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Message started by 88pagan on 07/22/08 at 21:23:20

Title: Lost Circlip
Post by 88pagan on 07/22/08 at 21:23:20

Ok so I found the topic where oksavage lost a penny in his oil pan but now I've got another sticky situation. I wish I had read about those dreaded holes a few hours ago! I was doing verslagens no oil loss cam adjuster replacement and everything went very smooth and quick(and I actually loss no oil whatsoever having the bike completely on it's side) BUT..I lost the circlip in that stupid oblong passageway that leads straight to neverland. Now I "think" it went in that hole because it didn't fall out of the case but I'm not positive. So has anyone dealt with this dilema yet? I've ran 2 quarts of clean oil through it and still found/see no circlip. Also, is the circlip obviously big enough to damage something if I can't find it or will it get picked up by a magnet somewhere (I'm assuming there is a magnetic bolt in that case somewhere) ? Thanks for any input. I really hope I don't have to pull the engine into pcs for a .96 cent piece of!!

Title: Re: Lost Circlip
Post by serowbot on 07/22/08 at 21:46:02

The circlip is probably magnetic (hopefully the passage is aluminium),...if you can't get a magnet down there, ....stick the magnet to the back end of a long skinny screwdriver or coathanger, even a heavy guitar string, whatever,... the tip-end will become slightly magnetic. Maybe that will get it. That way you can use a big old speaker magnet or something.
Good luck

Title: Re: Lost Circlip
Post by 88pagan on 07/22/08 at 21:48:44

Ya, I tried a little but I think the magnet wasn't strong enough. Might need to take the night off and mess with it tomorrow. Just don't know what to do if it isn't even in there or if I never find it..pull the case apart or throw it back together...hmm

Title: Re: Lost Circlip
Post by serowbot on 07/22/08 at 21:53:41

If you have an air compressor. blow air down the hole,....or you can buy cans of compressed air from electronics stores...
or try the straw on the end of the vacuum cleaner that worked for o.k.savage..

as you can see...I have a lot of experience doin' stupid things,,,,

Title: Re: Lost Circlip
Post by verslagen1 on 07/22/08 at 22:19:57

I guess going to write up directions...
step 1, immediately after removing the clutch cover, stuff raggs in every orifice that you don't expect to put your lips to. :o
That should keep your beer cans and girl friends safe.

BTW: have spare circlips for just such an occasion.

Title: Re: Lost Circlip
Post by 88pagan on 07/22/08 at 22:59:05

I'll spend some time (hopefully not too much) tomorrow trying to locate that thing in there. Verslagen1, thanks for your help with my situation, I'll ship your part back to you tomorrow. Do I need to order some spare circlips from suzuki or is there a local retailer that sells something that works? Also, in your opinion how bad are things going to be if I can't locate that circlip in there? Thanks again

Title: Re: Lost Circlip
Post by verslagen1 on 07/22/08 at 23:35:26

I got a few in case someone needed them, then of course someone said it was a standard metric part. Just measure the od of the shaft in mm's and you should be able to find a part that matches. measure the ring groove od too so you can measure the part to make sure it matches. Just a standard external retainer ring, an E ring will do in a pinch, but not as secure. let me know if you need one, $1.50 and it's in an envelope on it's way.

Title: Re: Lost Circlip
Post by BurnPgh on 07/23/08 at 00:26:14

NADA auto parts by my house had the right size circlip. I forget what it is but they're like 13 cents a peice. Buy one of each size that is even close and you still wont spend as much as ordering one from suzuki. I wouldnt send the Verslavy back just yet. You'll probably need it eventually and its money well spent.

Title: Re: Lost Circlip
Post by rigidchop on 07/23/08 at 01:28:38

i'm pretty sure it was 8mm. when i replaced my cam chain, i bent mine. went back in and ended up losing the new one i had ordered(after i had already torn it apart) so i put it all back together with the bent one, which was still pretty tight, so its staying. found the new one a couple days later, was still in the little suzuki ziplock bag, had blown across the yard.

Title: Re: Lost Circlip
Post by verslagen1 on 07/23/08 at 09:06:47

2314130F310609610 wrote:

I wouldnt send the Verslavy back just yet. You'll probably need it eventually and its money well spent.

He's talking about a loaner I sent him to use while I upgraded his. It's a seriously over ground and I won't sell it. But decided I could lend it out on a short term basis. There's only one, but it's a big one.

Title: Re: Lost Circlip
Post by 88pagan on 07/23/08 at 11:36:06

I was just going to say that. Thanks for doing that for me, the loaner worked perfectly and kept me riding everyday..now if my clumsy hands didn't drop that little circlip I'd be riding today >:( Great work though Verslagen, impressed by the turnaround time!

Title: Re: Lost Circlip
Post by verslagen1 on 07/23/08 at 17:39:43

You were lucky, I was just wondering what to do with it.

Title: Re: Lost Circlip
Post by 88pagan on 07/24/08 at 01:18:54

Just wanted to update that I found that little guy this morning and got it all back together in time to ride to work. Ended up laying the bike down on it's right side, draining a little bit more of the oil out, then back onto it's left side and draining what else would come out. Searched and searched with a flashlight until I saw the circlip hiding. Fabricated a circlip extracting tool out of a paperclip and waalaa! Verslagen..didn't get a chance to mail the loaner today as I ran out of time but it'll hit the mail tomorrow. Thanks

Title: Re: Lost Circlip
Post by meck on 07/24/08 at 07:34:01

It would still be good to stock up on those odd little metric parts, though. My local ACE Hardware has a decent (not great) selection of metric bolts and fasteners.