to figure out how to keep the hands warm without a lot of bulk.  Thanks, Amy

Title: Re: Winter preparation
Post by YonuhAdisi on 09/12/08 at 17:27:04


5C5548485F494E3A0 wrote:
[quote author=5C435A4848402F0 link=1221228538/0#11 date=1221264122]i don't winterize the bike, i winterize me,  i ride year round, even below freezing.  the machine doesnt' know what tempature it is.  :)


Same here.  The cold is just a new challenge to overcome.
[/quote]

I don't want to start an argument here, but I have always looked at this way. Bikers ride year round, enthusiasts park it when it gets cold.

Title: Re: Winter preparation
Post by YonuhAdisi on 09/12/08 at 17:30:06


4C43584F5E585F4941584F4E4843414F2A0 wrote:
Hi folks.  Has anybody tried the plug-in vest and gloves with the Savage, or is the amperage not adequate?  If not, what are you folks doing for hand warmth.  I am going to ride all winter but am trying to figure out how to keep the hands warm without a lot of bulk.  Thanks, Amy


I don't know about plug in vests and things, but I do have three different thicknesses of gloves. A light pair for normal temperature riding (helps reduce bruises when cages and rigs flick rocks up at you from their tires) A medium weight for just slightly chilly days, and full blown gauntlets for winter. My leather jacket I wear year round. (rather sweat a bit than have a bunch of road rash if I go down.)

Title: Re: Winter preparation
Post by SV og LS on 09/12/08 at 18:30:04


636C7760717770666E776061676C6E60050 wrote:
Hi folks.  Has anybody tried the plug-in vest and gloves with the Savage, or is the amperage not adequate?  If not, what are you folks doing for hand warmth.  I am going to ride all winter but am trying to figure out how to keep the hands warm without a lot of bulk.  Thanks, Amy


I've heated grips in my SV. A Norwegian friend has heated grips plus huge insulated so called Hippo hands. He frequently rides hours in -10 C. They look like this

http://www.allroadtour.fi/barents2003/day2/images/DSCN0182.JPG

Title: Re: Winter preparation
Post by MichaelK on 09/12/08 at 18:53:32

How the heck do you guys deal with snow and ice on the road?  I live in Minnesota, being a new rider this year, I could easily so myself riding around in 20 degree weather, but any ice on the road would prove to be particularily challenging and dangerous to drive over. Not?

Title: Re: Winter preparation
Post by motokid on 09/12/08 at 18:57:47


487E7F64795075786278110 wrote:
I don't want to start an argument here, but I have always looked at this way. Bikers ride year round, enthusiasts park it when it gets cold.


Sorry I was under the impression that I had my location in my avatar. Turns out, I didn't. Where I am right now, Alberta, Canada, what you are describing as a 'winter' we have right now. My question is more geared towards what happens when we hit -40 (and that's same in F and in C). User manual reads to fill the engine until oil gets up the to the filler hole, but they don't say how much it actually is.

So, for being a real biker, I guess there are no such people up here - since I have never seen anybody riding MC here in January. Now, since we are not all that sissies, I do ride a mountain bike at -15C (5F) providing the there's a hard pack on the ground.

anyhow, thanks for the ideas.


K

Title: Re: Winter preparation
Post by bill67 on 09/12/08 at 19:09:51

  Moto you don't put oil up to filler hole,theres a sight window on the the side way down low on right side of bike,It takes about 2 quarts

Title: Re: Winter preparation
Post by Kryhavoc on 09/12/08 at 19:20:13


44465D4642404D290 wrote:
[quote author=487E7F64795075786278110 link=1221228538/0#14 date=1221265624]
I don't want to start an argument here, but I have always looked at this way. Bikers ride year round, enthusiasts park it when it gets cold.


Sorry I was under the impression that I had my location in my avatar. Turns out, I didn't. Where I am right now, Alberta, Canada, what you are describing as a 'winter' we have right now. My question is more geared towards what happens when we hit -40 (and that's same in F and in C). User manual reads to fill the engine until oil gets up the to the filler hole, but they don't say how much it actually is.

So, for being a real biker, I guess there are no such people up here - since I have never seen anybody riding MC here in January. Now, since we are not all that sissies, I do ride a mountain bike at -15C (5F) providing the there's a hard pack on the ground.

anyhow, thanks for the ideas.


K
[/quote]
Now that's a real winter.  I lived in Northern Sweden for a while where we had similar weather.  I never saw anyone riding in January or February there either.  I think, I'd follow the manual's advice  and use gas stabiliser as well.  I'd remove the battery and store it indoors with occasional bouts on a trickle charger.  I'm not sure if you should also drain your carburetor, but it might be advisable.  I've ridden all winter in both the Seattle area and in NY, but it can be pretty cold at times (not really in Seattle).  I took a 200 mile trip in -4C weather (around 25F) and was cold but basically fine without electrical heaters.  I had good gloves and an insulated jump suit with a leather jacket over the top.  I think I'll use gas stabiliser, have a motor oil change and pull my battery this winter, but will probably take a ride or two in winter if it's a nice day where I live in NY. :)

Title: Re: Winter preparation
Post by T Mack 1 on 09/12/08 at 20:28:38

-40    :o  :o  :o

Won't have to worry about any oil.  The chemical reaction that is "rusting" will be so slow....   Plus most of the moisture will be solid state......


As for riding...  stand outside in -40 and that your glove off...   Now think about going 20 MPH,  30 MPH and the wind pushing that temp into every fiber of your snow suit.......  

Would be better to find the better half and snuggle....  more fun too.

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